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September 12, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
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I just had the pleasure of having a 10min or so telephone conversation with none other than Theodore (Ted) Shavers, the father of Trendon Shavers and had the opportunity to bring him up to speed on the happenings as of late. After leaving a mesasge or 2 previously, I was finally able to get through to him today.

I informed the elder Shavers that it would be in Trendon's best interests to get back in contact with the community that he has defrauded for the estimated amount of $5 million USD and for Theodore (Ted) to feel free to familiarize himself further on the topic, by searching his son's name on Google, for further reading.

I will be keeping in contact with Ted Shavers (the father), as I explaned to him, it would be senseless for us to file Criminal proceedings if there was a chance to recoup some of the lost funds at this point. although Civil proceedings have been set in motion, which may be cancelled if the participants are left satisfied. He has made it clear to me that Trendon will be getting a call from him immediately and instructed to get back in touch with this community. The contact that I left with his father was donshrents@hotmail.com , although we will be continuing a telephone relationship until this situation comes to an end, regardless of what that end may be.

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September 12, 2012, 11:53:09 PM
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That's interesting. Did you get any information from him that confirms that TS is pirate@40? Did he know anything about Bitcoin?
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September 13, 2012, 12:02:25 AM
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Standing ovations !

Nobody called him before about the matter?

Thanks for the hope

not for coins but that the community is not a bunch of only completly braindead, lazy, paralyzed, greedy, criminal, trolling suckers Wink

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September 13, 2012, 12:08:17 AM
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I also want to add that I just received a followup email from Theodore Shavers, confirming both the telephone conversation and the email contact.

While I am not putting all of my eggs into this basket, I feel confident that his father at least decided to answer the telephone after the messages left over the course of the last while.

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September 13, 2012, 12:26:50 AM
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I also want to add that I just received a followup email from Theodore Shavers, confirming both the telephone conversation and the email contact.

While I am not putting all of my eggs into this basket, I feel confident that his father at least decided to answer the telephone after the messages left over the course of the last while.

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Do you or did you have exposure to BCST ?

Thanks Zyk
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September 13, 2012, 12:28:50 AM
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Yes, I did have a BTCST account.

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September 13, 2012, 01:07:40 AM
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Yes, I did have a BTCST account.

~DonShrents

So you got the impression that his father is been instructed the very first time by you?

Will you level to principal, when it turns out as a ponzi?

or did you sell it? mine is just at bitcoinmax.

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September 13, 2012, 01:09:15 AM
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Sorry. I am not sure what you are asking.

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September 13, 2012, 01:20:30 AM
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I have a special request. I was only the impression that Don Shrents is Atlas. To be clear, I truly don't care if that's the case. Does somebody here have Atlas' phone number? Reason I'm asking is that I, or anybody, should make sure, 100%, that we are not being pulled/pushed down the wrong path by possibly Pirate himself. A simple phone call to Atlas, if he is Don Shrents, confirming the identity is all that is needed. This is not a trick by be to reveal Atlas behind this avatar. Don/Atlas if you trust me to keep a secret please PM me or email me. Perhaps you rather email me, but please PM letting me know that an email has been sent. Use the email on my profile page.

I would trust Atlas that a call had been placed, but at this point I'm not 100% sure. Sorry, Don. I know you'll understand.

Peace, bro.

~Bruno~
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September 13, 2012, 01:33:29 AM
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ummm...not to bust anyones bubble, but someone just recently posted pirate chatting and someone asked about his home address and who these people were. he said that address was from 20 years ago and mentioned the names were his parents, then he said something like god bless their souls...sounding like they are dead...
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September 13, 2012, 01:34:58 AM
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ummm...not to bust anyones bubble, but someone just recently posted pirate chatting and someone asked about his home address and who these people were. he said that address was from 20 years ago and mentioned the names were his parents, then he said something like god bless their souls...sounding like they are dead...

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September 13, 2012, 01:39:30 AM
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Well, they (parents) are not dead. They are alive and well.
The telephone number that I used to contact Trendon's father had nothing to do with the number posted in that chat log.

I have confirmed him using email conversations as well as telephone and will continue to keep in touch.

I have also confirmed my identity with Phinnaeus Gage. The fact that this (DonShrents) is a sock puppet account will prevent me from joining IRC with my findings without finding myself in the crosshairs, but here is what I can report here for all to confirm at their own leisure:

Theodore (Ted) Shavers - tedshavers.com - ted@tedshavers.com - 214-587-6062

thank you,
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September 13, 2012, 01:42:47 AM
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Fell free to crosscheck it if you like. I have left voice mails on 2 seperate telephone numbers for this man and he knew who I was when I contacted him again today. He also replied to emails sent to him, using the same info.

The person I spoke with was in fact Trendon Shaver's father.
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September 13, 2012, 01:45:52 AM
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http://www.oldride.com/late_model_vehicles/781972.html
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September 13, 2012, 01:49:27 AM
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Exactly and if you pay close enough attention to the nose shot of the car, you will notice it contains a background shot of what is 608 Broad Leaf Lane, the Shaver's residence in McKinney Texas.
This can be confirmed using Google Street view.

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September 13, 2012, 01:55:56 AM
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what makes me laugh is everybody is helping out to play detective, so you want to help too, so you call up his dad...or someone you think is his dad...but if your serious about this, why would you post under a different account? seems like a big joke to me...


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September 13, 2012, 02:23:34 AM
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Well, they (parents) are not dead. They are alive and well.
The telephone number that I used to contact Trendon's father had nothing to do with the number posted in that chat log.

I have confirmed him using email conversations as well as telephone and will continue to keep in touch.

I have also confirmed my identity with Phinnaeus Gage. The fact that this (DonShrents) is a sock puppet account will prevent me from joining IRC with my findings without finding myself in the crosshairs, but here is what I can report here for all to confirm at their own leisure:

Theodore (Ted) Shavers - tedshavers.com - ted@tedshavers.com - 214-587-6062

thank you,
~DonShrents

Confirmed! And have every reason to believe that what Don states is gospel and worth it's weight in gold.

~Bruno~
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September 13, 2012, 02:28:35 AM
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Man, how long until that number is disconnected.....

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September 13, 2012, 02:29:51 AM
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Man, how long until that number is disconnected.....

I don't think it will be. Look at this beauty Ted once had for sale.



If it is, he'll have a lot of explaining to do to Mr. Whipple (seriously): http://www.mysumc.org/storage/youth-documents/Confirmation%20Overview%2011.12.pdf
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Man, how long until that number is disconnected.....

I don't think it will be. Look at this beauty Ted once had for sale.



