Islamophobia has never killed anyone. Muslim hate crimes are by Muslims.

[Spendulus]

Since the only TRUE Muslim is the one who obeys all the dictates of the Islamic basic holy writings, and since those writings include directives to kill and harm others at some times while to be peaceful at other times, she just might have been a TRUE Muslim. She probably attacked them in accordance with strict, Islamic violence directives, and they were simply defending themselves.

You can't believe the media and police and government reports, especially when they are made by weak Islamites who don't follow the violence directives of their holy writings.

Post your propaganda lies somewhere else, mate. Btw, you forgot to put "come to Christianity" line. It's not bad to ask people to follow Christianity but not by spreading lies. After all, lies are forbidden in your religion.

But not in yours, if they suit the purpose of the moment? 

Even so, you won't get many converts saying "Read the Koran" but engaging in wholesale misrepresentation, ducking and dodging difficult issues, and sometimes using untruths for temporary advantage.

[BADecker]

Since the only TRUE Muslim is the one who obeys all the dictates of the Islamic basic holy writings, and since those writings include directives to kill and harm others at some times while to be peaceful at other times, she just might have been a TRUE Muslim. She probably attacked them in accordance with strict, Islamic violence directives, and they were simply defending themselves.

You can't believe the media and police and government reports, especially when they are made by weak Islamites who don't follow the violence directives of their holy writings.

Post your propaganda lies somewhere else, mate. Btw, you forgot to put "come to Christianity" line. It's not bad to ask people to follow Christianity but not by spreading lies. After all, lies are forbidden in your religion.

But not in yours, if they suit the purpose of the moment? 

Even so, you won't get many converts saying "Read the Koran" but engaging in wholesale misrepresentation, ducking and dodging difficult issues, and sometimes using untruths for temporary advantage.

In addition, the Christian converts COME from people reading the Bible or hearing the Bible read. Why? Because it is not the words of mankind that God uses to convert people. It is His own words that He uses, the words of the Bible.

[jaysabi]

there is no such thing as islamophobia

Do you live under a rock or your country doesn't deliver newspapers? Islamophobia is bad, distateful, spread like a cancer and its full of hate.
Its definitely real and you will experience it when you get out of your neighborhood and step into the real world.

Um, what are those?

Also I notice you have not addressed the rebuttal of your prior comment.

She was just an average lady traveling on board. ....



Well, it does not matter if you disagree.
This wasn't an "average lady"....

Since it clearly needs to be asked, in what sense is she not an "average lady?" You've disputed a term without justifying or explaining what you're talking about, then want to know why your throw away comment wasn't addressed? Because there's no substance to address.

Given that Google is everyone's friend these days, is it necessary to spell it all out?  It's already been done earlier in this thread.   Now I have to admit - someone that thinks of "newspapers" as a primary info source might neither look back in the thread or check google.  But that's not you...

Yes, if you're disputing something, the onus is on you to provide the basis for your claim. Making vague statements that could be interpreted any number of ways and then refusing to explain them upon request is to be regarded as an automatic admission you don't have a point.

Not if the issue was already clearly handled earlier in the thread.  This is called "moving forward."  Someone jumps into the conversation mid stream, the record is there for him to get up to speed.  Not my job.

If you had a valid point, it shouldn't be much trouble to reiterate it. However, having since found the original, I see why you wouldn't want to.

[Spendulus]

there is no such thing as islamophobia

Do you live under a rock or your country doesn't deliver newspapers? Islamophobia is bad, distateful, spread like a cancer and its full of hate.
Its definitely real and you will experience it when you get out of your neighborhood and step into the real world.

Um, what are those?

Also I notice you have not addressed the rebuttal of your prior comment.

She was just an average lady traveling on board. ....



Well, it does not matter if you disagree.
This wasn't an "average lady"....

Since it clearly needs to be asked, in what sense is she not an "average lady?" You've disputed a term without justifying or explaining what you're talking about, then want to know why your throw away comment wasn't addressed? Because there's no substance to address.

Given that Google is everyone's friend these days, is it necessary to spell it all out?  It's already been done earlier in this thread.   Now I have to admit - someone that thinks of "newspapers" as a primary info source might neither look back in the thread or check google.  But that's not you...

Yes, if you're disputing something, the onus is on you to provide the basis for your claim. Making vague statements that could be interpreted any number of ways and then refusing to explain them upon request is to be regarded as an automatic admission you don't have a point.

Not if the issue was already clearly handled earlier in the thread.  This is called "moving forward."  Someone jumps into the conversation mid stream, the record is there for him to get up to speed.  Not my job.

If you had a valid point, it shouldn't be much trouble to reiterate it. However, having since found the original, I see why you wouldn't want to.

Thanks.  Yes I can reiterate but I think I'm right on this issue of debating.  It's not a big deal though.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Since the only TRUE Muslim is the one who obeys all the dictates of the Islamic basic holy writings, and since those writings include directives to kill and harm others at some times while to be peaceful at other times, she just might have been a TRUE Muslim. She probably attacked them in accordance with strict, Islamic violence directives, and they were simply defending themselves.

You can't believe the media and police and government reports, especially when they are made by weak Islamites who don't follow the violence directives of their holy writings.

Post your propaganda lies somewhere else, mate. Btw, you forgot to put "come to Christianity" line. It's not bad to ask people to follow Christianity but not by spreading lies. After all, lies are forbidden in your religion.

But not in yours, if they suit the purpose of the moment? 

Even so, you won't get many converts saying "Read the Koran" but engaging in wholesale misrepresentation, ducking and dodging difficult issues, and sometimes using untruths for temporary advantage.

I have not done that. I don't think you will be convinced with my words though.

In addition, the Christian converts COME from people reading the Bible or hearing the Bible read. Why? Because it is not the words of mankind that God uses to convert people. It is His own words that He uses, the words of the Bible.

Many Muslims do accept Islam after reading/listening Qur'an.

FYI: I do believe in old Bible which is not existing(?) now. These days, we can only get new Bible(aka Bible - edited-by-humans) and I do believe in Isa(Jesus) but as a prophet aka messenger of God, not God.