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June 14, 2015, 03:17:05 PM
Last edit: June 14, 2015, 03:32:02 PM by BTCBLOGGER
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Marcotheminer himself making more than one post where one post is sufficient.
I saw he got 3 loan request when he saw those three requests he quoted each request and Sorry denied,
Denied, sorry but denied.
Awesome guy made a signature bot to scam bit-x.

That isn't relevant to this thread. Report the posts if you feel they're breaking the rules. Double/triple posts would normally be removed if they should/could be made in just one.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1087206.msg11614681#msg11614681
I will not report it decreases my prediction accuracy as he is a trusted member.
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June 14, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
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by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

Yes. They're cheating money out from a signature campaign which is dishonest.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Spamming. Half of the posts are just crap in the giveaways threads and the others aren't up to much.

Giveaways claims are not spam. Or half of the forum should be banned, including the members that create giveaway threads. If they were spam per se, the forum would have already banned all kings of giveaways, like they did with altcoin giveaways. It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.
(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least. I think a neutral feedback would be more suitable, that way everyone would know about what I did, including signature campaign managers. Even users that scammed for many BTC or defaulted big loans got their trust back to neutral when they repaired the damage they did.
(but of course my opinion is biased)
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June 14, 2015, 03:30:30 PM
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by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

Yes. They're cheating money out from a signature campaign which is dishonest.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Spamming. Half of the posts are just crap in the giveaways threads and the others aren't up to much.

Giveaways claims are not spam. Or half of the forum should be banned, including the members that create giveaway threads. If they were spam per se, the forum would have already banned all kings of giveaways, like they did with altcoin giveaways. It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.
(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least. I think a neutral feedback would be more suitable, that way everyone would know about what I did, including signature campaign managers. Even users that scammed for many BTC or defaulted big loans got their trust back to neutral when they repaired the damage they did.
(but of course my opinion is biased)
But, is it fair if you joining a giveaway with more than 1 account?

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June 14, 2015, 03:32:18 PM
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by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

Yes. They're cheating money out from a signature campaign which is dishonest.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Spamming. Half of the posts are just crap in the giveaways threads and the others aren't up to much.

Giveaways claims are not spam. Or half of the forum should be banned, including the members that create giveaway threads. If they were spam per se, the forum would have already banned all kings of giveaways, like they did with altcoin giveaways. It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.
(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least. I think a neutral feedback would be more suitable, that way everyone would know about what I did, including signature campaign managers. Even users that scammed for many BTC or defaulted big loans got their trust back to neutral when they repaired the damage they did.
(but of course my opinion is biased)
Well the only reason why you are returning the money is because you were caught. Are all of these accounts yours? Do you have any others?
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June 14, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
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by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

Yes. They're cheating money out from a signature campaign which is dishonest.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Spamming. Half of the posts are just crap in the giveaways threads and the others aren't up to much.

Giveaways claims are not spam. Or half of the forum should be banned, including the members that create giveaway threads. If they were spam per se, the forum would have already banned all kings of giveaways, like they did with altcoin giveaways. It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.
(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least. I think a neutral feedback would be more suitable, that way everyone would know about what I did, including signature campaign managers. Even users that scammed for many BTC or defaulted big loans got their trust back to neutral when they repaired the damage they did.
(but of course my opinion is biased)
Well the only reason why you are returning the money is because you were caught. Are all of these accounts yours? Do you have any others?

MalinKeshar is an alt of me.

And Vod used to remove their preventive negative trusts about people asking for loans after some time. One might say that the only reason they haven't scammed is because they get caught even before they could do something
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June 14, 2015, 03:42:23 PM
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Giveaways claims are not spam.

That's arguable. When your only existence here is to largely claim giveaways (and cheat them) it's spam in my eyes but I'm not going to get into a discussion about what is and isn't spam and whether you are banned or not is up to the admins.

It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.

This is irrelevant, still doesn't make it ok to cheat them by padding your character count.

(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

On this account, but the others are worse but the numbers are besides the point.