If it is, he'll have a lot of explaining to do to Mr. Whipple (seriously): http://www.mysumc.org/storage/youth-documents/Confirmation%20Overview%2011.12.pdf

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September 13, 2012, 02:35:44 AM
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As I don't believe that Trendon's twin boys are actually his after doing the math and attempting to judge their current age in pictures, I will be in touch with his wife's first husband tomorrow to bring him up to speed on the situation as well, because if this ends up going to Criminal proceedings, the chances of getting money back will be next to nill, so at that point, a Child Wellfare case can be filed as well, being that a crime of this stature would not be a safe living environment for 2 children to be a part of.
In summation, if money can not be repaid, it will be up to the masses to cause as much personal collateral damage as is possible within the constraints of the law.

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September 13, 2012, 02:42:05 AM
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Has anyone else called this number listed above?


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September 13, 2012, 02:45:32 AM
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I would suggest that level headed people feel free to contact Ted. Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going. He can be found online as part of his congregation, so please do not simply call him and swear and freak out.
Be clear and respectful and he will certainly talk to you.
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I would suggest that level headed people feel free to contact Ted. Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going. He can be found online as part of his congregation, so please do not simply call him and swear and freak out.
Be clear and respectful and he will certainly talk to you.

Perhaps sending Ted Shavers an email with the picture of "PirateAt40" would confirm or unconfirm this all???

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September 13, 2012, 02:50:59 AM
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I would suggest that level headed people feel free to contact Ted. Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going. He can be found online as part of his congregation, so please do not simply call him and swear and freak out.
Be clear and respectful and he will certainly talk to you.

Perhaps sending Ted Shavers an email with the picture of "PirateAt40" would confirm or unconfirm this all???

The family ties and identities have been confirmed. You have nothing to worry about, but feel free to add to the effort.
It would serve you better than simply posting about it here.

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As I don't believe that Trendon's twin boys are actually his after doing the math and attempting to judge their current age in pictures, I will be in touch with his wife's first husband tomorrow to bring him up to speed on the situation as well, because if this ends up going to Criminal proceedings, the chances of getting money back will be next to nill, so at that point, a Child Wellfare case can be filed as well, being that a crime of this stature would not be a safe living environment for 2 children to be a part of.
In summation, if money can not be repaid, it will be up to the masses to cause as much personal collateral damage as is possible within the constraints of the law.

~DonShrents

Interesting approach. Protect the children. What are the chances that he owes back child support or taxes?

~Bruno~
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I would suggest that level headed people feel free to contact Ted. Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going. He can be found online as part of his congregation, so please do not simply call him and swear and freak out.
Be clear and respectful and he will certainly talk to you.

Perhaps sending Ted Shavers an email with the picture of "PirateAt40" would confirm or unconfirm this all???

The family ties and identities have been confirmed. You have nothing to worry about, but feel free to add to the effort.
It would serve you better than simply posting about it here.

~DonShrents

I may give Mr. Shavers a call myself. Would have to be tomorrow as it is getting quite late in Texas now.

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September 13, 2012, 02:55:55 AM
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As I don't believe that Trendon's twin boys are actually his after doing the math and attempting to judge their current age in pictures, I will be in touch with his wife's first husband tomorrow to bring him up to speed on the situation as well, because if this ends up going to Criminal proceedings, the chances of getting money back will be next to nill, so at that point, a Child Wellfare case can be filed as well, being that a crime of this stature would not be a safe living environment for 2 children to be a part of.
In summation, if money can not be repaid, it will be up to the masses to cause as much personal collateral damage as is possible within the constraints of the law.

~DonShrents

Interesting approach. Protect the children. What are the chances that he owes back child support or taxes?

~Bruno~


Well, he would only owe child support till she got remarried, right ? or does that just apply to alimony ?

Let's hope he doesn't currently have an outstanding bill with the ex-wife.
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September 13, 2012, 05:38:19 AM
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Now that we have a 100% VERIFIED shipping/living address for Trendon, if he chooses to keep silent and refuse to make an appearance by tomorrow by 5:00PM CST (his time zone), I will be back in contact with his father to explain the next step of our process and to expect Police or at minimum, a process server to visit all of the family members, in search of Trendon.

Even though we have his address, I think that we should drag as many family members into this as possible to make them all aware of the scale of this fraud in order to add as much social pressure as possible, as it doesn't cost anything.

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Even though we have his address, I think that we should drag as many family members into this as possible to make them all aware of the scale of this fraud in order to add as much social pressure as possible, as it doesn't cost anything.

Depends if they're looking for hush money.
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Even though we have his address, I think that we should drag as many family members into this as possible to make them all aware of the scale of this fraud in order to add as much social pressure as possible, as it doesn't cost anything.

Depends if they're looking for hush money.

It would be quite embarrassing for them knowing their background to have a front page newspaper article about their son. Someone might also put up a flyer at his old mans church before mass on a sunday  Smiley



 

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The person I spoke with was in fact Trendon Shaver's father.

But do you know (this) Trendon Shavers is Pirate? I agree with the above poster, confront the father with a picture of pirate and have him confirm that is indeed his son.  If that was already done, please post it.
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The person I spoke with was in fact Trendon Shaver's father.

But do you know (this) Trendon Shavers is Pirate? I agree with the above poster, confront the father with a picture of pirate and have him confirm that is indeed his son.  If that was already done, please post it.

IF you read the thread I already asked this question and got the answer of YES.

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I read "The family ties and identities have been confirmed". I would just like to know how they were verified before everyone goes after the wrong family.
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Cadeau to people acting on the info and contacting the family. If the point is to reach a settlement or take this to court, doing anything more than proofing identity and explaining the situation and the case so far, to his father, is not doing any good. It sounds like his father was cooperative. If a number of people intent to call him and other in his family and post their answers to get some kind of confession, you are not helping your case. Benefit of doubt applies especially to old fathers, spouses and twin sons! when you get a lawyer, he will tell you the same thing.
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Now that it 'appears' that his identity has been confirmed, the most productive thing to do would be to contact a lawyer and let them handle it. No good can come out of harassing his family or trying to embarrass him further. The chance of someone taking it too far is too great. There are established legal measure to deal with fraud, so use them.

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Please consider taking the father's contact info down. I'm sure it can be easily found, but doxing bystanders like that seems a  bit indecent.


Also is there a summary of the proof for the link between pirate, the baseball-capped guy in the photos and Trendon Shavers? That'll be needed if he says he's not pirate.

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I just had the pleasure of having a 10min or so telephone conversation with none other than Theodore (Ted) Shavers, the father of Trendon Shavers and had the opportunity to bring him up to speed on the happenings as of late. After leaving a mesasge or 2 previously, I was finally able to get through to him today.

I informed the elder Shavers that it would be in Trendon's best interests to get back in contact with the community that he has defrauded for the estimated amount of $5 million USD and for Theodore (Ted) to feel free to familiarize himself further on the topic, by searching his son's name on Google, for further reading.

