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[Lauda]

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[astrobitcoin]

you are saying that you created a bitcoin address from a wallet like electrum and then you find out that there are bitcoins on it?!

[Lauda]

I've created a new address using the latest Bitcoin Core client. A few seconds after I generated it, I went to blockchain.info and pasted it there.
The address that I linked is the one that I have generated today (minutes ago).

[DannyHamilton]

This seems very unlikely, however, there are a few scenarios where you could create a situation that would have this result.

Some questions:

Is this a brand new Bitcoin Core wallet that you just installed, or did you recover this wallet.dat from somewhere?  If you had recovered this wallet.dat from somewhere, then this address might have been used from the same wallet.dat AFTER the backup was created.  As such, when the backup was recovered, it is possible that the transaction was forgotten about.

Are you (or anyone else) using the same wallet.dat in multiple Bitcoin Core wallets?  If you created a copy of this wallet.dat and ran a second instance of the Bitcoin Core wallet on some other computer (or some other session on the same computer), then the other instance of the wallet may have pulled this address from its pool already, and now this instance is jsut getting around to pulling the same address from the address pool in the wallet.dat.

What operating system are you using, and what version of that operating system?  It is possible that the random number generator of the operating system that you are using is faulty (or compromised) and that it is not generating actual random numbers.  As such, if someone else is using the same faulty (or compromised) operating system, then they could generate the same address.

Are you certain that you copied and pasted the correct address?  Perhaps the copy failed, and you pasted a previous address that was still in your computer's clipboard.  If the address actually received bitcoins yesterday, then they should be added to your balance now.  Did the balance on the wallet increase?

Can you run:

Code:

listunspent

in the console of your Bitcoin Core wallet?  Does that address (and transaction ouput) show up there?

[yayayo]

I've created a new address using the latest Bitcoin Core client. A few seconds after I generated it, I went to blockchain.info and pasted it there.
The address that I linked is the one that I have generated today (minutes ago).

An address collision would be extremely unlikely...

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

ya.ya.yo!

[AgentofCoin]

I've created a new address using the latest Bitcoin Core client. A few seconds after I generated it, I went to blockchain.info and pasted it there.
The address that I linked is the one that I have generated today (minutes ago).

An address collision would be extremely unlikely...

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

ya.ya.yo!

It exists in blockr.io though.
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

[Lauda]

This seems very unlikely, however, there are a few scenarios where you could create a situation that would have this result.
-snip-

Actually about 3 months ago I used vanitygen to generate an address 1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD which I've used to sign a message for this account. So this is a pretty new wallet (time wise), and I've been using it pretty much every day.
Nobody is using the same wallet.dat, nor has anybody access to my computer or the files. Besides the wallet is encrypted.

I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit with the latest updates to date. Also for the record, I was able to extract the private key from that address (my balance did not increase even though the address has 0.179 BTC).

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

It exists in blockr.io though.
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

This is very strange. So basically we have 2 explorers that are showing the address with a balance and 1 that shows it without.

[kingcolex]

This seems very unlikely, however, there are a few scenarios where you could create a situation that would have this result.
-snip-

Actually about 3 months ago I used vanitygen to generate an address 1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD which I've used to sign a message for this account. So this is a pretty new wallet (time wise), and I've been using it pretty much every day.
Nobody is using the same wallet.dat, nor has anybody access to my computer or the files. Besides the wallet is encrypted.

I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit with the latest updates to date. Also for the record, I was able to extract the private key from that address (my balance did not increase even though the address has 0.179 BTC).

An address collision would be extremely unlikely...

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

ya.ya.yo!

Maybe those two explores are using the same method to extract the blockchain data and the method they are using is giving an error with that address. This is all a guess I am pretty caught off guard by this.
It exists in blockr.io though.
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

This is very strange. So basically we have 2 explorers that are showing the address with a balance and 1 that shows it without.

[DannyHamilton]

An address collision would be extremely unlikely...

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

ya.ya.yo!

It exists in blockr.io though.
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

This is very strange. So basically we have 2 explorers that are showing the address with a balance and 1 that shows it without.

This is not strange at all.

blockexplorer is not up to date.  If you look at their main page, the last block that they have processed is block #358999.  This transaction was confirmed in block #363102.

[Lauda]

Okay, I've verified that there is no copying mistake. I've verified multiple times and I'm going to try importing that address into another system using electrum.

-snip-
Are you certain that you copied and pasted the correct address?  Perhaps the copy failed, and you pasted a previous address that was still in your computer's clipboard.  If the address actually received bitcoins yesterday, then they should be added to your balance now.  Did the balance on the wallet increase?
Can you run:
in the console of your Bitcoin Core wallet?  Does that address (and transaction ouput) show up there?

This is not strange at all.

blockexplorer is not up to date.  If you look at their main page, the last block that they have processed is block #358999.  This transaction was confirmed in block #363102.

I did not check that.

[yayayo]

An address collision would be extremely unlikely...

