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[AndyRossy]

Interest paid (1 day early -as very busy tomorrow)

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[AndyRossy]

Bumpity bump bump still got space for 35BTC.

[AndyRossy]

Updated trust info.  Still happy to hold another 35BTC.

[Micon]

Updated trust info.  Still happy to hold another 35BTC.

give it up dude.  The well is dry.  You are a year too late. 

[Shadow383]

Updated trust info.  Still happy to hold another 35BTC.

give it up dude.  The well is dry.  You are a year too late. 

Have you apologised to vescudero yet?

[AndyRossy]

Updated trust info.  Still happy to hold another 35BTC.

give it up dude.  The well is dry.  You are a year too late. 

Not quite sure.... if people listen.... to bad poker player.... giving investment advice.... calling any lending/saving a "ponzi". 

[Micon]

Updated trust info.  Still happy to hold another 35BTC.

give it up dude.  The well is dry.  You are a year too late. 

Not quite sure.... if people listen.... to bad poker player.... giving investment advice.... calling any lending/saving a "ponzi". 

you are not lending-saving.

you are borrowing at high interest rates all that you can.

And everyone not only already knows it, but you are shamelessly bumping after no one bites at this latest version of a 100+ year old scam.  Give it up dude.  Also bring up poker more - that someone legitimizes your scam. 

[Shadow383]

you are not lending-saving.

you are borrowing at high interest rates all that you can.

And everyone not only already knows it, but you are shamelessly bumping after no one bites at this latest version of a 100+ year old scam.  Give it up dude.  Also bring up poker more - that someone legitimizes your scam. 

"All that you can" = 60BTC maximum?

Hell, if my coin wasn't all already tied up in other things I'd lend to Andy - we've done business in the past (as have a lot of others) and I don't doubt his ability to pay back what amounts to a very small loan.

Have you apologised to vescudero yet?

[Micon]

you are not lending-saving.

you are borrowing at high interest rates all that you can.

And everyone not only already knows it, but you are shamelessly bumping after no one bites at this latest version of a 100+ year old scam.  Give it up dude.  Also bring up poker more - that someone legitimizes your scam. 

"All that you can" = 60BTC maximum?

Hell, if my coin wasn't all already tied up in other things I'd lend to Andy - we've done business in the past (as have a lot of others) and I don't doubt his ability to pay back what amounts to a very small loan.

Have you apologised to vescudero yet?

I believe you are free to waste your coins on any scam you choose.

vescudero will scam this community.  He paid back less than you think to scam more later.  It's plain to see.  Did u defend Pirate too Shadow?  let me check the post history...

[Shadow383]

you are not lending-saving.

you are borrowing at high interest rates all that you can.

And everyone not only already knows it, but you are shamelessly bumping after no one bites at this latest version of a 100+ year old scam.  Give it up dude.  Also bring up poker more - that someone legitimizes your scam.  

"All that you can" = 60BTC maximum?

Hell, if my coin wasn't all already tied up in other things I'd lend to Andy - we've done business in the past (as have a lot of others) and I don't doubt his ability to pay back what amounts to a very small loan.

Have you apologised to vescudero yet?

I believe you are free to waste your coins on any scam you choose.

vescudero will scam this community.  He paid back less than you think to scam more later.  It's plain to see.  Did u defend Pirate too Shadow?  let me check the post history...

Look. The guy does a lot of trade on here and elsewhere.
Pirate's interest bill was ~$75000 per day at peak, that was clearly absolutely insane, and I was one of the ones doing proper analysis of that and posting logically why it was clearly a scam while you were making a scene.

AndyRossy's interest bill is currently ~0.0535 BTC/day. That'll rise to a mindblowing 0.0918BTC/day if he gets the full amount of the deposit filled.
Frankly, I don't have trouble believing that anyone who trades in the bitcoin economy would have too much trouble servicing that.

As for vescudero, what do you have to suggest that he'll scam? Let's judge his actions as he makes them. If he creates another deposit scheme somewhere down the line let's judge that logically then.

[AndyRossy]

I think my mining alone covers this ~.~ 

[Shadow383]

I think my mining alone covers this ~.~ 

Heh, mining with 1 5830 would more than cover that 

[AndyRossy]

Interest sent!

