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January 17, 2016, 06:09:56 AM
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This is the best fan,  better than ultra kazes...

http://www.enermax.co.uk/fans/twisterstorm/


up to 154.53 cfm at 38 decibels ...  3500 rpm

stop spamming old threads with your company's link for fans

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January 19, 2016, 10:17:42 PM
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This is the best fan,  better than ultra kazes...

http://www.enermax.co.uk/fans/twisterstorm/


up to 154.53 cfm at 38 decibels ...  3500 rpm

stop spamming old threads with your company's link for fans

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February 06, 2016, 02:54:17 AM
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I added the heat sinks that Vorta linked to earlier - and as Tony the Tiger would say, "They're Great!"

I used Arctic thermal adhesive - not thermal paste:

http://[Suspicious link removed]/1dYPRyw

I figured that I would leave them on either way, so might as well stick them on for good... The adhesive is the two part kind, so a bit of a pain but nothing major.  I cleaned the surface first with Isopropyl alcohol - I prefer these wipes because the wipe doesn't leave any fibers, it's 99%, and they don't skimp on the alcohol:

http://[Suspicious link removed]/1Gh8xRH

I applied the adhesive to the base of the heat sink, and then just stuck it to the miner - you don't need a thick layer of the stuff, just enough to cover the bottom, so I imagine the thermal paste kit above would be enough to do two miners (or at least that's what I would probably be able to manage).  Here's what they look like:

http://www.analogx.com/images/laserS5v1/dscf3180s.jpg

So I have a bit less envy about those lucky enough to get factory ones.  I would point out that it took me about 30 minutes to apply them all, so not super long, but not fast either.

As I mentioned above, I'm running these miners in what would best be described as a 'harsh' environment - so it was hot when I test it.  This particular miner runs typically about 73/73 - this is with the case mod and the Kaze fan in pull configuration.  I got it up and running again and let it roll for about an hour, then checked how the temps were doing, and it was a solid 67/66, so about 6c decrease in temp - of course that's just what the internal sensor says, let's take a look at what Mr Flir has to say:

http://www.analogx.com/images/laserS5v1/flir0019.jpg

They're definitely running hot, but if you look at the surrounding areas, they're running much cooler, so they definitely seem to be pulling heat from the board.  I would guess that the impact on a case without the airflow being as controlled as mine may not be as dramatic - but with mine I'm forcing air over the sides somewhat evenly, so probably a more pronounced effect.

Either way, if you've wondered if and how much of an effect heat sinks on that side can make, now you know.  I would classify the ones I got as somewhere inbetween the nice ones that Bitmain put on some of there, and definitely better than those small silver ones most people put on them.

Vorta or MarkAz, did any of the miners that you purchased have a hashing board v.1.3 that have different heatsink pads than the later version say 1.7 that MarkAz had pictured? The reason that I ask is I purchased some of the heatsinks you have both tried out and I am not sure how or if it is recommended to attach heatsinks on the 1.3 boards based on the configuration.  Here are pictures of the 1.3 version board.

www.personaljohn.com/images/IMG_7058.JPG

www.personaljohn.com/images/IMG_7055.JPG

Any Suggestions?
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February 06, 2016, 06:11:12 AM
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Vorta or MarkAz, did any of the miners that you purchased have a hashing board v.1.3 that have different heatsink pads than the later version say 1.7 that MarkAz had pictured? The reason that I ask is I purchased some of the heatsinks you have both tried out and I am not sure how or if it is recommended to attach heatsinks on the 1.3 boards based on the configuration.  Here are pictures of the 1.3 version board.

www.personaljohn.com/images/IMG_7058.JPG

www.personaljohn.com/images/IMG_7055.JPG

Any Suggestions?

Uhg, yeah, I had some of those earlier S5's that were that configuration, and you're right, the heatsink we were using don't work on those pads.  I actually found some head sinks that were small enough, about 1/3rd the size of the ones I used, just small enough to fit inside the copper region.  Overall I didn't notice enough of a difference to do it for more than the two I had originally bought parts for - the acrylic enclosure made way more of a difference than anything else.  So unfortunately for that particular one, I don't think there's much to do.

