ISIS reportedly gives away sex slaves as 'prizes' in Koran contest

[saddampbuh]

http://islamqa.info/en/94840[/url] and http://www.answering-christianity.com/equality.htm(optional).

It is by no means promoting slave sale. Qur'an told to either release slaves for free or by ransom. Here, slaves refer to war captives. Qur'an and Hadiths has also told to be righteous towards slaves and also the verses and hadiths tell about wedlock, not lust. "Ma malakat aymanuhum" is used in other verses too and it is not referring just to a slave or slaves. You should also note that it is not easy to forbid a bad thing in a second. For example, alcoholic drinks were brought down step by step. In the way is slavery. Also note that slaves where released for free by prophet and swahabas. In fact, at that time, attitude towards slaves were very bad and Islam give more rights to them.

“If any of you have a slave girl, whom he gives good education and excellent training, and then he emancipates her and marries her, he shall have a two-fold reward.” - Al-Bukhari.

The Prophet said, "Your servants and your slaves are your brothers. Anyone who has slaves should give them from what he eats and wears. He should not charge them with work beyond their capabilities. If you must set them to hard work, in any case, I advise you to help them" - Al-Bukhari.

FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6
"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."
 
            Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.
 
 
 
FROM THE QURAN - 4:24
"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the Quran).
 
 
            This verse is one verse out of a long passage dealing with who Muslim men can marry or have sexual relations with. The phrase "captives whom your right hand possess", means the slave girls Muslim men own.
            Note also that this passage deals with more than just marriage.  In Sahih Muslim volume 2, #3432, the background context for this Quranic verse is given.  It relates to the events at Autus, and it permitted the Muslim men to have sex with their female slaves.
 
 
 
FROM THE QURAN - 33:50
"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..."
 
 
            This verse is for Muhammad.  Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/femalecaptives.htm

[bryant.coleman]

ISIS is not Mushlim they just a crazy people do what they wanna do with mask religion and i think every mushlim hate ISIS too

If ISIS is not Muslim, what they are? I have seen Muslims taking out protest marches against several issues, such as to protest the banning of headscarves, discrimination in jobs.etc. But I am yet to see Muslims taking out a protest march against the atrocities of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

[Muhammed Zakir]

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4:23 - “Prohibited to you (for marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-   

4:24 - “Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.”

4:25 - “If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”

33:50 - “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

Here, 'lawful' means 'wedlock by law' not 'lust by law'.

[DLCseller]

ISIS is not Mushlim they just a crazy people do what they wanna do with mask religion and i think every mushlim hate ISIS too

ISIS is not Islamic confirmed. Islam is the religion of peace. ISIS maybe have to do with Illuminati.

[Falconer]

ISIS is not Mushlim they just a crazy people do what they wanna do with mask religion and i think every mushlim hate ISIS too

ISIS is not Islamic confirmed. Islam is the religion of peace. ISIS maybe have to do with Illuminati.

I think all of religions teach us to live peacefully. The problem is, there were some religious people became radicals because they did misinterpretations in their religions, or maybe they became a fanatic, and assume that other religions is wrong.

[reyhiesa]

ISIS is not Mushlim they just a crazy people do what they wanna do with mask religion and i think every mushlim hate ISIS too

ISIS is not Islamic confirmed. Islam is the religion of peace. ISIS maybe have to do with Illuminati.

I think all of religions teach us to live peacefully. The problem is, there were some religious people became radicals because they did misinterpretations in their religions, or maybe they became a fanatic, and assume that other religions is wrong.

If you go by the holy books of Islam or Christianity, no they don't teach us to live peacefully. You have beautiful parts there, where you could get that message. But you also have parts where it says you should kill or enslave everyone that disagrees with your religion. As for the fanatics, I think religion is often only a cover they use. Consciously or otherwise. The root of the problem is political and economical.

[bryant.coleman]

ISIS is not Islamic confirmed. Islam is the religion of peace. ISIS maybe have to do with Illuminati.