[Vandroiy]

I think my mining alone covers this ~.~  

Heh, mining with 1 5830 would more than cover that  

That's just the point.

"Sky Deposits" showing up with an availability counter and no set run-time, but a list of previous trades, talking about forced withdrawals etc., and then 60 BTC? Long-term? Implying it could be more later? The business model... is undisclosed? But has muddy talk about a wild mixture of generic things, including speculation by involving GBP exchange. But risk is low, because it says so!

His OTC ratings are by gigavps (rated Pirateat40 +10), PatrickHarnett (Throws lots of As at just about anyone's credit rating) and this vescurado guy you're apparently discussing.

And best of all, "Sky Deposits" is supposed to run for months, but you can withdraw everything on two days notice! Whoo.

If Micon is wrong on this one, I still see no reason to blame him. It's been said often and becomes no less wrong: in lending, suspect a scam until there is evidence for legitimacy. Not the other way around, especially not if the thing already looks suspicious.

[Shadow383]

I think my mining alone covers this ~.~  

Heh, mining with 1 5830 would more than cover that  

That's just the point.

"Sky Deposits" showing up with an availability counter and no set run-time, but a list of previous trades, talking about forced withdrawals etc., and then 60 BTC? Long-term? Implying it could be more later? The business model... is undisclosed? But has muddy talk about a wild mixture of generic things, including speculation by involving GBP exchange. But risk is low, because it says so!

His OTC ratings are by gigavps (rated Pirateat40 +10), PatrickHarnett (Throws lots of As at just about anyone's credit rating) and this vescurado guy you're apparently discussing.

And best of all, "Sky Deposits" is supposed to run for months, but you can withdraw everything on two days notice! Whoo.

If Micon is wrong on this one, I still see no reason to blame him. It's been said often and becomes no less wrong: in lending, suspect a scam until there is evidence for legitimacy. Not the other way around, especially not if the thing already looks suspicious.

Things I know about Andy:

-He does a lot of GBP/BTC transfers and charges fees which are fairly considerable, certainly enough so that they'll provide reasonable income.
-He's been experimenting with setting up a pool, which was very good when I tried it - you can see the details of the hashrate he bought from me on page 1.
-He has mining gear of his own, which would be more than sufficient to pay the interest on this debt.

At the end of the day, there aren't many ways to get BTC with GBP at the moment, so if he needs BTC liquidity to be able to offer that service it's worth his while borrowing at these rates.

It could turn out to be a scam, but given the sums involved and the fact that a number of users here have his bank details and such, it'd seem fairly unlikely.

[AndyRossy]

I think my mining alone covers this ~.~  

Heh, mining with 1 5830 would more than cover that  

That's just the point.

"Sky Deposits" showing up with an availability counter and no set run-time, but a list of previous trades, talking about forced withdrawals etc., and then 60 BTC? Long-term? Implying it could be more later? The business model... is undisclosed? But has muddy talk about a wild mixture of generic things, including speculation by involving GBP exchange. But risk is low, because it says so!

His OTC ratings are by gigavps (rated Pirateat40 +10), PatrickHarnett (Throws lots of As at just about anyone's credit rating) and this vescurado guy you're apparently discussing.

And best of all, "Sky Deposits" is supposed to run for months, but you can withdraw everything on two days notice! Whoo.

If Micon is wrong on this one, I still see no reason to blame him. It's been said often and becomes no less wrong: in lending, suspect a scam until there is evidence for legitimacy. Not the other way around, especially not if the thing already looks suspicious.

As stated above, my income, from my mining, alone more than covers the exposure im getting here; aside from my other routes of cash flow (not just GBP/BTC xfers btw). Unlike ponzis, I have a capacity, and im actually actively lowering it. But, each to their own free opinion - at the end of the day, im effectively lending money from the community, my aim is to reduce this to, in the long term, reduce this to zero.  This is not a long term-investment scheme at X%/week, and the more the merrier. 

[AndyRossy]

Updated Op.

[Raoul Duke]

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Andy, post a deposit address here, signed with your OTC key.
I'll cover those 30 BTC.

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[AndyRossy]

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Andy, post a deposit address here, signed with your OTC key.
I'll cover those 30 BTC.

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Hey

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Andy

[Raoul Duke]

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