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June 26, 2015, 09:50:12 AM
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.5% fee at bitmixer.io seems a bit high though.  Shared Coin is free at Blockchain.info (it's working again).
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June 26, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
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You can use gambling/exchange site to mix your coins, but they will keep your data forever Sad
The best option is only BitMixer.io. I've tried it once, i hadn't any problem

You might want to read this article : The Essential Role of Mixing Services: BitMixer Processes 25K BTC per Month

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June 26, 2015, 12:26:51 PM
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You can use gambling/exchange site to mix your coins, but they will keep your data forever Sad
The best option is only BitMixer.io. I've tried it once, i hadn't any problem

You might want to read this article : The Essential Role of Mixing Services: BitMixer Processes 25K BTC per Month

Thank's nice article Smiley

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June 26, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
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In fact you only need to use any bitcoin website service that has a shared wallet. Exchanges might ask for you identifying, but there are enough other websites that doesnt and have a shared wallet.

If Bitmixer is trustworthy and reputable service then why forum staff declined them option to buy direct ad banner? It is just because mixers are generally considered as a 'dark service'?
Or there is something more behind it?

The exact reason is still unknown but we can speculate that it was rejected because it is a dark service. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=885362.0;all

DarkWallet is the only good implementation of CoinJoin which I know of but it was not successful.

What happened with DarkWallet?  I thought it was in alpha and moving along.

It is still in alpha stage. No 'major' development is there and also it was not very successful. If it reaches at least beta stage, we maybe able to see more users and we can start using it. But for now, ir is not really useful.

Hm... too bad. I thought it might become my next wallet. There was a study published some weeks ago that mentioned darkwallet is best for the privacy. It was on a level with armory. So its a pity that it looks like they died.
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June 28, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
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I always welcome new BTC mixers, as having more options is a good thing.  But, a 5% fee for small amounts (under 25 BTC) is very high.

bitmixer.io charges an amount that you can vary somewhat, but it comes in at roughly 0.7% or so.

SharedCoin (blockchain.info) comes in at around 0.5%, but they recently changed their system, I will have to look again.

I have used both bitmixer.io and Sharedcoin many times, they both are perfectly legitimate services that do as they promise (although SharedCoin is sometimes down).  They are not questionable at all.  Your fee of about EIGHT times as much as your competitors is likely to not attract too many customers...

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Did their service work as advertised?  Any problems?  Low taint?
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June 28, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
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I appreciate your feedback and I can understand the price is higher then other mixers advertised, but we are partnered with another mixing service and we already have amazing customers, but we don't have many people within the 0-25btc range because we have customers that use our service for 100+btc tumbling so we do accept smaller bitcoin amounts, but with customers having 100+btc they tend to focus on having that trust for a bigger fee and we already have a large list of customers that are based over the 100+btc range and not so many on the 0-25BTC so when we get more structure in that range we will lower the % down.
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June 28, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
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Exchange your bitcoins for darkcoin with ShapeShift.io then exchange darkcoin for bitcoin again, your bitcoin blockchain trace is lost.
But shapshift.io charges quite a hefty fee, no?  At least that's what I heard.  I've used bitmixer.io multiple times without a problem, simply for testing purposes. Smiley

Seems fair:

What’s your fee structure?

We don't have a set markup, as our rate next to adjust for depth and spread considerations on particular pairs and markets. This means the amount that ShapeShift makes on any particular transaction varies based on the current market conditions. Depends on the liquidity and spread of that particular market ShapeShift's fee usually falls in the range of about 0.5-1% or so.

https://shapeshift.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202585602-What-s-your-fee-structure-

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June 29, 2015, 02:52:33 AM
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bitmixer.io is the most reliable and most famous of bitmixers that i saw so far. and the famous part or the volume they handle every day is important to hide your tracks IMO.
the fees is reasonable , for the service they are offering.

can you leave your feedback of blockchain.info shared coin in here if you have used it?

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June 29, 2015, 08:42:14 AM
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Exchange your bitcoins for darkcoin with ShapeShift.io then exchange darkcoin for bitcoin again, your bitcoin blockchain trace is lost.
But shapshift.io charges quite a hefty fee, no?  At least that's what I heard.  I've used bitmixer.io multiple times without a problem, simply for testing purposes. Smiley

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What’s your fee structure?

We don't have a set markup, as our rate next to adjust for depth and spread considerations on particular pairs and markets. This means the amount that ShapeShift makes on any particular transaction varies based on the current market conditions. Depends on the liquidity and spread of that particular market ShapeShift's fee usually falls in the range of about 0.5-1% or so.

https://shapeshift.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202585602-What-s-your-fee-structure-

That's right, the fee is not too much and it is the best way of mixing the coins apart from using bitmixer.io which so far seems to be the reliable bit mixer out there.