I will be keeping in contact with Ted Shavers (the father), as I explaned to him, it would be senseless for us to file Criminal proceedings if there was a chance to recoup some of the lost funds at this point. although Civil proceedings have been set in motion, which may be cancelled if the participants are left satisfied. He has made it clear to me that Trendon will be getting a call from him immediately and instructed to get back in touch with this community. The contact that I left with his father was donshrents@hotmail.com , although we will be continuing a telephone relationship until this situation comes to an end, regardless of what that end may be.

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i dont think its nice to take this to his family and to publish their contact information.
he is an adult...
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Please let the father know the FBI has already been contacted.

In this case, you should send the OP an evidence of this FBI contact, so that he does not unknowingly lie to the father on your behalf if it appears that this contact never took place or was done in a way that nothing will happen (you didn't just drop an anonymous mail to postmaster@fbi.gov, right?).

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Please let the father know the FBI has already been contacted.

In this case, you should send the OP an evidence of this FBI contact, so that he does not unknowingly lie to the father on your behalf if it appears that this contact never took place or was done in a way that nothing will happen (you didn't just drop an anonymous mail to postmaster@fbi.gov, right?).

i was not the one to make contact with the fbi. However we will be doing so soon.

Goat , please , this is Don Shrents thread and I repeat :


I´d rather say you failed for a complete 6 weeks, busy trading your bonds of course !....where is Matthew? !

And now you shove your police - officers, FBI and the renewed IRC - theater - deception in your front or behind goat, as the next step

for you is to fund a bitcoin.org wallet for private investigations to have Don - Shrents talk to prirate personally and report in his thread,

as he is the most trustworthy, level headed, advance thinking and competent contributor in this story.

And that should be accomplished before Trendon appears in court in November, all else and mark my words, the different brotherhoods

will take care , that the loot is not given back to the rightful owners of those coins......... Any Caucasious - coins included!!

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I would suggest that level headed people feel free to contact Ted. Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going. He can be found online as part of his congregation, so please do not simply call him and swear and freak out.
Be clear and respectful and he will certainly talk to you.

Perhaps sending Ted Shavers an email with the picture of "PirateAt40" would confirm or unconfirm this all???

People verified his father's address and Trendon's identity before he even defaulted.  The Shavers family is well established in the area and it's really not hard to track the relationships and find old photos and writings.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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Please consider taking the father's contact info down. I'm sure it can be easily found, but doxing bystanders like that seems a  bit indecent.


Also is there a summary of the proof for the link between pirate, the baseball-capped guy in the photos and Trendon Shavers? That'll be needed if he says he's not pirate.

The photo of the Vegas meet up at which Goat was present shows the same guy who is Trendon Shavers in social media.  His family has that person friended on their social media accounts, so it's not just someone using the name.  Trendon is definitely associated with GPUMax and his brother also has connections to Zack going back years.  Another person on the forum also met pirate face to face for a hardware transaction and confirmed that he's the guy in the Trendon Shavers photos.

It would be more appropriate to contact Trendon's known business associates at GPUMax than to harass extended family members - after all, GPUMax shared a wallet with BS&T and it's reasonable to expect that they either know something about where the funds have gone or that they're also pursuing Trendon for missing funds.

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I read "The family ties and identities have been confirmed". I would just like to know how they were verified before everyone goes after the wrong family.
So, it's OK to call the family when they scam people for 20 BTC but it isn't OK to call them for 500K BTC... Got it!
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I read "The family ties and identities have been confirmed". I would just like to know how they were verified before everyone goes after the wrong family.
So, it's OK to call the family when they scam people for 20 BTC but it isn't OK to call them for 500K BTC... Got it!

No you dont.
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In a recent default, a precedent was established that it is perfectly reasonable to contact family members to civilly discuss the fraud committed by their relation. In that case, the father was able to intervene and show his son the light, and the creditors in that issue have recently been made whole.

Why would this issue be any different? It's exponentially more money, but the principles are the same. At this level it is a courtesy at the very least to let someone know that their child has committed massive fraud at a felony/crazy people going after him with wicked intent level hatred. If either of my 20-something sons had just stolen $5 million from a community that includes serious anarchists, right wing gun owners, passionately government hating doomsday preppers, and technical wizards, I think I would want to know, if only to prepare myself for one of several inevitable conclusions. And I think that I might be inspired to go straight to their homes, give them a sound smack up side the head and drag them by the ear to where ever they had stashed the loot and have them start making restitution. But that's my style of parenting adult children. Perhaps Puppet doesn't feel that way, and it is the village's responsibility to raise children the right way.
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I read "The family ties and identities have been confirmed". I would just like to know how they were verified before everyone goes after the wrong family.

If you please read this thread and let the command in Don´s hands, then you can be rest assured that it is !

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Be aware that he is a decent sounding person and is represented as being a 'God fearing' man and church going.

Oh, so that's why he's been so quiet lately. Been busy on overtime, praying no doubt.

'Thou shalt not steal' - Never mind pirate, you can rest assured when your time comes, God will decide your eternal fate. Bet the hot coals are being stoked even as we speak. LOL

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http://www.mckinneytexas.org/Directory.aspx?did=69

I'm not sure which number applies, but I'm sure as heck that they should take a call concerning a five million dollar thief seriously.

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http://www.mckinneytexas.org/Directory.aspx?did=69

I'm not sure which number applies, but I'm sure as heck that they should take a call concerning a five million dollar thief seriously.

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Calm down stallion, they have, stop the pressure, let them the opportunity to help Don to locate and contact pirate personally.

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Anyone that thinks contacting the family is stupid, shut the hell up..

This is hows its done folks..  

Either sit and take it and shut up, or let the big boys do it, and get actual results..



Pirate gave up all rights for us to act civilly, I say hang him..  call every single person associated with him, let the world know how much of a scumbag he is...

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Anyone that thinks contacting the family is stupid, shut the hell up..

This is hows its done folks.. 

Either sit and take it and shut up, or let the big boys do it, and get actual results..



Pirate gave up all rights for us to act civilly, I saw hang him..  call every single person associated with him, let the world know how much of a scumbag he is...
 

Thats worth your and anybody elses coins?

Take care that you can stand the consquences of such actions......my coins then...have been lost by you!

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Hey Don,

take care of your thread.......the public needs infos......if bored

just phantasize what you got up your sleeves.....if its not cocks please Wink

may you think of a way to block all efforts of the IRC cartel.....which surely is not in everybody´s or the communitys interest....be careful!

Do you need funds to let somebody do some leg- work to snuff out where Trendon actually is located?

Can you ask the father, where you could contact him to resolve everything in bitlanes interests? ---sorry that was a really a bad joke--

Just eating a pitzza together or getting hold of some accounting of him would be nice----ask him if he really want to fuck up his life

for all future time....as bitcointalk.org is the future goverment of the world Wink or if he just can think of telling the true story and might be helped

by us in court in November?