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

Not interested in soccer? You should read my posts more, but again, irrelevant and this isn't about me but you.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least.

And I said I would take that into consideration but I'm not promising anything. You still tried to cheat and would have continued to do so had you not been caught.

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June 14, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
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Giveaways claims are not spam.

That's arguable. When your only existence here is to largely claim giveaways (and cheat them) it's spam in my eyes but I'm not going to get into a discussion about what is and isn't spam and whether you are banned or not is up to the admins.

It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.

This is irrelevant, still doesn't make it ok to cheat them by padding your character count.

(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

On this account, but the others are worse but the numbers are besides the point.

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

Not interested in soccer? You should read my posts more, but again, irrelevant and this isn't about me but you.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least.

And I said I would take that into consideration but I'm not promising anything. You still tried to cheat and would have continued to do so had you not been caught.

My life is not even close of being only claiming giveaways.

My game and round count with this account: 49
My post count with this account: 1708 posts

And (lithium) has 32 game and rounds posts, from 281 he ever made.

I can't let it pass because you are s highly trusted member here and your opinions have much value in the administration's eyes, and you are trying to give the impression I'm only here to post in giveaways threads and do insubstantial posts, what is a lie. Even while in the  coinomat campaign, the majority of my posts haven't been made in game and rounds threads and with no aid of small extra characters.

And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.





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June 14, 2015, 04:09:34 PM
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by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

Yes. They're cheating money out from a signature campaign which is dishonest.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Spamming. Half of the posts are just crap in the giveaways threads and the others aren't up to much.

Giveaways claims are not spam. Or half of the forum should be banned, including the members that create giveaway threads. If they were spam per se, the forum would have already banned all kings of giveaways, like they did with altcoin giveaways. It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.
(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least. I think a neutral feedback would be more suitable, that way everyone would know about what I did, including signature campaign managers. Even users that scammed for many BTC or defaulted big loans got their trust back to neutral when they repaired the damage they did.
(but of course my opinion is biased)
Well the only reason why you are returning the money is because you were caught. Are all of these accounts yours? Do you have any others?

MalinKeshar is an alt of me.

And Vod used to remove their preventive negative trusts about people asking for loans after some time. One might say that the only reason they haven't scammed is because they get caught even before they could do something

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June 14, 2015, 04:13:47 PM
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Giveaways claims are not spam.

That's arguable. When your only existence here is to largely claim giveaways (and cheat them) it's spam in my eyes but I'm not going to get into a discussion about what is and isn't spam and whether you are banned or not is up to the admins.

It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.

This is irrelevant, still doesn't make it ok to cheat them by padding your character count.

(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

On this account, but the others are worse but the numbers are besides the point.

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

Not interested in soccer? You should read my posts more, but again, irrelevant and this isn't about me but you.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least.

And I said I would take that into consideration but I'm not promising anything. You still tried to cheat and would have continued to do so had you not been caught.

My life is not even close of being only claiming giveaways.

My game and round count with this account: 49
My post count with this account: 1708 posts

And (lithium) has 32 game and rounds posts, from 281 he ever made.

I can't let it pass because you are s highly trusted member here and your opinions have much value in the administration's eyes, and you are trying to give the impression I'm only here to post in giveaways threads and do insubstantial posts, what is a lie. Even while in the  coinomat campaign, the majority of my posts haven't been made in game and rounds threads and with no aid of small extra characters.

And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.







You seem to be missing the point. You are scamming Coinomat by padding your short posts with random characters. How about addressing that.

