BFL SC / Jally first picture?

[cablepair]

New landing page: http://www.butterflylabs.com/landing/

alt="Butterflylabs Great Shot" hah.

Not sure if supposed to be public? :>

Looks like a single?

deceptive marketing

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[yochdog]

New landing page: http://www.butterflylabs.com/landing/

alt="Butterflylabs Great Shot" hah.

Not sure if supposed to be public? :>

Looks like a single?

deceptive marketing

I am SHOCKED they would engage is deceptive tactics. 

Literally NOTHING they have done to this point would lead me to think they could do such things!

[ice_chill]

1) If you go to http://www.butterflylabs.com/ there is no official link to the page being discussed here, so it could be experimental, in which case it's non-existant as far as customer is concerned.

2) How do you know the ASIC PCB is not the same as the FPGA PCB ? you don't so you have no grounds to call it deceptive.

[HDSolar]

1) If you go to http://www.butterflylabs.com/ there is no official link to the page being discussed here, so it could be experimental, in which case it's non-existant as far as customer is concerned.

2) How do you know the ASIC PCB is not the same as the FPGA PCB ? you don't so you have no grounds to call it deceptive.

I agree, this looks to me like a marketing idea page and the photo is just an idea or place holder.  I think it was just put out on here to show that BFL is thinking of stuff while they get things going and not something to be deceptive.  I thought it was a nice idea to show us something and who knows maybe the ASIC platform will pull allot from the FPGA.  Again happy to see that BFL is still moving forward and that something (even a marketing page) has come out. 

Wow sensitive group,

[P_Shep]

Wow sensitive group,

Collective heavy flow day.

Poor things.

[freeAgent]

deceptive marketing

Come on now, the page isn't publicly linked to from anywhere and it's still being worked on (see my post on noticing the added '$' on the MiniRig price).  BFL_Josh retracted his unsubstantiated statements regarding the performance of your ASIC devices compared to BFL's.  You could have the same courtesy and not sling mud.

[MXRider]

Dollar sign fixed, looks like someone is still working on the page so I wouldn't judge them, yet.

[MrTeal]

1) If you go to http://www.butterflylabs.com/ there is no official link to the page being discussed here, so it could be experimental, in which case it's non-existant as far as customer is concerned.

2) How do you know the ASIC PCB is not the same as the FPGA PCB ? you don't so you have no grounds to call it deceptive.

2) Common sense.

[ice_chill]

2) Common sense.

I said know not assume

[MrTeal]

2) Common sense.

I said know not assume

How do you know the PCB of your iPhone is different than your desktop motherboard? Have you ever opened them up to look at them?

[ice_chill]

2) Common sense.

I said know not assume

How do you know the PCB of your iPhone is different than your desktop motherboard? Have you ever opened them up to look at them?

Because they are manufactured by different companies, and the cases are completely different

[MrTeal]

2) Common sense.

I said know not assume

How do you know the PCB of your iPhone is different than your desktop motherboard? Have you ever opened them up to look at them?

Because they are manufactured by different companies, and the cases are completely different

But you don't know, you're just assuming.


The entire idea that the PCB is reused is retarded. It would imply a ridiculous number of sacrifices and inefficiencies for almost no benefit. Now, they might be able to design the new PCB so that they can use the same cooling and cases which would produce a very similar looking board, but I will place a 200BTC escrowed bet against your 20BTC that the PCB isn't exactly the same between the two, if you're interested.

[yochdog]

2) Common sense.

I said know not assume

How do you know the PCB of your iPhone is different than your desktop motherboard? Have you ever opened them up to look at them?

Because they are manufactured by different companies, and the cases are completely different

But you don't know, you're just assuming.


The entire idea that the PCB is reused is retarded. It would imply a ridiculous number of sacrifices and inefficiencies for almost no benefit. Now, they might be able to design the new PCB so that they can use the same cooling and cases which would produce a very similar looking board, but I will place a 200BTC escrowed bet against your 20BTC that the PCB isn't exactly the same between the two, if you're interested.

I will hold the bets and act as escrow agent. 

[psilan]

It's my thread, I will. But I will charge 220BTC.

[bigasic]

Look at the FAQ page. It gives the dimensions of the SC single, I believe its the exact same dimensions as the revision 3. 4x 4x 3, I believe..

They also state that they will try to put together as many machines as possible to be sent out at once. So, the first shipment will most likely be the first of November.. They also clarified their 1/3 rule for the first month orders...

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[aqrulesms]

They used the picture of an FPGA single because they want people to believe they have a working product and for people to order the product, when they probably have NOTHING done at all yet.

I bet they won't even come up with a working product, and rather run with everyone's BTC and money and all trade ins.

Isn't that a smart idea for a scammer?  Get people to trust them by shipping out FPGAs that are working, pretend they have an ASIC coming and wait for the trade ins and just run?

We've already seen it.  They're deceptive and trying to trick people. 

They really probably don't even have the investment capital to fully design and develop an ASIC.  It's a joke.

So unless they really come out this is what my thoughts are.  Don't pre order unless you can find a WORKING product.  There's no guarantees they will follow through with it, and we have absolutely no proof they are working on the product, no pictures or anything.

[CJGoodings]

They used the picture of an FPGA single because they want people to believe they have a working product and for people to order the product, when they probably have NOTHING done at all yet.

I bet they won't even come up with a working product, and rather run with everyone's BTC and money and all trade ins.

Isn't that a smart idea for a scammer?  Get people to trust them by shipping out FPGAs that are working, pretend they have an ASIC coming and wait for the trade ins and just run?

We've already seen it.  They're deceptive and trying to trick people. 

They really probably don't even have the investment capital to fully design and develop an ASIC.  It's a joke.

So unless they really come out this is what my thoughts are.  Don't pre order unless you can find a WORKING product.  There's no guarantees they will follow through with it, and we have absolutely no proof they are working on the product, no pictures or anything.

This is what people have been saying since the begining, all these supposed ASIC sellers are full of shit.

[aqrulesms]

They used the picture of an FPGA single because they want people to believe they have a working product and for people to order the product, when they probably have NOTHING done at all yet.

I bet they won't even come up with a working product, and rather run with everyone's BTC and money and all trade ins.

Isn't that a smart idea for a scammer?  Get people to trust them by shipping out FPGAs that are working, pretend they have an ASIC coming and wait for the trade ins and just run?

We've already seen it.  They're deceptive and trying to trick people. 

They really probably don't even have the investment capital to fully design and develop an ASIC.  It's a joke.

So unless they really come out this is what my thoughts are.  Don't pre order unless you can find a WORKING product.  There's no guarantees they will follow through with it, and we have absolutely no proof they are working on the product, no pictures or anything.

This is what people have been saying since the begining, all these supposed ASIC sellers are full of shit.

Yep, so I'll just continue with actual working products, such as GPUs and FPGAs.  Those are existant, ASICs for bitcoins are not physically existant at the moment.

[CJGoodings]

For those of you who are concerned about the recent rise in difficulty, you wont have to worry for long. As soon as the trade-ins are lifted and BFL (and cablepair) disappears into the mist, hash power will drop right back down to the pre-FPGA days.

[crazyates]

LOL you two crack me up!