Bitcoin Forum
May 09, 2024, 08:01:17 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: NRA: Gun blogs, videos, web forums threatened by new Obama regulation  (Read 422 times)
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001


minds.com/Wilikon


View Profile
June 08, 2015, 02:54:26 PM
 #1




Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


According to the NRA, that would include blogs and web forums discussing technical details of common guns and ammunition, the type of info gun owners and ammo reloaders trade all the time.

"Gunsmiths, manufacturers, reloaders, and do-it-yourselfers could all find themselves muzzled under the rule and unable to distribute or obtain the information they rely on to conduct these activities," said the NRA in a blog posting.

"This latest regulatory assault, published in the June 3 issue of the Federal Register, is as much an affront to the First Amendment as it is to the Second," warned the NRA's lobbying shop. "Your action is urgently needed to ensure that online blogs, videos, and web forums devoted to the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition do not become subject to prior review by State Department bureaucrats before they can be published," it added.

At issue is the internet. State is updating International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), which implement the federal Arms Export Control Act (AECA). The rules govern everything from guns to strategic bombers.

The NRA said that the rules predate the internet, and now the federal government wants to regulate technical arms discussions on on the internationally available web.

State's proposal is highly technical. It took 14 pages in the Federal Register to explain. But the NRA boiled it down for gun owners with this warning:

"In their current form, the ITAR do not (as a rule) regulate technical data that are in what the regulations call the 'public domain.' Essentially, this means data 'which is published and which is generally accessible or available to the public' through a variety of specified means. These include 'at libraries open to the public or from which the public can obtain documents.' Many have read this provision to include material that is posted on publicly available websites, since most public libraries these days make Internet access available to their patrons.

"The ITAR, however, were originally promulgated in the days before the Internet. Some State Department officials now insist that anything published online in a generally-accessible location has essentially been 'exported,' as it would be accessible to foreign nationals both in the U.S. and overseas.

"With the new proposal published on June 3, the State Department claims to be 'clarifying' the rules concerning 'technical data' posted online or otherwise 'released' into the 'public domain.' To the contrary, however, the proposal would institute a massive new prior restraint on free speech. This is because all such releases would require the 'authorization' of the government before they occurred. The cumbersome and time-consuming process of obtaining such authorizations, moreover, would make online communication about certain technical aspects of firearms and ammunition essentially impossible."


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762


---------------------------------------------------------
0bama's internet...


"In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1715284877
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715284877

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715284877
Reply with quote  #2

1715284877
Report to moderator
muhrohmat
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 252
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 08, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
 #2

id give my opinion without reading the all subject i usually dot read quick and all the avid reading of it but my opinion in guns its that they are not to be pormoted that much in order for nervouse people not to use it and even licenced can become terrorists soo the fat of inabichion of gun promoting i do agre with democrats more than republicans but the rules in europe are more stable tha usa for gun using and thers no much promoting or need to do it in europe that point i do wish amerca goes more acording to europe a active less nervouse community that dont use guns to threat or hurt others lifes the prob do politics in order to lower or hihger the level of agression to wrong ideas and consequent errors.

Spendulus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386



View Profile
June 08, 2015, 09:54:24 PM
 #3

.... Some State Department officials now insist that anything published online in a generally-accessible location has essentially been 'exported,' as it would be accessible to foreign nationals both in the U.S. and overseas.
---------------------------------------------------------
0bama's internet...
Well, that's a dangerous road to go down.

It is correct to view it strictly as a limitation on free speech.
Okurkabinladin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 574
Merit: 506



View Profile
June 08, 2015, 10:15:11 PM
 #4

I am not American, but I thought, that gun legislature in US is regulated by individual States, not by federal body. Can somebody elaborate on current status?
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001


minds.com/Wilikon


View Profile
June 09, 2015, 12:59:29 AM
 #5

id give my opinion without reading the all subject i usually dot read quick and all the avid reading of it but my opinion in guns its that they are not to be pormoted that much in order for nervouse people not to use it and even licenced can become terrorists soo the fat of inabichion of gun promoting i do agre with democrats more than republicans but the rules in europe are more stable tha usa for gun using and thers no much promoting or need to do it in europe that point i do wish amerca goes more acording to europe a active less nervouse community that dont use guns to threat or hurt others lifes the prob do politics in order to lower or hihger the level of agression to wrong ideas and consequent errors.






Spendulus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386



View Profile
June 09, 2015, 01:45:14 AM
 #6

id give my opinion without reading the all subject i usually dot read quick and all the avid reading of it but my opinion in guns its that they are not to be pormoted that much in order for nervouse people not to use it and even licenced can become terrorists soo the fat of inabichion of gun promoting i do agre with democrats more than republicans but the rules in europe are more stable tha usa for gun using and thers no much promoting or need to do it in europe that point i do wish amerca goes more acording to europe a active less nervouse community that dont use guns to threat or hurt others lifes the prob do politics in order to lower or hihger the level of agression to wrong ideas and consequent errors.







I do get the impression that there's quite a few really smart people around here relying on google translate or similar products.
Crenel84
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 50
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
June 09, 2015, 01:59:01 AM
 #7

I do get the impression that there's quite a few really smart people around here relying on google translate or similar products.

Pretty sure Google Translate and other products know how to spell "America" and "promoted" and "than" and....

OTOH, I can't speak any non-English language well enough to converse in a forum where it is used by native speakers, so I won't knock those who may struggle to participate in English when it's not their first language. Oh, for the mutual meeting ground dream of Esperanto.

I am not American, but I thought, that gun legislature in US is regulated by individual States, not by federal body. Can somebody elaborate on current status?

At the federal level, the highest law in the land states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Considering what is done to limit arms ownership and carry at the federal and state level via lower laws, apparently "shall not be infringed" is actually in a foreign language that means the exact opposite of English.
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001


minds.com/Wilikon


View Profile
June 09, 2015, 03:50:14 AM
 #8

id give my opinion without reading the all subject i usually dot read quick and all the avid reading of it but my opinion in guns its that they are not to be pormoted that much in order for nervouse people not to use it and even licenced can become terrorists soo the fat of inabichion of gun promoting i do agre with democrats more than republicans but the rules in europe are more stable tha usa for gun using and thers no much promoting or need to do it in europe that point i do wish amerca goes more acording to europe a active less nervouse community that dont use guns to threat or hurt others lifes the prob do politics in order to lower or hihger the level of agression to wrong ideas and consequent errors.







I do get the impression that there's quite a few really smart people around here relying on google translate or similar products.


I agree. Maybe some are afraid to use google translate? What if everything you copy paste into the translator is cached forever with your IP address?

It is hard for me to read something and feel I am gasping for air after a while...

 Cheesy



Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!