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June 14, 2015, 04:17:38 PM
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Take a look at this
I just investigated these 3 address from each user
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANfsdJuKeE1VmMFpoQqyLqDZef6hU4VVn
https://blockchain.info/address/1A2Qw4Y5P2ddxqnQ84pjJNnHJBpvb9ySXD
https://blockchain.info/address/15Q5Y8HjAqdxHvCA6gNXi8TtUt1UbrY1FT

Every transaction that come to the wallet (which is I belive from Signature Campaign), will be directly send to another unknown address.
And every sent transaction always have adjacent intervals
So, It means that this 3 users controlled by a same person. Cool
Take a look at this
I just investigated these 3 address from each user
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANfsdJuKeE1VmMFpoQqyLqDZef6hU4VVn
https://blockchain.info/address/1A2Qw4Y5P2ddxqnQ84pjJNnHJBpvb9ySXD
https://blockchain.info/address/15Q5Y8HjAqdxHvCA6gNXi8TtUt1UbrY1FT

Every transaction that come to the wallet (which is I belive from Signature Campaign), will be directly send to another unknown address.
And every sent transaction always have adjacent intervals
So, It means that this 3 users controlled by a same person. Cool

1ANfsdJuKeE1VmMFpoQqyLqDZef6hU4VVn only has 2 transaction, one going in, other going out. 1 transaction without blockchain connection would not be claimed as proof by any serious investigator.

And the last out transaction happened less than 24 hours after the coinomat payment, so it is natural that some transactions happens close to each other. I bet that if you use the same criteria with all the 100+ accounts that are part of the coinomat signature, you would find many users that are not the same person with out transactions close to each other.

And of course you ignore the transactions that are far away from each other.
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June 14, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
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And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.

It is pretty self-evident. It's very likely they are yours and I very much doubt they belong to others who you don't know. It's more than just a coincidence that you're on the same campaign, and often post one after the other, and then there's the fact you were cheating the campaigns in exactly the same way. If I ask an admin to check are you trying to tell me they wont find any other evidence linking you to other alts (which I  believe you have others than the ones mentioned here)? You're not using the same IPs or computers etc? Regardless of that, it still doesn't take away from you on your two accounts cheating the campaign.

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June 14, 2015, 04:27:39 PM
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Giveaways claims are not spam.

That's arguable. When your only existence here is to largely claim giveaways (and cheat them) it's spam in my eyes but I'm not going to get into a discussion about what is and isn't spam and whether you are banned or not is up to the admins.

It is a choice of signature program's managers if they accept giveaways claims or not. Stunna used to accept giveaways claims in his PD signature campaign, for example.

This is irrelevant, still doesn't make it ok to cheat them by padding your character count.

(and less than 100 of my posts are in giveaways threads, any way).

On this account, but the others are worse but the numbers are besides the point.

And when you say that the others don't add too much might be because you are not interested about the subjects I mostly post. Right now I post more in gambling and about soccer, in the past in speculation, and I don't see you posting about such subjects.

Not interested in soccer? You should read my posts more, but again, irrelevant and this isn't about me but you.

And I purposed give back all the money I've earned with coinomat signature(or whatever amount they agree) and don't take part in any signature campaign for some weeks at least.

And I said I would take that into consideration but I'm not promising anything. You still tried to cheat and would have continued to do so had you not been caught.

My life is not even close of being only claiming giveaways.

My game and round count with this account: 49
My post count with this account: 1708 posts

And (lithium) has 32 game and rounds posts, from 281 he ever made.

I can't let it pass because you are s highly trusted member here and your opinions have much value in the administration's eyes, and you are trying to give the impression I'm only here to post in giveaways threads and do insubstantial posts, what is a lie. Even while in the  coinomat campaign, the majority of my posts haven't been made in game and rounds threads and with no aid of small extra characters.

And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.







You seem to be missing the point. You are scamming Coinomat by padding your short posts with random characters. How about addressing that.

Yes, I did it and I'm willing to return the money and face the consequences. I would never try to deny it.

But I'm being accused of ONLY doing it, and by using 4 accounts to do it, and by one of the most trusted members here, hilarioussandco.


And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.

It is pretty self-evident. It's very likely they are yours and I very much doubt they belong to others who you don't know. It's more than just a coincidence that you're on the same campaign, and often post one after the other, and then there's the fact you were cheating the campaigns in exactly the same way. If I ask an admin to check are you trying to tell me they wont find any other evidence linking you to other alts (which I  believe you have others than the ones mentioned here)? You're not using the same IPs or computers etc? Regardless of that, it still doesn't take away from you on your two accounts cheating the campaign.