Come on lets have some action, news and popcorn !

See ya all tomorrow

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As I don't believe that Trendon's twin boys are actually his after doing the math and attempting to judge their current age in pictures, I will be in touch with his wife's first husband tomorrow to bring him up to speed on the situation as well, because if this ends up going to Criminal proceedings, the chances of getting money back will be next to nill, so at that point, a Child Wellfare case can be filed as well, being that a crime of this stature would not be a safe living environment for 2 children to be a part of.
In summation, if money can not be repaid, it will be up to the masses to cause as much personal collateral damage as is possible within the constraints of the law.

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Have not read through the thread after this point....

I can confirm the twins are not his. They are his current wife's and her ex husbands. She has recent filings on record to request child support. Not new requests, just normal filings from what I can tell, due to her address change, etc, or whatever reason. They do however of course lead to her ex huband's name and place of employment. And birth certificates verifying her and ex husband having said twins exist with the clerks office.

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ah ok...now you got Zyk by his balls.... Wink

to take irony serious is the worst and most embarrassing pain...even more so if it is due to his limited english skills Embarrassed

Laywers is still wrong IMHO...try to take Maged back a bit...cause its Don Shrents way which gets back the most coins

for the most people...

Lets keep up the good work and follow the truthful trails before involving squeezy sleasy folks...

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This is what I sent yesterday, as I said I would continue to keep in touch each day for progress reports:

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Hello Ted,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that no one has heard from Trendon as of yet, so would it be safe to assume that we should be persuing Criminal Charges at this point ? I was fairly certain after speaking with you about the situation, that you might see it in your heart to contact Trendon and let him know the serious nature of what has transpired. With the amount of money involved, we are being left with less and less choices as each day passes and eventually will be forced to alert the proper authorities about the clear cut case of fraud that has transpired.
 
 I would appreciate you getting back to me and letting me know if there has in fact been any progress on your end of things, as there is a good chance that once the ball is set in motion, that this will not turn out to be a very favorable decision of Trendon's to ignore the community that he has blatantly stole all of this money from.
 
 As I said, I welcome you to familiarize yourself further by simply going to www.google.com and searching TRENDON SHAVERS .
 
 I can bet that you will be pleasantly surprised to find out the scale of this as well as the number of people that are currently looking for compensation.
 
 I look forward to your reply.
 
 Thank you.



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Good morning,

You give him 2 weeks, and give me 24 hours…

Spoke with him yesterday and this morning, my belief is calm should prevail, continue your communication efforts with him, he is getting your emails.

Ted Shavers
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What does that last reply mean? I don't get it...



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Don, I would think it would be good if you deleted his phone number?

What good would it do that everyone swarms this person, instead of him communicating with one voice of reason?

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Don, I would think it would be good if you deleted his phone number?

What good would it do that everyone swarms this person, instead of him communicating with one voice of reason?

The telephone number has already been made public record previously, so if someone feels the need to contact Ted and hassle him, they are more than welcome. They should also take into consideration the fact that doing so may eliminate any future oportunities of keeping in contact, so I would hope that people use common sense and respect, whatever they decide.

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September 14, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
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What does that last reply mean? I don't get it...



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Spoke with him yesterday and this morning, my belief is calm should prevail, continue your communication efforts with him, he is getting your emails
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Sounds like he is upset for a second email "only" 24 hours later.  Seems like a good reason to be upset.
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The telephone number has already been made public record previously, so if someone feels the need to contact Ted and hassle him, they are more than welcome. They should also take into consideration the fact that doing so may eliminate any future oportunities of keeping in contact, so I would hope that people use common sense and respect, whatever they decide.

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Why would we hassle Ted?  He seems like a fairly reasonable man.  I think this is a case of the apple falling far from the tree.

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The telephone number has already been made public record previously, so if someone feels the need to contact Ted and hassle him, they are more than welcome. They should also take into consideration the fact that doing so may eliminate any future oportunities of keeping in contact, so I would hope that people use common sense and respect, whatever they decide.

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Why would we hassle Ted?  He seems like a fairly reasonable man.  I think this is a case of the apple falling far from the tree.

I simply meant, be nice when/if contacting. The telephone number is there for all to use and verify. I would just remind people that Ted has been very decent to talk to and to show the same amount of kindness and respect in return, if choosing to contact him.
I should have been more clear, as when I read it now, it reads like I advised people against contacting him.
Sorry. Not what I meant.

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I just had the pleasure of having a 10min or so telephone conversation with none other than Theodore (Ted) Shavers, the father of Trendon Shavers and had the opportunity to bring him up to speed on the happenings as of late. After leaving a mesasge or 2 previously, I was finally able to get through to him today.

I informed the elder Shavers that it would be in Trendon's best interests to get back in contact with the community that he has defrauded for the estimated amount of $5 million USD and for Theodore (Ted) to feel free to familiarize himself further on the topic, by searching his son's name on Google, for further reading.

I will be keeping in contact with Ted Shavers (the father), as I explaned to him, it would be senseless for us to file Criminal proceedings if there was a chance to recoup some of the lost funds at this point. although Civil proceedings have been set in motion, which may be cancelled if the participants are left satisfied. He has made it clear to me that Trendon will be getting a call from him immediately and instructed to get back in touch with this community. The contact that I left with his father was donshrents@hotmail.com , although we will be continuing a telephone relationship until this situation comes to an end, regardless of what that end may be.

~DonShrents

I find it ironic because you are the domain registrar of Pirate's sites.

The user Don Shrents is not the (long e) Don Shrents. He's a trusted member of this forum opting to use that moniker for this investigation. (and it's not me, either) A handful of other members on this forum may be able to verify that fact, but I don't know who or how many.

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September 15, 2012, 04:33:27 AM
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There's a few things that have come to my attention recently, that I think are important to this whole issue.

Patrick, can you please expose what you previously thought to be pirate's business model? If not, why not?

Given he's not surfacing or communicating, I don't see why not.  This may not be the actual model used but is is one way to do it - it exploits an inefficiency between two markets and indulges in market manipulation along the way.  I would think a year at 3%/week would be easier, but it would become unweildy to do it for much longer than that (again, it's an opinion).

   Mr X wants a 10% return on a USD investment, but banks pay near zero.
   Mr Z can provide him that return and gets a $500k deposit.
   Mr Z buys bitcoins at $5 each.  Because bitcoins is small, Mr Z can corner and squeeze the market - preventing big price swings, selling high and buying low.
   Mr Z does this with bitcoins that he has obtained from bitcoin users - he pays them interest.  Over six months, Mr Z has moved the price to $11, sells 50k to return $550k to Mr X
   Mr Z has happy customers, and made some money along the way.