Not only Islam, but also other religions, such as Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Bahaism and Sikhism call themselves as the religions of peace. But from my experience, a religion can't bring peace or prosperity to anywhere in the world. Religion has killed more people in the history of humankind, than any other ideology or catastrophe.

[DLCseller]

ISIS is not Islamic confirmed. Islam is the religion of peace. ISIS maybe have to do with Illuminati.

Not only Islam, but also other religions, such as Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Bahaism and Sikhism call themselves as the religions of peace. But from my experience, a religion can't bring peace or prosperity to anywhere in the world. Religion has killed more people in the history of humankind, than any other ideology or catastrophe.

Religion can't kill someone. Its the people. Its the humans.

[Falconer]

If you go by the holy books of Islam or Christianity, no they don't teach us to live peacefully. You have beautiful parts there, where you could get that message. But you also have parts where it says you should kill or enslave everyone that disagrees with your religion. As for the fanatics, I think religion is often only a cover they use. Consciously or otherwise. The root of the problem is political and economical.

I think you just focused on kill and slave parts in holy book. So, in your opinion, what should religion teach us then? Fanatics are religious people who misinterpreted what the religion is. They don't have any intention to kill, they just want to obey God rules in their ways. But, there were some retarded people who ruined religion and make terrorist actions in the world.

[reyhiesa]

If you go by the holy books of Islam or Christianity, no they don't teach us to live peacefully. You have beautiful parts there, where you could get that message. But you also have parts where it says you should kill or enslave everyone that disagrees with your religion. As for the fanatics, I think religion is often only a cover they use. Consciously or otherwise. The root of the problem is political and economical.

I think you just focused on kill and slave parts in holy book. So, in your opinion, what should religion teach us then? Fanatics are religious people who misinterpreted what the religion is. They don't have any intention to kill, they just want to obey God rules in their ways. But, there were some retarded people who ruined religion and make terrorist actions in the world.

I didn't focus on the bad parts only. What I said is those books have both good and bad parts. Most people ignore the parts they don't like and go along with what they do like. Fanatics are no different. They just pick the other parts to justify their actions. But I still think most of their actions are based on the situations they're in, not religion itself.

[jeffthebaker]

I think they are cruelest than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combined.

ISIS is awful but they are not on par with any of these individuals, let alone combined.

[Beliathon]

Hmm, I wonder if this means 4chan will adopt Islam as official religion.

[Falconer]

I didn't focus on the bad parts only. What I said is those books have both good and bad parts. Most people ignore the parts they don't like and go along with what they do like. Fanatics are no different. They just pick the other parts to justify their actions. But I still think most of their actions are based on the situations they're in, not religion itself.

I don't think they ignore it. In my opinion, the bad part was made in holy book to tell us the conditions in ancient age, which it was be solved by a prophet then. I'm curious, what is your religion? And can you tell me what the bad parts in your holy book?

I think they are cruelest than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combined.

ISIS is awful but they are not on par with any of these individuals, let alone combined.

What about Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

[bryant.coleman]

What about Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

What if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a puppet obeying the orders of CIA and Mossad?

Fanatics are religious people who misinterpreted what the religion is.

No. If you study the Abrahamic religions closely, then you can find that the ultimate aim is to increase the number of adherents by any means possible. The tactics which are currently being employed by the Islamic State does have eerie resemblance to the same employed by the Spanish conquistadors, when they discovered the Americas. Why go back to the 15th century? The Christian terrorist organization New Tribes Mission uses similar tactics even now, to get new converts.

[reyhiesa]

I didn't focus on the bad parts only. What I said is those books have both good and bad parts. Most people ignore the parts they don't like and go along with what they do like. Fanatics are no different. They just pick the other parts to justify their actions. But I still think most of their actions are based on the situations they're in, not religion itself.

I don't think they ignore it. In my opinion, the bad part was made in holy book to tell us the conditions in ancient age, which it was be solved by a prophet then. I'm curious, what is your religion? And can you tell me what the bad parts in your holy book?