Yes, you can ask the admins about same IP's or computers. And if you have evidence of others accounts that you think belong to me you may ask me, I will confirm or deny and you can leave them neg trust too if they are mine.

And, as I said, it is not an absurd that others might have perceived it before and copied me or had the same idea without my help.

And I'm not trying to deny what I did.
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June 14, 2015, 05:27:01 PM
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And you haven't even asked if all the accounts are mine and just say that they all belong to me as if it is self-evident and beyond all questions, without showing any definitive proof. Many users have posts made more or less closely than from others member without them being alts of each others, because they life in the same time region or just by coincidence.

It is pretty self-evident. It's very likely they are yours and I very much doubt they belong to others who you don't know. It's more than just a coincidence that you're on the same campaign, and often post one after the other, and then there's the fact you were cheating the campaigns in exactly the same way. If I ask an admin to check are you trying to tell me they wont find any other evidence linking you to other alts (which I  believe you have others than the ones mentioned here)? You're not using the same IPs or computers etc? Regardless of that, it still doesn't take away from you on your two accounts cheating the campaign.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1007178.msg11617003#msg11617003

I'll let you interpret this however.
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June 14, 2015, 06:26:41 PM
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good find hilariousandco, appriciated.
you should notify the signature campaign manager about this so he can ban those users from their campaign.

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good find hilariousandco, appriciated.
you should notify the signature campaign manager about this so he can ban those users from their campaign.

I already posted a link to to this topic in coinomat signature campaign thread. and based on the link that tidus1097 posted (above you), it seems he is already aware of it.
and those users got a -ve rating from hilariousandco so maybe they won't get paid
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June 14, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
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I already told coinomat yesterday.

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June 14, 2015, 06:42:09 PM
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If it is not a bot, they must be alts of the same person.
The fact that they are using random characters makes me believe it is a bot. They clearly are trying to post quickly in order to increase their post count so in theory they would just type random buttons on their keyboard to have their posts meet the 75 character minimum, however some of the small characters would require a certain keyboard command in order to be displayed.

Actually, the fact that they're using random characters probably means it isn't a bot.  Think about it, people need to generate junk and they just smash on the keyboards.  If you have a script and you need to generate junk, why not just use some random words in a dictionary or something.

Anyway, the fact that they're using the same strategy does seem to indicate that it's the same person doing it.

Nice job, hillariousanco, for finding it!  Good catch!
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If it is not a bot, they must be alts of the same person.
The fact that they are using random characters makes me believe it is a bot. They clearly are trying to post quickly in order to increase their post count so in theory they would just type random buttons on their keyboard to have their posts meet the 75 character minimum, however some of the small characters would require a certain keyboard command in order to be displayed.

Actually, the fact that they're using random characters probably means it isn't a bot.  Think about it, people need to generate junk and they just smash on the keyboards.  If you have a script and you need to generate junk, why not just use some random words in a dictionary or something.

Anyway, the fact that they're using the same strategy does seem to indicate that it's the same person doing it.
Well you are the expert of using bots to cheat various companies, so if you say so then you must be right.

I just found it unlikely that someone would smash their keyboard and special characters would be output
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If it is not a bot, they must be alts of the same person.
The fact that they are using random characters makes me believe it is a bot. They clearly are trying to post quickly in order to increase their post count so in theory they would just type random buttons on their keyboard to have their posts meet the 75 character minimum, however some of the small characters would require a certain keyboard command in order to be displayed.

Actually, the fact that they're using random characters probably means it isn't a bot.  Think about it, people need to generate junk and they just smash on the keyboards.  If you have a script and you need to generate junk, why not just use some random words in a dictionary or something.

Anyway, the fact that they're using the same strategy does seem to indicate that it's the same person doing it.
Well you are the expert of using bots to cheat various companies, so if you say so then you must be right.
Well, you are the expert of dropping unsubstantiated allegations, so [ fill in a pointlesss but witty retort to Quickseller's trolling here ]
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I just found it unlikely that someone would smash their keyboard and special characters would be output
Who knows really?  The main point is that hillarious caught them at it.  Which was pretty cool of him, imo.
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I received another negative feedback from favdesu:

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admitted to cheat in signature campaign.