The plus of this is that the price of bitcoins generally increases.  The down side is that the market is controlled and there is much less free-will or competitive force at work.  The phrase "you've been played" springs to mind.  Interestingly, this process also allows (within reason) a forecast future trading range (increasing).  The bubble over $13 probably hurt BS&T along with the reduced liquidity from the August withdrawal spree.  Having watched this over the past year, it was clear a lot of trading was not occurring through Gox and there are lots of good reasons for that.

Why can't he unwind it all quickly/smoothly?  Not sure, but then I would have run it differently.


And on a competitive note, since BS&T closed shop, I have processed around 8000 BTC of withdrawals for Starfish customers. 

Apparently the secret "business plan" that a few people mentioned they knew from close dealings with pirate was a total load of shit. There really never was a legitimate business, we've been flat out had. What is probably most likely is that he used the profits he shaved from pool hopping with gpumax to keep his ponzi floating long enough to make it believable, before re-opening the business to the general public.

If the info I've seen on gpumax is accurate, then he and his silent business partners have known about this from the beginning, and have never intended to pay anything significant back. If this is true, then giving them the benefit of the doubt by pushing for a civil settlement is playing to their favor and not ours. Not only do we have basically no chance of getting anything back, but we would have to pay a significant sum just to see him in court (assuming he doesn't run to Brazil or somewhere we can't touch him, then we'd pay for absolutely nothing).

In short, messing with Trendon's family is probably the least useful option. He and his business partners should be our direct targets, and chances are we're better off going immediately for criminal charges in order that things proceed as quickly as possible, and to minimize any further losses on our part. Consider every day that we wait to throw him in jail to be hookers and blow.

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When is Trendon's upcoming court date? It just occurred to me that Trendon's father asking for "a couple weeks" could coincide with something (like him leaving the country, this court date that's coming up...). Has it occurred to anyone to contact the prosecution with information about what Trendon has been up to? It may be information that is useful to someone.

Just a random Friday Night Thought.

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It's hard to figure out which is more idiotic:  Investing in an obvious Ponzi, or getting all internet-detective when obvious Ponzi takes your money. 
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When is Trendon's upcoming court date? It just occurred to me that Trendon's father asking for "a couple weeks" could coincide with something (like him leaving the country, this court date that's coming up...). Has it occurred to anyone to contact the prosecution with information about what Trendon has been up to? It may be information that is useful to someone.

Just a random Friday Night Thought.

The court date is in November and it's a civil case.  There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.

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The court date is in November and it's a civil case.  There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.

I realize y'all are taking this very seriously but I can't resist the urge to request that Judge Judy be requested to precede over this trial. She handles cases in Texas.

For the publicity.

and the lolz.


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The court date is in November and it's a civil case.  There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.

I realize y'all are taking this very seriously but I can't resist the urge to request that Judge Judy be requested to precede over this trial. She handles cases in Texas.

For the publicity.

and the lolz.



Only up to $5,000 though.

And I honestly think this whole affair has become beyond ridiculous.  Not to mention the fact that pirate logged in yesterday and has no doubt read all about everyone's plans to harass his family.


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The court date is in November and it's a civil case.  There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.

I realize y'all are taking this very seriously but I can't resist the urge to request that Judge Judy be requested to precede over this trial. She handles cases in Texas.

For the publicity.

and the lolz.



Only up to $5,000 though.

And I honestly think this whole affair has become beyond ridiculous.  Not to mention the fact that pirate logged in yesterday and has no doubt read all about everyone's plans to harass his family.



Brazen little bastard, ain't he?

I used to live in Houston in the early 90's, and have made several friends, one of which is an (American) Indian, now living only 34 miles from Trendon Shaver's known address. Therefore, Threndon, since you brazenly log on and read the latest, consider this: If you don't make your presence on this forum within 48 hours, and start to do what's right, I'm giving my friend Jake (his real first name) a call. I don't think he'll mind at all driving the distance to see you and both have a beer or two on my dime to discuss the matter at hand face-to-face.

Jake and I once had a bet to see who could carry the most drywall into a commercial building, doing so at four 4' X 12' sheets at a time. He won, and I had to pay for dinner. (I was a supervisor for the largest drywall company at the time, and this was a hot order where the usual stockers were all tied up)

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PS: THIS IS BITCOIN!!! So, Trendon, either come here and face the music and make right, or discuss your options over beer with Jake on my dime. Your call.
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Brazen little bastard, ain't he?

I used to live in Houston in the early 90's, and have made several friends, one of which is an (American) Indian, now living only 34 miles from Trendon Shaver's known address. Therefore, Threndon, since you brazenly log on and read the latest, consider this: If you don't make your presence on this forum within 48 hours, and start to do what's right, I'm giving my friend Jake (his real first name) a call. I don't think he'll mind at all driving the distance to see you and both have a beer or two on my dime to discuss the matter at hand face-to-face.

Jake and I once had a bet to see who could carry the most drywall into a commercial building, doing so at four 4' X 12' sheets at a time. He won, and I had to pay for dinner. (I was a supervisor for the largest drywall company at the time, and this was a hot order where the usual stockers were all tied up)

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PS: THIS IS BITCOIN!!! So, Trendon, either come here and face the music and make right, or discuss your options over beer with Jake on my dime. Your call.

I'm sure Trendon is capable of hiring armed security to deal with uninvited guests.    No pesky "duty to retreat" in Texas.

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PS: THIS IS BITCOIN!!!

Exactly.  Any Bitcoiner going to Texas to show Mr. Shavers a thing or two will probably get rolled right into a new scam.  BUT THIS ONE CANNOT POSSIBLY A SCAM! YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! A GROWN MAN WHO LOVES SPONGE BOB SQUARE PANTS RATED IT AAAAA+++++
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When is Trendon's upcoming court date? It just occurred to me that Trendon's father asking for "a couple weeks" could coincide with something (like him leaving the country, this court date that's coming up...). Has it occurred to anyone to contact the prosecution with information about what Trendon has been up to? It may be information that is useful to someone.

Just a random Friday Night Thought.

The court date is in November and it's a civil case.  There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.

If you're refering to the court date from the old case of DLA(sp?) vs trendon and startex or whoever, then he will not be there. He was seperated from that case a while back. We covered that in one of the other threads. If I can dig a link, I'll edit.

It is also highly unrelated to the current situation.

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September 15, 2012, 01:52:15 PM
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I don't understand how this would be a civil suit with most of the "investors" living outside of the USA.....


Has anyone spoke to a lawyer to get some answers of what can be done?









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Why doesnt someone contact this guy for some legal advice?
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Why doesnt someone contact this guy for some legal advice?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109363.msg1189905

Are you pirate's puppet? who is that lawyer? lol

i think real lawyers will be best off but thanks...