I'm not a religious person. I don't believe in any of it. But those bad parts aren't there only to tell people about the conditions in antiquity. Many are guidelines on how you should live your life. If you're Christian, you have a lot of bad parts in the new testament for example: slavery, murder, oppression of women, revenge, etc, etc.

[Falconer]

What if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a puppet obeying the orders of CIA and Mossad?

Do you really believe they are behind ISIS?

No. If you study the Abrahamic religions closely, then you can find that the ultimate aim is to increase the number of adherents by any means possible. The tactics which are currently being employed by the Islamic State does have eerie resemblance to the same employed by the Spanish conquistadors, when they discovered the Americas. Why go back to the 15th century? The Christian terrorist organization New Tribes Mission uses similar tactics even now, to get new converts.

Do you think Abraham teach us to increase the number of adherents with violation?

I'm not a religious person. I don't believe in any of it. But those bad parts aren't there only to tell people about the conditions in antiquity. Many are guidelines on how you should live your life. If you're Christian, you have a lot of bad parts in the new testament for example: slavery, murder, oppression of women, revenge, etc, etc.

Then do you think in new testament Jesus teach us to do murder, slavery, etc.?

[reyhiesa]

I'm not a religious person. I don't believe in any of it. But those bad parts aren't there only to tell people about the conditions in antiquity. Many are guidelines on how you should live your life. If you're Christian, you have a lot of bad parts in the new testament for example: slavery, murder, oppression of women, revenge, etc, etc.

Then do you think in new testament Jesus teach us to do murder, slavery, etc.?

You can't ignore that those are there too. Jesus makes it clear that the laws of the old testament are still valid for one. Like killing your child if she disobeys you. As for slavery for example, he doesn't oppose it. Anywhere that I know of. Even though he had plenty of opportunity to. Slaves, or servants as the English translation of the bible calls them, are even told to obey their masters as they would god or Christ. Women are told to be submissive to their husbands as to god. They aren't allowed to teach or have any authority over men. In fact men touching women are considered to be defiling themselves. There's a lot of ugly stuff in there.

[bryant.coleman]

Do you really believe they are behind ISIS?

I have my doubts. Why is the ISIS refraining from attacking Israel?

Do you think Abraham teach us to increase the number of adherents with violation?

I don’t care what Abraham or Jesus or Mohammed said. But the fact is that their followers do try to increase the number of adherents by any means possible.

[Falconer]

You can't ignore that those are there too. Jesus makes it clear that the laws of the old testament are still valid for one. Like killing your child if she disobeys you. As for slavery for example, he doesn't oppose it. Anywhere that I know of. Even though he had plenty of opportunity to. Slaves, or servants as the English translation of the bible calls them, are even told to obey their masters as they would god or Christ. Women are told to be submissive to their husbands as to god. They aren't allowed to teach or have any authority over men. In fact men touching women are considered to be defiling themselves. There's a lot of ugly stuff in there.

Can you tell me the verses?

I have my doubts. Why is the ISIS refraining from attacking Israel?

I think ISIS are 'clever'. They know that they haven't ready to attack Israel for now.

I don’t care what Abraham or Jesus or Mohammed said. But the fact is that their followers do try to increase the number of adherents by any means possible.

From your words, then I conclude that their followers are misinterpreting Abraham doctrines.

[reyhiesa]

You can't ignore that those are there too. Jesus makes it clear that the laws of the old testament are still valid for one. Like killing your child if she disobeys you. As for slavery for example, he doesn't oppose it. Anywhere that I know of. Even though he had plenty of opportunity to. Slaves, or servants as the English translation of the bible calls them, are even told to obey their masters as they would god or Christ. Women are told to be submissive to their husbands as to god. They aren't allowed to teach or have any authority over men. In fact men touching women are considered to be defiling themselves. There's a lot of ugly stuff in there.

Can you tell me the verses?

They aren't very hard to find if you search. But a few quick examples:

Jesus' support for the rules of the old testament: Mark 7:10, Luke 16:17, Matthew 5:18-19
Support for slavery: Colossians 3:22, Luke 12:47-48
On women: Colossians 3:18, 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-15