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September 18, 2012, 07:34:37 PM
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That's a nice looking webpage you got there.  Be a real shame if anything was to happen to it.

Send the bitcoins to 1B6MKB2MqY5LpM66fz4WJAeoer6ELGVGTx and nobody gets hurt.

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Hmm, doesn't sound very intimidating.  Why would cybercriminals target such a tiny place anyway?  Is DDOS that cheap nowadays?  Hmmm....

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September 18, 2012, 08:10:36 PM
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When somebody is DDOSING with his botnet he will likely loose a lot of bots.
So i would think, its not a thread at all, maybe for a few days or weeks but a botnet operator would need to be sure to be compensated to move these resources.
Guess, there are hundreds of ways for a botnet owner to monetize.


As a pool operator its much more important to care about the server security and the latest 0days, for example the plesk 0day a month ago or so was really ugly.


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September 18, 2012, 08:35:55 PM
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Would it solve DDoS threats to put all services in Tor? Isn't it kinda DoS-proof?
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September 18, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
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Would it solve DDoS threats to put all services in Tor? Isn't it kinda DoS-proof?

Im not knowledgeable enough to give a concrete statement, but, if its hosted like silkroad for example the bots would probably need tor, so the botherder would need to install tor on them to be able to ddos as i understand it.
If thats correct the question should be is the tor network fast enough?
How much effort is it for a botherder to run tor on his bots?


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September 18, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
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https://www.eff.org/keeping-your-site-alive

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September 18, 2012, 09:16:50 PM
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So is bitpay still under attack and still down?

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September 18, 2012, 09:31:26 PM
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So is bitpay still under attack and still down?

It appears they are adding DDOS protection, they probably are creating a mirror right now.

I suggest everyone creates back-ups NOW, and start looking at DDOS protection.

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September 18, 2012, 09:35:55 PM
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Beside bulletproof hosting, there are also services like cloudflare, isnt that an option?

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September 18, 2012, 09:44:42 PM
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Beside bulletproof hosting, there are also services like cloudflare, isnt that an option?

I'd like to see a bulletproof web hosting servers created by and for the bitcoin community

I'd sign up!

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September 18, 2012, 09:52:53 PM
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BitPay is back. excellent work!

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September 18, 2012, 10:23:49 PM
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Not for me.

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September 18, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
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BitPay is back. excellent work!

the site should be up now.  Lets see if the attacker can get through Cloudflare this time.

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September 18, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
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BitPay is back. excellent work!

the site should be up now.  Lets see if the attacker can get through Cloudflare this time.


On another site i have read that they use cloudflare resolver to figure the real ip. I could gather such a tool if youre interested, however, could be a fake soft tough.

I really dont know soo much about this stuff but i find it very interesting as im about to launch a pool.
Just starting to read in this topic, intersting keywords too are cloud hosting, managed firewall and load balancer.

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September 18, 2012, 10:50:10 PM
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Seems like there is a demand for a "Protection Business" ... pay some regularly and you get security services for your site that may include things like unspecified counter-attacks against attackers and other black arts that could serve as deterrents against would-be threats.

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September 18, 2012, 10:51:51 PM
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BitPay is back. excellent work!

the site should be up now.  Lets see if the attacker can get through Cloudflare this time.


Nope. Doesn't work for me.

EDIT: works now.

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September 18, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
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Seems like there is a demand for a "Protection Business" ... pay some regularly and you get security services for your site that may include things like unspecified counter-attacks against attackers and other black arts that could serve as deterrents against would-be threats.

Is this a serious proposal??

In real world this pattern is known as racketeering: put a shop on fire and then offer protection to the threatened owner. Do we really want Bitcoinland go that route?
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September 18, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
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Seems like there is a demand for a "Protection Business" ... pay some regularly and you get security services for your site that may include things like unspecified counter-attacks against attackers and other black arts that could serve as deterrents against would-be threats.

Is this a serious proposal??

In real world this pattern is known as racketeering: put a shop on fire and then offer protection to the threatened owner. Do we really want Bitcoinland go that route?

Semi-serious. In the real world it is known as "advanced" policing or mafioso tactics ... take your pick.

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September 18, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
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Seems like there is a demand for a "Protection Business" ... pay some regularly and you get security services for your site that may include things like unspecified counter-attacks against attackers and other black arts that could serve as deterrents against would-be threats.

Is this a serious proposal??

In real world this pattern is known as racketeering: put a shop on fire and then offer protection to the threatened owner. Do we really want Bitcoinland go that route?

Semi-serious. In the real world it is known as "advanced" policing or mafioso tactics ... take your pick.

CloudFlare is free (http://www.cloudflare.com/)

i doubt you can compete with that...  Tongue

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September 18, 2012, 11:31:24 PM
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Seems like there is a demand for a "Protection Business" ... pay some regularly and you get security services for your site that may include things like unspecified counter-attacks against attackers and other black arts that could serve as deterrents against would-be threats.

Is this a serious proposal??

In real world this pattern is known as racketeering: put a shop on fire and then offer protection to the threatened owner. Do we really want Bitcoinland go that route?

Semi-serious. In the real world it is known as "advanced" policing or mafioso tactics ... take your pick.

CloudFlare is free (http://www.cloudflare.com/)

i doubt you can compete with that...  Tongue

Do they take bitcoin?  Cheesy

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September 18, 2012, 11:54:21 PM
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No one should ever pay a DDOS ransom. Eventually you can quell the attack with multiple solutions. DDOS is unsustainable and is a US Felony.

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