He is a real lawyer, or at least claims to be, specialized in criminal and tort law. Since you said you couldnt afford a lawyer, and since this guy is at least familiar with bitcoins, it would make sense to get his opinion.  You can always ignore it later.
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Don, will you be making contact with him again today? He said something about "give me 24 hours" so I'm thinking he's coming up with something to state, correct?

I think what he meant was: "WTF, you're waiting for Trendon for 2 weeks and now you want an answer from me on 24hrs?"
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September 15, 2012, 10:03:42 PM
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If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled.
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?

PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..

Pirate is 3rd from the right.  His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX.  He will be turning 30 in September.

Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it.

All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist.  Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential.

I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package Smiley

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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

Well looking at the POS Pontiac he drives I would bet he has already declared bankruptcy Tongue (Sorry Anti-V8's their junk)


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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

Most of it has probably been converted to gold bullion and is in some storage locker(s) spread around the country rented under business names. At least, that's what I would do.
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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

Most of it has probably been converted to gold bullion and is in some storage locker(s) spread around the country rented under business names. At least, that's what I would do.

Intead I expect that he lost most of the monies, probably in Zeek.
He could have been scammed too (with all that stash he made a fat target). In that case I wonder why he just not tell us.
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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

Most of it has probably been converted to gold bullion and is in some storage locker(s) spread around the country rented under business names. At least, that's what I would do.

Intead I expect that he lost most of the monies, probably in Zeek.
He could have been scammed too (with all that stash he made a fat target). In that case I wonder why he just not tell us.

Although it denied, if is related with Zeek maybe are expecting a happy ending.

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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it.  If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.

Most of it has probably been converted to gold bullion and is in some storage locker(s) spread around the country rented under business names. At least, that's what I would do.

Intead I expect that he lost most of the monies, probably in Zeek.
He could have been scammed too (with all that stash he made a fat target). In that case I wonder why he just not tell us.

Zeek's model involved promoting the fuck out of Zeekler.  It seems highly unlikely that if pirate was a Zeek affiliate he wouldn't have been promoting the hell out of Zeekler wherever he had an internet presence.

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I'm still wondering if there's a Global Oil Fund connection, heavily promoted at TalkGold, and used Wallet Bit when accepting Bitcoin. The owner(s) of GOF went AWOL about the same time Pirate did.

I'm not trying to divert this thread, but this may need looking into, and if anything is found, a new thread may be warranted.

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latest?
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dead thread is dead?
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dead thread is dead?

Shit got more real than telling on Trendon to dad when the SEC started soliciting for witnesses.
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Yeah good going guys getting the SEC involved.... Bitcoin will soon be called AmericaCoin and All Asic Pre Orders belong to the Government Cheesy


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DonShrents, isnt that the pseudonym which is used to register pirateat40.com.... just thinking...
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DonShrents, isnt that the pseudonym which is used to register pirateat40.com.... just thinking...
http://dns.robtex.com/pirateat40.com.html#whois

You have a lot of reading to do.

'thor's save 'n rend' is another anagram that I especially like.

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actually i oversaw that this thread is little old...Smiley, sry
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Does nobody simply give him a visit as now all his infos are public ( name, adress...) For such amount in many place over the world you will get some shootg.. front your face and you ( pirate) will be more available for a talk... I know radical way are not the best blabla... but sometime for big money its the best way anyway... Pirate could just pay some fucking good lawers ( he will do ) and make you waiting for years before to be out of usa...

I guess its USA and yes better to wait for law LOL... say bye to your funds guys sadly  Embarrassed and regret the far west period lol....

I remind how pirate was proud of himself talking about managing the whole bitcoin market, why now do you hide your ass man? are you scared? can you hide your familly forever too? Cause you should know some are cool an some much less cool Wink so take care to them and you... its 5 millions usd man...

Btw I didn't invested in Pirate scam, its just my saturday night thought...

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Does nobody simply give him a visit as now all his infos are public ( name, adress...) For such amount in many place over the world you will get some shootg.. front your face and you ( pirate) will be more available for a talk... I know radical way are not the best blabla... but sometime for big money its the best way anyway... Pirate could just pay some fucking good lawers ( he will do ) and make you waiting for years before to be out of usa...

I guess its USA and yes better to wait for law LOL... say bye to your funds guys sadly  Embarrassed and regret the far west period lol....

I remind how pirate was proud of himself talking about managing the whole bitcoin market, why now do you hide your ass man? are you scared? can you hide your familly forever too? Cause you should know some are cool an some much less cool Wink so take care to them and you... its 5 millions usd man...

Btw I didn't invested in Pirate scam, its just my saturday night thought...

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I guess a bad saturday night thought lol... Anyway I'm on the side of the ones who like to fix problem by themself... as said its usually much efficient...

Anyway was just a thought...forgot it if you prefer  Wink

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Looks like his translator is on the fritz.
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I could reply by telling what I'm thinking of such remarks ( yes sorry my English isn't perfect as not all countries over the world have 'English" for native language...) but it's better I don't. I could write in French but I guess you even don't know there are other languages in the world...and I wouldn't make you think that you discovered the new antique language...

I let you in your shit with pirate guys Wink

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Does nobody simply give him a visit as now all his infos are public ( name, adress...) For such amount in many place over the world you will get some shootg.. front your face and you ( pirate) will be more available for a talk... I know radical way are not the best blabla... but sometime for big money its the best way anyway... Pirate could just pay some fucking good lawers ( he will do ) and make you waiting for years before to be out of usa...


What you're suggesting has been suggested many times before in pirate threads (and in Bitcoinica threads, too, for that matter).  What on earth makes you think that confronting pirate face to face would lead to any payments?  Sure, you could threaten him but he lives in Texas which happens to have stand your ground laws and he could easily claim that he was fearful enough of whoever turned up to threaten him to justify shooting them. In fact, the stuff which has been posted in this board regarding doing things to his family could even be used to back up any claim on his part that he felt someone turning up on his doorstep posed a legitimate threat to his family.

You're naive if you think that everyone just rolls over in the face of intimidation.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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Does nobody simply give him a visit as now all his infos are public ( name, adress...) For such amount in many place over the world you will get some shootg.. front your face and you ( pirate) will be more available for a talk... I know radical way are not the best blabla... but sometime for big money its the best way anyway... Pirate could just pay some fucking good lawers ( he will do ) and make you waiting for years before to be out of usa...


What you're suggesting has been suggested many times before in pirate threads (and in Bitcoinica threads, too, for that matter).  What on earth makes you think that confronting pirate face to face would lead to any payments?  Sure, you could threaten him but he lives in Texas which happens to have stand your ground laws and he could easily claim that he was fearful enough of whoever turned up to threaten him to justify shooting them. In fact, the stuff which has been posted in this board regarding doing things to his family could even be used to back up any claim on his part that he felt someone turning up on his doorstep posed a legitimate threat to his family.