 

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June 29, 2015, 10:40:34 AM
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I always was wondering who is using mixers. I mean if you don't do something illegal then exchanges shared wallets should be fine enough. So should i guess that that means mixers are used by scammers and others that need to hide from the law? I mean imagining normal people using it would mean a risk to the. They might get coins from some scam and when at one point tainting will be implemented, which might be possible with bitcoin-xt, then why risking having a connecting to these people and holding coins that "potentially" could get seized when your identity is found out.

Whats the use cases for normal users?

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June 30, 2015, 07:37:27 AM
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I always was wondering who is using mixers. I mean if you don't do something illegal then exchanges shared wallets should be fine enough. So should i guess that that means mixers are used by scammers and others that need to hide from the law? I mean imagining normal people using it would mean a risk to the. They might get coins from some scam and when at one point tainting will be implemented, which might be possible with bitcoin-xt, then why risking having a connecting to these people and holding coins that "potentially" could get seized when your identity is found out.

Whats the use cases for normal users?

I'm a normal user.  I'm even going to pay taxes on my BTC gains (not worth risking jail time).  I use Shared Coin so that everyone I send BTC to doesn't know my total balance.
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June 30, 2015, 07:38:18 AM
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SharedCoin (blockchain.info) comes in at around 0.5%, but they recently changed their system, I will have to look again.

I think it's just the miner's fee with Shared Coin.
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July 01, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
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I always was wondering who is using mixers. I mean if you don't do something illegal then exchanges shared wallets should be fine enough. So should i guess that that means mixers are used by scammers and others that need to hide from the law? I mean imagining normal people using it would mean a risk to the. They might get coins from some scam and when at one point tainting will be implemented, which might be possible with bitcoin-xt, then why risking having a connecting to these people and holding coins that "potentially" could get seized when your identity is found out.

Whats the use cases for normal users?

I'm a normal user.  I'm even going to pay taxes on my BTC gains (not worth risking jail time).  I use Shared Coin so that everyone I send BTC to doesn't know my total balance.

That's perfectly fine. In fact i do the same, with an exchange with low confirmations. No one can guess my other addresses that way. So why do you pay these high fees to get back coins coming form scams maybe?

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July 02, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
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I always was wondering who is using mixers. I mean if you don't do something illegal then exchanges shared wallets should be fine enough. So should i guess that that means mixers are used by scammers and others that need to hide from the law? I mean imagining normal people using it would mean a risk to the. They might get coins from some scam and when at one point tainting will be implemented, which might be possible with bitcoin-xt, then why risking having a connecting to these people and holding coins that "potentially" could get seized when your identity is found out.

Whats the use cases for normal users?

I'm a normal user.  I'm even going to pay taxes on my BTC gains (not worth risking jail time).  I use Shared Coin so that everyone I send BTC to doesn't know my total balance.

That's perfectly fine. In fact i do the same, with an exchange with low confirmations. No one can guess my other addresses that way. So why do you pay these high fees to get back coins coming form scams maybe?

Shared Coin doesn't have any fees besides the miner's fee.  But it's been down again for almost a week now and support says there is no ETA on fixing it.

Is there an exchange that is ideal for this?
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July 03, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
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I always was wondering who is using mixers. I mean if you don't do something illegal then exchanges shared wallets should be fine enough. So should i guess that that means mixers are used by scammers and others that need to hide from the law? I mean imagining normal people using it would mean a risk to the. They might get coins from some scam and when at one point tainting will be implemented, which might be possible with bitcoin-xt, then why risking having a connecting to these people and holding coins that "potentially" could get seized when your identity is found out.

Whats the use cases for normal users?

I'm a normal user.  I'm even going to pay taxes on my BTC gains (not worth risking jail time).  I use Shared Coin so that everyone I send BTC to doesn't know my total balance.

That's perfectly fine. In fact i do the same, with an exchange with low confirmations. No one can guess my other addresses that way. So why do you pay these high fees to get back coins coming form scams maybe?

Shared Coin doesn't have any fees besides the miner's fee.  But it's been down again for almost a week now and support says there is no ETA on fixing it.

Is there an exchange that is ideal for this?

Oh, i didn't realize it's not a mixer.

I use bitfinex. They only have 2 or 3 confirmations or so. But i don't remember if they need a verification. You can use poloniex too, they don't need a verification. But when you create an account, upload coins and instantly withdraw, then the system will hold your coins. Try to buy some coins, then cancel the order and when admin asks you then claim poloniex wasn't fast enough so you bought elsewhere. I'm not sure if it works the second time without problems.

But there are ways even without verification. Though you don't sound like you do illegal things so verification is no problem.

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