The most reasonable assumption would be a bug on blockchain.info. This assumption is confirmed by using blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

ya.ya.yo!

It exists in blockr.io though.
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy

This is very strange. So basically we have 2 explorers that are showing the address with a balance and 1 that shows it without.

This is not strange at all.

blockexplorer is not up to date.  If you look at their main page, the last block that they have processed is block #358999.  This transaction was confirmed in block #363102.

Oh.. I didn't check this. In this case I have no idea what could be the reason...

But if it were an address collision... it would most definitely be a once-in-a-lifetime event.

ya.ya.yo!

[AgentofCoin]

This might be an extremely stupid question, but:
are you sure you did not generate this address yesterday and send that transaction?

[Lauda]

This might be an extremely stupid question, but:
are you sure you did not generate this address yesterday and send that transaction?

Well one can never be sure with his own memory but:
1) I do not recall using the wallet yesterday aside from sending a payment to someone
2) It doesn't show up in the transactions
3) I don't recognize the address that sent the Bitcoins to this one either; 


Also I was able to successfully import the address into Electrum and the balance has showed up.

[AgentofCoin]

This might be an extremely stupid question, but:
are you sure you did not generate this address yesterday and send that transaction?

Well one can never be sure with his own memory but:
1) I do not recall using the wallet yesterday
2) It doesn't show up in the transactions
3) I don't recognize the address that sent the Bitcoins to this one either


Also I was able to successfully import the address into Electrum and the balance  has showed up.

Just had to ask, before the experts come in and start analyzing your wallet program.

It is just too weird that it (the suspect address) was just used yesterday. That's why I think it is not a collision.

Edit: added (the suspect address)

[DannyHamilton]

Can you please run:

Code:

dumpprivkey 1A6oHPNxfwbD897u9k5ehUrcGYLJzn8YFX

And see if your wallet has the private key for that address?

DO NOT SHARE the private key with ANYBODY, just let us know if the wallet finds one or not.

[kingcolex]

This might be an extremely stupid question, but:
are you sure you did not generate this address yesterday and send that transaction?

Well one can never be sure with his own memory but:
1) I do not recall using the wallet yesterday aside from sending a payment to someone
2) It doesn't show up in the transactions
3) I don't recognize the address that sent the Bitcoins to this one either


Also I was able to successfully import the address into Electrum and the balance has showed up.

What version of electrum Core are you using and possibly they have a bad generation method going on that needs to be updated and fixed asap? Maybe a bug slipped by, I just can't see a random collision especially this early in bitcoins life and the recent activity.

You said the latest but that does include beta builds?

Looks like Bitcoin.org has Latest version: 0.10.2
and github has 0.11

Which one are you using?

[DannyHamilton]

By the way, in the future when you want to assistance with something like this, I suggest that you create a "self-moderated" thread.  That way you can keep the conversation on track and delete all the nonsense posts from people that aren't paying attention to what you are saying.

[Lauda]

By the way, in the future when you want to assistance with something like this, I suggest that you create a "self-moderated" thread.  That way you can keep the conversation on track and delete all the nonsense posts from people that aren't paying attention to what you are saying.

I've realized that a bit too late.

Code:

dumpprivkey 1A6oHPNxfwbD897u9k5ehUrcGYLJzn8YFX

Well I've posted without doing enough research myself, unfortunately. That address is mine, and I've just realized this. I'm the one that sent the 0.12 BTC last night, however the times do not match because of time zones (probably) and that got me confused.
However, this still doesn't explain why the 0.179 went to an address that I've generated 1 hour ago? Could there be a bug in Bitcoin Core so that it had stopped showing the address temporarily or while upgrading from 0.9.x to 0.10.2?

This rules out an address collision.

[kingcolex]

By the way, in the future when you want to assistance with something like this, I suggest that you create a "self-moderated" thread.  That way you can keep the conversation on track and delete all the nonsense posts from people that aren't paying attention to what you are saying.

I've realized that a bit too late.

Code:

dumpprivkey 1A6oHPNxfwbD897u9k5ehUrcGYLJzn8YFX

Well I've posted without doing enough research myself, unfortunately. That address is mine, and I've just realized this. I'm the one that sent the 0.12 BTC last night, however the times do not match because of time zones (probably) and that got me confused.
However, this still doesn't explain why the 0.179 went to an address that I've generated 1 hour ago?

This rules out an address collision.

So if you sent the coin last night, what address did you send it to? Since the current address was just generated 1 hour ago? What happened to last nights transaction, is it on the blockchain?

[Lauda]

So if you sent the coin last night, what address did you send it to? Since the current address was just generated 1 hour ago? What happened to last nights transaction, is it on the blockchain?

I guess emotions made me make a thread before actually doing enough research myself. I could have spared others some time, I'm sorry.

Essentially the remaining balance last night went to: https://blockchain.info/address/13EQZzdrBdHciQSg8bGfNr2YnTV9H1Bjmy
however, I have generated that address about 1 hour and 10 minutes ago.