You're naive if you think that everyone just rolls over in the face of intimidation.

It's because he's French.
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Does nobody simply give him a visit as now all his infos are public ( name, adress...) For such amount in many place over the world you will get some shootg.. front your face and you ( pirate) will be more available for a talk... I know radical way are not the best blabla... but sometime for big money its the best way anyway... Pirate could just pay some fucking good lawers ( he will do ) and make you waiting for years before to be out of usa...


What you're suggesting has been suggested many times before in pirate threads (and in Bitcoinica threads, too, for that matter).  What on earth makes you think that confronting pirate face to face would lead to any payments?  Sure, you could threaten him but he lives in Texas which happens to have stand your ground laws and he could easily claim that he was fearful enough of whoever turned up to threaten him to justify shooting them. In fact, the stuff which has been posted in this board regarding doing things to his family could even be used to back up any claim on his part that he felt someone turning up on his doorstep posed a legitimate threat to his family.

You're naive if you think that everyone just rolls over in the face of intimidation.

It's because he's French.

I see what you did there!
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^^^ lol Cheesy
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September 30, 2012, 03:10:50 PM
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Salut mec, but tabernak is a Quebecer oath, and would not normally be ascribed to the French. The French, well known for their love of hairy women and snails in drawn butter, have nothing in comparison to the glorious people of Quebec.

On the subject of intimidation, Quebecers have the signal honor of being one of only two nationalities who have defeated the US in war- the other being the Vietnamese.
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Salut mec, but tabernak is a Quebecer oath, and would not normally be ascribed to the French. The French, well known for their love of hairy women and snails in drawn butter, have nothing in comparison to the glorious people of Quebec.

On the subject of intimidation, Quebecers have the signal honor of being one of only two nationalities who have defeated the US in war- the other being the Vietnamese.


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September 30, 2012, 04:16:46 PM
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Quebecers have the signal honor of being one of only two nationalities who have defeated the US in war.
It was actually the British army who won that war.
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Quebecers have the signal honor of being one of only two nationalities who have defeated the US in war.
It was actually the British army who won that war.

More like the Mohawks and assorted other tribes that were allied with the British won it for them. The french in France were working with the yankees against the British, the ones in Quebec had no army to fight anyone.
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But, mes amis, that's what is so wonderful about this community... there is actual intelligence here. I can make such a inflammatory statement as that, and there are multiple people who can not only argue, but do so cogently and accurately.

Thank you for being on the ball. It makes it interesting here.
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Be careful not to violate any fair credit collection laws.

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Can-con quota filled...   


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Be careful not to violate any fair credit collection laws.

You know - someone should look into this - I'm betting there are a few of the less reputable collection agencies who'd love to make his life hell.


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Be careful not to violate any fair credit collection laws.
You know - someone should look into this - I'm betting there are a few of the less reputable collection agencies who'd love to make his life hell.

How are people going to prove to the collection agency that pirate owes them money?   Unless a collection agency can provide proof of the debt, they can be fined every time they contact the debtor.  Even if they can provide such proof, they can still be fined if they are told to contact the debtor in writing only and they continue contacting the debtor or others by other methods.  Collection agencies generally want debts they can easily take to court if the debtor doesn't pay. 

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you could send the Nigerian Debt Collectors!



Joking aside, im just wondering if there has been any more conversation between Pirates father and the OP - or is this thread a load of BS?
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Be careful not to violate any fair credit collection laws.
You know - someone should look into this - I'm betting there are a few of the less reputable collection agencies who'd love to make his life hell.

How are people going to prove to the collection agency that pirate owes them money?   Unless a collection agency can provide proof of the debt, they can be fined every time they contact the debtor.  Even if they can provide such proof, they can still be fined if they are told to contact the debtor in writing only and they continue contacting the debtor or others by other methods.  Collection agencies generally want debts they can easily take to court if the debtor doesn't pay. 

 Obviously pirate didnt rip off anyone important just like some laws dont get made unless someone famous is affected  Smiley

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My advice is to be patient. Things are happening albeit at a glacial pace. This is the way it goes.

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My advice is to be patient. Things are happening albeit at a glacial pace. This is the way it goes.

Things seem to be happening on the GPUMax front - what that means for users is anyone's guess.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/10u4wz/pirateat40_states_that_gpumax_is_going_down_on/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55819.msg1238783#msg1238783

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Be careful not to violate any fair credit collection laws.
You know - someone should look into this - I'm betting there are a few of the less reputable collection agencies who'd love to make his life hell.

How are people going to prove to the collection agency that pirate owes them money?   Unless a collection agency can provide proof of the debt, they can be fined every time they contact the debtor.  Even if they can provide such proof, they can still be fined if they are told to contact the debtor in writing only and they continue contacting the debtor or others by other methods.  Collection agencies generally want debts they can easily take to court if the debtor doesn't pay. 

Which is why I said "less reputable collection"

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you could send the Nigerian Debt Collectors!

Joking aside, im just wondering if there has been any more conversation between Pirates father and the OP - or is this thread a load of BS?

I vote BS.  It seems if you can get people to think something is happening for long enough, people eventually either forget they were robbed or stop caring that they were...

Hardforks aren't that hard. It’s getting others to use them that's hard.
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you could send the Nigerian Debt Collectors!

Joking aside, im just wondering if there has been any more conversation between Pirates father and the OP - or is this thread a load of BS?

I vote BS.  It seems if you can get people to think something is happening for long enough, people eventually either forget they were robbed or stop caring that they were...
I think I am feeling this way now, I guess we are going through the various stages of grief.

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October 07, 2012, 07:23:12 PM
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you could send the Nigerian Debt Collectors!

Joking aside, im just wondering if there has been any more conversation between Pirates father and the OP - or is this thread a load of BS?

I vote BS.  It seems if you can get people to think something is happening for long enough, people eventually either forget they were robbed or stop caring that they were...
I think I am feeling this way now, I guess we are going through the various stages of grief.
interesting observation....I think you may be right...

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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.

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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.
which will turn into the end of the month...

Hardforks aren't that hard. It’s getting others to use them that's hard.
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Which actually means never!

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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.
which will turn into the end of the month...

Did I miss something? what happens on the 12th?

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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.
which will turn into the end of the month...

Did I miss something? what happens on the 12th?
on the 17th of september pirate said the earliest he could pay out was october 12th...there are some paste bin links in the thread list...

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cross posting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114961.msg1254315#msg1254315

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October 21, 2012, 02:12:31 PM
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Any updates lately on Trendon Shavers' situation? Anyone trying to pool resources for legal action?
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Any updates lately on Trendon Shavers' situation? Anyone trying to pool resources for legal action?
Meh, I sure missed the drama in Bitcoinworld. Now, back to my books... Cry

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October 21, 2012, 03:27:31 PM
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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.
which will turn into the end of the month...