Even when I already have negative trust and before Coinomat, the other part, could manifest.
Most of my posts are valid according to the campaign rules, only 30% at most have less than 74 words, if you count all visible characters, and I still propose give all the money back if Coinomat decides so.
And the total amount I've received is  low, around 50-70 mBTC at most, counting all posts, the valids and invalids ones. Real scammers that scam several bitcoins from people, aren't judged with such severity.

For example, took several days for the user caskey4521 receive negative rating, after several proposals of other deals to pay his debt, that is of same order of magnitude than mine:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141227



Among others that have a "will be removed when debt is paid" added to the end of their feedback.

Looks like when I admit my errors,  regret and  propose to repay the damage I've done,  the my situation only gets worse. I could just deny and rush to delete or edit all the posts with the small extra characters, then go to personal attacks, like most users do, and Hilarious thought I was doing for I don't know what reason.



I'm not a scamers or a dishonest people, neither a signature scammer. I received positive trust for being paid upfront for the coin88 signature program, and fulfilling all my obligations, while several users just got the payment and did nothing and got no negative trust because of it(check my  untrusted trust rating: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=255797).
I also remembered Mitchełł about the shipping fee he forgot to charge me for the auction I won(he will confirm it), when I know he don't leave positive trust for trades, and left negative feedback to newbies asking for loans before some trusted members did it again.

And I doubt I'm the only one ""cheating"" the campaign.  If a user quotes someone and replies +1 or any other short comment, their post will be counted as valid, and will be paid. I think there are people abusing it(will you hunt them?)

I'm sorry for everything and I promise it will never happen again, with any account I own in the present or in the future.

by the way, are you sure they deserve a -ve just for that?

This is debatable. I would have thought a ban is more likely / justified than negative trust.
What forum rule are they breaking?

Pasting gibberish (even in an unreadable font) would constitute spam.

I remember that Candystripes made 70+ spam posts with some account he got for a loan default(pierre something, I think). He would be banned, but he deleted all the spam posts and avoided the ban.

I removed all the extra small characters from my messages, or deleted them, except the ones made where I can't edit them.

good find hilariousandco, appriciated.
you should notify the signature campaign manager about this so he can ban those users from their campaign.

I already posted a link to to this topic in coinomat signature campaign thread. and based on the link that tidus1097 posted (above you), it seems he is already aware of it.
and those users got a -ve rating from hilariousandco so maybe they won't get paid

As I said, I'm ok with receiving no payment and I'm willing to give back everything I've received. Can't say about others. I'm waiting for some statement from Coinomat to know what to do.

Even if I'm not banned from campaign I won't remain with them, as I promised. I don't remove the signature right now because I made the compromise to wear it for 1 week.

If it is not a bot, they must be alts of the same person.
The fact that they are using random characters makes me believe it is a bot. They clearly are trying to post quickly in order to increase their post count so in theory they would just type random buttons on their keyboard to have their posts meet the 75 character minimum, however some of the small characters would require a certain keyboard command in order to be displayed.

Actually, the fact that they're using random characters probably means it isn't a bot.  Think about it, people need to generate junk and they just smash on the keyboards.  If you have a script and you need to generate junk, why not just use some random words in a dictionary or something.

Anyway, the fact that they're using the same strategy does seem to indicate that it's the same person doing it.
Well you are the expert of using bots to cheat various companies, so if you say so then you must be right.

I just found it unlikely that someone would smash their keyboard and special characters would be output

What special characters? I don't have an english keyboard, and if you type alt gr + some letter you will get special characters. And I already said why my posts couldn't be made by a bot, but you just ignored it

Please be more cautious and give more substantial evidence before accusing people of things that would make them being perma-banned


Again forgive me for my mistakes, they won't happen again
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