Move 4 Less

[BrightAnarchist]

Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.

Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam

BA out

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[greyhawk]

Waaaaaaait just a minute.

Move4Less?

I read about them just a few days ago while doxxing a forum scammer.

Pretty sure this was in relation to the firstladysomethingsomething scam.

[Mushoz]

Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.

Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam

BA out

Sue those bastards =/ Can't believe how many assholes live on this planet. Sorry to hear this, BA

[Littleshop]

Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.

Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam

BA out

I am not sure I would ever want to hire a mover after the stories I have heard.  Someone I know had a similar situation except that the added charge was several thousand and only disclosed at the endpoint of the move.  The 'extra' had to be in CASH and when it was not they left with the load and did not come back until they were assured the money.  Police were called and would do nothing because it was a contract matter even though the fee was no where in the contract.  The movers added more charges due to the police call and left a second time.   They got away with at least $5000 in extra charges paid in cash at the end. 

[Raize]

That's weird, I've never had problems with Two Guys and a Truck. Maybe it's just certain companies in this industry?

[stochastic]

Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.

Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam

BA out

Did they pack up your guns too?

[Fjordbit]

That's weird, I've never had problems with Two Guys and a Truck. Maybe it's just certain companies in this industry?

I also haven't had problems with Two Guys and a Truck, but something weird happened once when using them. The morning of one of my moves, a competitor (Father and Sons) showed up 3 hours earlier than our appointed time at noon. So, at first I thought they were subcontracted, but I questioned the guys and they eventually admitted that there was no business relation. Somehow, they had gotten the info on my moving and tried to scoop Two Guys. Really fucking shady.

Two Guys showed up at noon as we agreed.

[CJGoodings]

Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.

Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam

BA out

I am not sure I would ever want to hire a mover after the stories I have heard.  Someone I know had a similar situation except that the added charge was several thousand and only disclosed at the endpoint of the move.  The 'extra' had to be in CASH and when it was not they left with the load and did not come back until they were assured the money.  Police were called and would do nothing because it was a contract matter even though the fee was no where in the contract.  The movers added more charges due to the police call and left a second time.   They got away with at least $5000 in extra charges paid in cash at the end.  

Wouldnt be surprised if local police departments were in on it. Allow this sort of scum to continue to operate for a certain percentage taxed. I know situations like this do occur quite often some of the larger cities between police and certain high profile dealers involving drugs; charged anywhere between 10-40% of the take.

[LoupGaroux]

One can only hope that you paid these scumbags with a credit card and you have reversed the charges since they did not charge you what you contracted for (and you have a copy of that written contract to back you up?) Seizing your belongings and threatening to sell them is illegal- they would have to prefer a lien against those assets for charges which they would need to prove to a judge were valid and in compliance with your contract. Once a lien was perfected they would have to go through a process to enforce that lien against the goods, and there would be at least 90 days of mandated waiting time, if they found a crooked judge to find in their favor on the basis of a fraudulent contract.

Then, if you had not satisfied the lien, they could move for seizure of the assets, and move for a liquidation, which in most cases would have to be done by a Sheriff at a public sale, where you would have the option of bidding on your own belongings. All costs associated with this would be borne by the moving company, and they cannot charge them against the value of your belongings.

Reverse the charges on your card, tell them to see you in Court when they get done screwing themselves- you will win, and your credit card company will do most of the fighting for you.

[Littleshop]

One can only hope that you paid these scumbags with a credit card and you have reversed the charges since they did not charge you what you contracted for (and you have a copy of that written contract to back you up?) Seizing your belongings and threatening to sell them is illegal- they would have to prefer a lien against those assets for charges which they would need to prove to a judge were valid and in compliance with your contract. Once a lien was perfected they would have to go through a process to enforce that lien against the goods, and there would be at least 90 days of mandated waiting time, if they found a crooked judge to find in their favor on the basis of a fraudulent contract.

Movers have a special advantage in many states called a carriers lien.  Since they already have the goods they technically do not need to seize them.  There may be waiting periods etc as you say though. 

I am not saying any of this is right, but movers sometimes have a huge advantage over the customer as the customer may need these items quickly or they may not be replaceable. 

The credit card is a good idea, as most of the bad companies that would do crap like this will not take a credit card. 

[LoupGaroux]

Legit business in the real world that won't accept credit cards for a multi-thousand dollar purchase (or even a multi-hundred dollar purchase...)? Better off to keep shopping around and find one that will, if they need it to be all cash at that level there is something hinky about the deal already.