NEM's unfair distribution and failure

[TaunSew]

All the pro-NEM posts in this thread and throughout this entire forum are coming from hundreds of UtopianFuture sock-puppet accounts. NEM is a failed scam, it's only going to keep falling lower and lower.

am I a sock puppet?

It's spelt nEm and besides it's an outed scam!!

So it's been almost 1 year of this hysterical sock accusation (negative claims / shifting burdens of proof are logical fallacies) and NEM is still within its' historic 20,000 to 50,000 NXT NEMstake range in 2014.  If Facebook is any indication, when people do learn about XEM they do take a look at it and adopt it (like the time they were mentioning NEM on the Liberland facebook).  Problem is peanut adoption (1 person at a time) will only result in peanut capitalization.



As for breaking that historical price range, I don't think the NEM mobile client will be the killer plugin / update (could be wrong of course but I thought we already had several mobile clients in crypto).   But I can say the same for NXT right now, I don't see any killer plugins / updates that will break NXT from its' own stagnation.

It seems like the future of NEM is based on subsequent updates and/or especially networking..  not much different from other promising alternates..

[patmast3r]

All the pro-NEM posts in this thread and throughout this entire forum are coming from hundreds of UtopianFuture sock-puppet accounts. NEM is a failed scam, it's only going to keep falling lower and lower.

am I a sock puppet?

If NEM had been a scam it would have been very sucessfull. Just saying...

[noelmal]

All the pro-NEM posts in this thread and throughout this entire forum are coming from hundreds of UtopianFuture sock-puppet accounts. NEM is a failed scam, it's only going to keep falling lower and lower.

am I a sock puppet?

If NEM had been a scam it would have been very sucessfull. Just saying...

Plenty claim its a scam few claim its a successful scam  

BTW how do I claim a stake?

[I am the guy]

So much FUD. NEM is going places 

[OBAViJEST]

I'm not for or against any coins, let alone this one.

Saying that, what's with all the hate here (besides OP's complaint)?

Why do people circles jerked like this, it's not like whatever coin they're holding will benefit from it. I just don't understand...someone explain! Again, I'm not talking about just NEM hate, but similar behavior seen in other con's discussion threads as well

[Nxtblg]

I'm not for or against any coins, let alone this one.

Saying that, what's with all the hate here (besides OP's complaint)?

Why do people circles jerked like this, it's not like whatever coin they're holding will benefit from it. I just don't understand...someone explain! Again, I'm not talking about just NEM hate, but similar behavior seen in other con's discussion threads as well

Bitterness, cynicism, jealousy, boredom

[Chris001]

All the pro-NEM posts in this thread and throughout this entire forum are coming from hundreds of UtopianFuture sock-puppet accounts. NEM is a failed scam, it's only going to keep falling lower and lower.

All I can say to that is....... you're a GOOF!! Lol
NEM is doing well, and only going up.

Utopian is NOT controlling 100s of people.
Really? Come on, man! Ha ha ha

Makoto has been traveling Japan making presentations about NEM. How many coins have devs that serious about mass adoption? So chill, no need to spread FUD.

Most coins that are NEMs age have come and gone, and NEM is just getting started. Instead of acting like a GOOF, you should figure out a way to get as much XEM as possible, if you trying to make gains that is. By your comment. I'd venture to guess that you don't make much profit. This is your chance to change that lol.

And btw, I'm waiting for mine, too. They are getting sent this week, so that's not too long to wait.

[Kuttingcorners]

i put in ten bux and got a grand ill sign up for the next nem scam please

[Agestorzrxx]

NEM was doomed at the begin when UtopianFuture was discovered own lots of sock puppet.  And it's hardly success. When i recieved my stake token, i sell it as soon as possible. And i keep away from it.

[KennyTheMartian]

I was like top 100 contributor with NXT to their fundraising and I never got my share because I sent from exchange instead of a wallet. 

[patmast3r]

I was like top 100 contributor with NXT to their fundraising and I never got my share because I sent from exchange instead of a wallet. 

That couldn't have been all there was to it. There were plenty of people that sent from exchanges (eventhough it was clearly stated not to) and they did get their stake.

Also what is the top 100 contributor thing about ?

[TaunSew]

NEM was doomed at the begin when UtopianFuture was discovered own lots of sock puppet.  And it's hardly success. When i recieved my stake token, i sell it as soon as possible. And i keep away from it.

Proof?  Evidence?  Do you have it?

Shifting the burden of proof (negative claim) is a logical fallacy and not valid under dialetics used by the professional world.  If you stormed into a courtroom and said someone was a murderer, and you had no proof and claim it's the defendent's responsibility to prove his own innocence, the Judge would laugh you out the room.

It's been a year and I have yet to see anyone, in the meantime, produce a list of "lots of sockpuppets" that allegedly belong to UtopianFuture.  All we know is Ghosthouse.  

Waiting to see anyone, only been waiting a year, to produce a list of names and evidence to go along with.  If you really want to kill NEM then there is your chance.  Most of the team is around is due to faith that the distribution was not (fatally) compromised.  If you can submit evidence of say UF owning 100 socks, and names and good reasons why you think it is UF, many would leave tomorrow.