Sorry no better news - maybe Vorta found a better solution than I did...
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February 06, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
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These heatsinks are pretty good. They use the high quality Sony T4000 thermal tape, so you don't need an extra cost for thermal grease/paste/tape.

I'm using thermal adhesive, as I don't really see much of a reason to ever remove them - get them done right once and not have to worry about them falling off.

As far as those, I've purchased some in the past, but as you pointed out the ones you linked to have much better thermal tape (the ones I got had crap tape, next to useless).  One of the used miners I bought actually had those applied with presumably thermal adhesive as well, although whoever did it installed them perpendicular to airflow, which sucks.  This particular unit doesn't perform as well as the other heatsinks mentioned, but it's hard to say how much off it is because of the wonky orientation. 

All things being equal, if I'm going to spend the time to mount these on a machine, I'm going to use the best heat sink I can lay my hands on.  I really like the ones that Bitmain put on the rare few machines (I have two), but I think those long finned ones are the next best thing - I can't really see much of a difference between my machines with them vs the Bitmain ones, but I haven't done really extensive testing yet.

Here's a shot of my test setup prior to mounting all the heat sinks, and I think I still had one or two with the stock case - now they're all running my custom case + kaze fan + spacer + heat sinks - so nothing else I can really think of to keep them cool mod-wise.

http://www.analogx.com/images/lasers5v1/DSCF3186s.jpg


MarkAz,  what is your power setup that you are running?  Any idea why the price of miners has dropped so much?  I am seeing S5's for $260 and S7's for $1,155?
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February 06, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
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MarkAz,  what is your power setup that you are running?  Any idea why the price of miners has dropped so much?  I am seeing S5's for $260 and S7's for $1,155?

For power I'm running either DPS-2000BB's or the IBM 2880W PSU's, both are server power supplies that require you to also get a breakout board, but there's several forum members who sell those plus high quality PCIe cables - and you get WAY more PSU for the dollar than PC power supplies.  One thing I don't ever skimp on is buying power gear - you can use it from generation to generation of machine, making it a good investment, and you can pretty much resell them from what you paid, as they've already really been depreciated when we buy them (as all miners are buying the PSU's used).

As far as pricing, that's easy - miner prices are typically influenced by a combination of the price of bitcoin, the current network difficult, and the power efficiency of the miner.  In your above price example, the S7 is roughly 4x the price, but 4x the hashpower - so you might think those prices are close, but the reality is they aren't.  The S7 is almost 2x the efficiency, so your power cost will be 1/2 of what it would be if you had the same hashpower in S5's.  So, depending on your power prices, you may not even be able to mine an S5 profitably, which is why the price has dropped.

On the difficulty side, hash power has been on a rampage, and the total network hashrate has more than doubled since October, which is pretty amazing:

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Less thrilling is that means you'd be making 1/2 as much as you were back in October with the same machine.  Wink

Generally speaking, you're almost always better off going with current gen hardware, although sometimes you might find special situations where it makes sense to get something one gen back (like an S5).
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February 06, 2016, 07:35:30 PM
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MarkAz do you do any or are you considering doing any solo mining?  Do you mine any other currencies?
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February 06, 2016, 07:43:06 PM
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so if i box in the s1's i have i will get better temperatures cause of there open box design ? i thought about doing this a while ago till i seen this from you btw very cool with the plexi

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February 07, 2016, 05:41:36 AM
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Bitmain has reduced the price of the latest batch S7 miner. The Batch 10 S7 is priced at 2.1 BTC, which is less than $800. The biggest drawback is that you won't get it until roughly February 20th at the earliest. Chinese Spring festival, so Bitmain is on "vacation" until that's over. That will also push down the price of a used S5 as well. See:

https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160129054250700R0OMI3KI061A
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