Did I miss something? what happens on the 12th?
on the 17th of september pirate said the earliest he could pay out was october 12th...there are some paste bin links in the thread list...

And Surprise Surprise, it's the 20th and nothing's happened.

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https://btcst.com/ is down now.

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October 22, 2012, 02:08:45 AM
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Everyone is waiting for the 12th.

How's that purchase of pirate debt working out for you? Also are you still holding your breath? ROFL!

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October 24, 2012, 02:13:41 PM
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He has 5 Million and will just buy a better lawyer and your BTC is and cash is gone..
He has money now he can just buy his way out. You know, the american way.

Again LOL. Tools leave money at BTC site. BTC vanished. HOLY CRIST this place if full of idiots.
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Think about it... This was a ponzi scheme. do you think he has 5 million bucks after paying back early depositors.. Buying his wife tits and just living off of you guys.. He probably has something like 50 grand remaining.


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October 24, 2012, 02:46:22 PM
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Think about it... This was a ponzi scheme. do you think he has 5 million bucks after paying back early depositors.. Buying his wife tits and just living off of you guys.. He probably has something like 50 grand remaining.


IF that.

He has at least 50k btc in his possession, I know that with near certainty.
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Okay? ^ that's still only 10% of 5mil...




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He has at least 50k btc in his possession, I know that with near certainty.

And how do you know this? 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM has been pretty much shown to be the Silk Road and it appears that pirate was simply selling coins as they came in in order to buy Zeek Rewards. I doubt he has a bitcent.
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Guys,

We have a new Get Trendon Thread here.  If you have any verified information please post here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.new#new

Trendon is clearly thriving on all this FUD and confusion by all this speculation and infighting.

The other thread will be a repository of verified information so his creditors and the SEC will know who to pursue.

Even his partners and anyone who he does business with in he future with is not liable.

He's a toxic asset.



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October 24, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
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He has 5 Million and will just buy a better lawyer and your BTC is and cash is gone..

There's also never been any evidence provided of him being given 500k BTC.  As far as I can tell, when people trot out the USD 5 million figure they're talking about what they believe he "owes" including compounded interest, not the principal they "invested" with him less any payments they received.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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November 03, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
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We know that many people outside the bitcoin commuinty are following these Trendon Shaver threads.  Thank you for you assistance so far.

We have another request.

Trendon Shavers my have been in the past or currently using assumed names or an alias.  If you have seen or know this guy and know him by a name other then Trendon Shavors we'd like to hear from you.

http://trendonshavers.com/
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November 03, 2012, 05:36:50 PM
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He has 5 Million and will just buy a better lawyer and your BTC is and cash is gone..

There's also never been any evidence provided of him being given 500k BTC.  As far as I can tell, when people trot out the USD 5 million figure they're talking about what they believe he "owes" including compounded interest, not the principal they "invested" with him less any payments they received.
IIRC the 500k figure is based off of some BS he threw out on IRC. I never saw any additional evidence. If there wasn't any, then it does seem pretty ridiculous to take this one thing at face value, out of the thousands of lines of bullshit this guy spewed.
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November 03, 2012, 05:41:51 PM
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unverified anecdotal evidence suggests Trendon Shavers has secured and is in control of $1M USD in hard assets and is slowing cashing out and additional $500,000 worth of BTC.

I believe the $5M USD figure was based on interest income due on the actual principal investments which we now know never existed.
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November 04, 2012, 03:36:56 PM
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unverified anecdotal evidence suggests Trendon Shavers has secured and is in control of $1M USD in hard assets and is slowing cashing out and additional $500,000 worth of BTC.

I believe the $5M USD figure was based on interest income due on the actual principal investments which we now know never existed.


Thanks, I love "unverified anecdotal evidence".
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November 20, 2012, 01:05:22 AM
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If you know Trendon Shavers (www.trendonshavers.com) and you know the make and model of the brand new BMW or the F550 truck he recently purchased on any other assets he has,  you might want to let the IRS know about it.  Any assets Trendon Shavors has or controls could only have been purchased with fraudulent income from his Bitcoin Securities Ponzi scheme.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf
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November 20, 2012, 08:23:46 AM
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IIRC the 500k figure is based off of some BS he threw out on IRC. I never saw any additional evidence. If there wasn't any, then it does seem pretty ridiculous to take this one thing at face value, out of the thousands of lines of bullshit this guy spewed.

You are correct: it is an estimated figure of his total liabilities. It does not mean that he received that much in cash, nor that he has that much on balance. Simply adding the (estimate) of what all people could claim against him comes to about that. This "about" is by no means a precise figure, more like "The actual figure is closer to 500k than 100k." The best way to use that number would be "no more than 500k."

unverified anecdotal evidence suggests Trendon Shavers has secured and is in control of $1M USD in hard assets and is slowing cashing out and additional $500,000 worth of BTC.

I believe the $5M USD figure was based on interest income due on the actual principal investments which we now know never existed.


As best I can tell all that evidence has a single source, which is you. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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ALL COINS ARE GONE

candoo,

Is that an opinion or did you in fact purchase all of Trendon Shavors BTC?
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Thanks for the verification Smoothie.  Coming from you we now know we can disregard the comment entirely.
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Thanks for the verification Smoothie.  Coming from you we now know we can disregard the comment entirely.

This coming from the guy who was trying to backup Goat? lol  Cheesy Cheesy

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Thanks for the verification Smoothie.  Coming from you we now know we can disregard the comment entirely.

This coming from the guy who was trying to backup Goat? lol  Cheesy Cheesy


Says the most ignored person on this forum.

You always get your facts wrong. I'm the third most ignored person on this forum. You fail once again budandrewbud lol Cheesy

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If you know Trendon Shavers (www.trendonshavers.com) and you know the make and model of the brand new BMW or the F550 truck he recently purchased...

Yes BCB I have some information on that.

The make of his brand new BMW is "BMW"

The make of his F550 truck is "Ford" and the model is "F550"

I hope that's helpful.
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If you know Trendon Shavers (www.trendonshavers.com) and you know the make and model of the brand new BMW or the F550 truck he recently purchased...

Yes BCB I have some information on that.

The make of his brand new BMW is "BMW"

The make of his F550 truck is "Ford" and the model is "F550"

I hope that's helpful.


That's a good one Smiley You could have said Ford Super Duty F550


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Please see my thread here for tons of info (including the exact information on BOTH his vehicles):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321
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The most ignored person on this forum is Zyk !!.....who has been banned for half a year...so all thiefs could get away scott free..............

But now he is right back for a banning revanche Grin

At least there was enough in the silencing jack-pot of real world....that was well worth the ban Cheesy

Cheers Zyk

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