Seems like it's just baseless FUD started by NXTers  who saw their baby at risk.  Need I point out NXTers also regularly attack Bitshares and other coins.

NXT = 4chan of crypto.  Bunch of childish losers who troll at everything and try to suck up to their millionaire whales, thinking they'll get money from them, but I can guarantee that most have received nothing and never will.

[Daedelus]

I see from this and your other posts you have lapsed back into your old rut. Especially amusing to see you talk about burden of proof with your history   Great to have you back UP !  

NEM was doomed at the begin when UtopianFuture was discovered own lots of sock puppet.  And it's hardly success. When i recieved my stake token, i sell it as soon as possible. And i keep away from it.

Proof?  Evidence?  Do you have it?

Shifting the burden of proof (negative claim) is a logical fallacy and not valid under dialetics used by the professional world.  If you stormed into a courtroom and said someone was a murderer, and you had no proof and claim it's the defendent's responsibility to prove his own innocence, the Judge would laugh you out the room.

It's been a year and I have yet to see anyone, in the meantime, produce a list of "lots of sockpuppets" that allegedly belong to UtopianFuture.  All we know is Ghosthouse.  

Waiting to see anyone, only been waiting a year, to produce a list of names and evidence to go along with.  If you really want to kill NEM then there is your chance.  Most of the team is around is due to faith that the distribution was not (fatally) compromised.  If you can submit evidence of say UF owning 100 socks, and names and good reasons why you think it is UF, many would leave tomorrow.

Seems like it's just baseless FUD started by NXTers  who saw their baby at risk.  Need I point out NXTers also regularly attack Bitshares and other coins.

NXT = 4chan of crypto.  Bunch of childish losers who troll at everything and try to suck up to their millionaire whales, thinking they'll get money from them, but I can guarantee that most have received nothing and never will.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

TLDR: Me and my colleagues were labeled as sockpuppet and we did not even get 1 stake...

I didn't read past this.  What are you, like 13 years old?

[nutildah]

Woo!

NEM getting hate threads.

That means they are doing something right!

Stay on target, Lads...

[Nxtblg]

Woo!

NEM getting hate threads.

That means they are doing something right!

Well, if that's your metric...

...enn-ex-tee...

[nutildah]

Woo!

NEM getting hate threads.

That means they are doing something right!

Well, if that's your metric...

...enn-ex-tee...

I do also like NXT... The first time I heard about the concept of the Asset Exchange I was blown away.

In theory, you can trade anything for anything, so long as it can be represented in the form of a token, and the token distributor honors their agreement to provide whatever it is that the token represents in exchange for the token.

NEM has a while to go before it catches up to NXT in terms of what it can actually do. But the fact that people are starting to get bent out of shape about it means they are gaining traction. Just like with NXT.

[Nxtblg]

I do also like NXT... The first time I heard about the concept of the Asset Exchange I was blown away.

In theory, you can trade anything for anything, so long as it can be represented in the form of a token, and the token distributor honors their agreement to provide whatever it is that the token represents in exchange for the token.

NEM has a while to go before it catches up to NXT in terms of what it can actually do. But the fact that people are starting to get bent out of shape about it means they are gaining traction. Just like with NXT.

Yes, you're right. I'll be fascinating to watch NEM grow.

[Spoetnik]

Woo!

NEM getting hate threads.

That means they are doing something right!

Well, if that's your metric...

...enn-ex-tee...

I do also like NXT... The first time I heard about the concept of the Asset Exchange I was blown away.

In theory, you can trade anything for anything, so long as it can be represented in the form of a token, and the token distributor honors their agreement to provide whatever it is that the token represents in exchange for the token.

NEM has a while to go before it catches up to NXT in terms of what it can actually do. But the fact that people are starting to get bent out of shape about it means they are gaining traction. Just like with NXT.

that concept concerns me..

I was just trying to explain to a stranger (a guy 30 yrs old) what I did to make money with Bitcoin / Alt's etc.
All he had heard was that the Bitcoin thing was for ordering hits on people and buying drugs and guns.
and to him that sounded like a bad thing (in case I had to point that out)
get it yet guys ?

Your skipping over the whole explaining what and why this crap is and there by gaining mass adoption.
I keep telling you focusing your efforts on Bitcointalk forum guys here is dumb and shorted sighted.. and utterly doomed to failure.

an, Asset Exchange would set off alarm bells for many people out there for obvious reasons.
and I hope your all smart enough to see why and I don't have to spell it out LOL

[Chris001]

I just think that the distribution wasn't perfect, but it pretty much did what it set out to do overall. The little guy was able to participate. This is great!

Comparing to Nxt (and I love Nxt) I think it did better.

Comparing to other crypto I think it stacks up well in terms of health of the coin.


It has robust security features (actually quite impressive if you learn about it), innovative ideas that actually get done as promised everytime, and the mobile app in testing (which has multisig)

The list goes on.