[Closing: Last Call] Accepting BTC and LTC for surplus technology

[capn noe]

This is a shame. If I was in the US I would buy stuff from your store with BTC.

Surprisingly, I had numerous offers to buy international but the shipping cost kinda requires a LARGE order to make it worth while. If I could international ship cheaply I'm positive I would have closed on at least 3 orders.

Final inventory of Military Surplus : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ak5VzRuCSag2dEtSSXBOaVEyT3JKNHBNTnpnZzlXU3c&output=html

[Rinnosuke]

By any chance do you have any 20 inch widescreen LCDs? I'd prefer acer x203H if you have it but any others would be fine.

[Rassah]

Seller is a SomethingAwful goon, so there's a high chance of trolling or trying to scam. Add him to your list off possible scamers and ignore him please
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=146#post408053807

[thebaron]

Seller is a SomethingAwful goon, so there's a high chance of trolling or trying to scam. Add him to your list off possible scamers and ignore him please
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=146#post408053807

A troll or scammer? Don't think so, and you seem like an asshole for trying to make those accusations. He seems to be expressing the same frustrations I feel dealing with the community of "clearnet" BTC users.

Then again he's trying to market items, the bulk of which is obsolete and priced above the current going rate elsewhere, to a tiny potential BTC customer base. And the reality is that it's very tough to profitably sell late-model tech online (ebay, etc), even if you're getting paid to dispose of it. I had to give up doing it in bulk 10 years ago. Too much competition and not enough buyers, so the prices fall quickly. If anything, you have to focus on the cream of the crop. It's frustrating wading through a "catalog" website that only has maybe 5% of it's inventory that's actually appealing to potential buyers out there. If I was the OP and I had stuff like that coming in constantly and wanted to sell the stuff that's not popular online, I would focus my efforts into opening a thrift/surplus store type of operation with low pricing so you could turn over as much stuff as possible. Then again, it might be cheaper just to recycle or throw it out these days.

I'm saying that while BTC-spending buyers here can be extremely demanding, it's mostly the fact that there's hardly anyone domestically who's interested in buying the OP's stuff period. And the people who can market this kind of stuff in other countries, who don't find 5 year-old technology so disposable, understandably want it as close to free as possible.

[Rassah]

Seller is a SomethingAwful goon, so there's a high chance of trolling or trying to scam. Add him to your list off possible scamers and ignore him please
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=146#post408053807

A troll or scammer? Don't think so, and you seem like an asshole for trying to make those accusations. He seems to be expressing the same frustrations I feel dealing with the community of "clearnet" BTC users.

On the SA forum, it's quite clear that he (along with everyone else there) thinks that Bitcoin is a joke and BTC users are a bunch of idiots who will fall for any scam. Not only does that make me think that he is not serious about delivering, and may just be trolling the users here, but even if he is genuinely interested in selling, fuck him for his opinions and contempt, and fuck his whole business. If customers are OK with buying from someone who thinks so poorly of them, that's their problem, but at least they should know it.

[MPOE-PR]

On the SA forum, it's quite clear that he (along with everyone else there) thinks that Bitcoin is a joke and BTC users are a bunch of idiots who will fall for any scam. Not only does that make me think that he is not serious about delivering, and may just be trolling the users here, but even if he is genuinely interested in selling, fuck him for his opinions and contempt, and fuck his whole business. If customers are OK with buying from someone who thinks so poorly of them, that's their problem, but at least they should know it.

Bitcoin bans Something Awful?!
Da fuck do we care about their opinions lol. Their opinions are a dime a dozen, if we don't like those they have others. We have the money. End of story.

[Rassah]

On the SA forum, it's quite clear that he (along with everyone else there) thinks that Bitcoin is a joke and BTC users are a bunch of idiots who will fall for any scam. Not only does that make me think that he is not serious about delivering, and may just be trolling the users here, but even if he is genuinely interested in selling, fuck him for his opinions and contempt, and fuck his whole business. If customers are OK with buying from someone who thinks so poorly of them, that's their problem, but at least they should know it.

Bitcoin bans Something Awful?!
Da fuck do we care about their opinions lol. Their opinions are a dime a dozen, if we don't like those they have others. We have the money. End of story.

Not saying ban them, just don't trust thus guy. Really, don't trust anyone associated with SA, since they are actively working on coming up with scams to use against bitcoiners. Yes, we have the money. Just make sure they don't.

[Littleshop]

Alrighty! It's been long enough and I've received 0.0000btc via orders from this posting. I'm going to go ahead and close up shop and go back to good ole USD. I don't know if it's a trust issue or a hoarding issue, but there just doesn't seem to be a demand here for surplus electrical and data center equipment.

Cutoff time for orders accepting BTC is going to be Friday the 26th, in case anyone was planning on ordering but waiting for a better time. Pro's don't close up shop without notice, no matter what. 

One problem is clearly price. 

http://www.kpsurplus.com/category/home-garden?page=3

Most of these items are going for prices above new and they are not new.  Why would I buy a used toggle switch from you for $5.99 when it is at the home depot new for $2?

[thebaron]

Seller is a SomethingAwful goon, so there's a high chance of trolling or trying to scam. Add him to your list off possible scamers and ignore him please
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=146#post408053807

A troll or scammer? Don't think so, and you seem like an asshole for trying to make those accusations. He seems to be expressing the same frustrations I feel dealing with the community of "clearnet" BTC users.

On the SA forum, it's quite clear that he (along with everyone else there) thinks that Bitcoin is a joke and BTC users are a bunch of idiots who will fall for any scam. Not only does that make me think that he is not serious about delivering, and may just be trolling the users here, but even if he is genuinely interested in selling, fuck him for his opinions and contempt, and fuck his whole business. If customers are OK with buying from someone who thinks so poorly of them, that's their problem, but at least they should know it.

Sounds like you two have history.

[Rassah]

Sounds like you two have history.

Us two? None at all. SA in particular? Somewhat. I dated an SA goon a while ago (before there was SA even), we are still (very) close friends, he's fairly well set up in the SA forums, fills me in on a lot, and lately I've been trolling them on and off (mostly off). Know your enemy and all that, and considering I like things like Bitcoin, furry fandom, and SecondLife, they are definitely not a friendly bunch to me (except for the closet cases who want to fuck me ) If I come across something questionable on their forums, I'll report it here, that's all.

[firefop]

Seller is a SomethingAwful goon, so there's a high chance of trolling or trying to scam. Add him to your list off possible scamers and ignore him please
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=146#post408053807

A troll or scammer? Don't think so, and you seem like an asshole for trying to make those accusations. He seems to be expressing the same frustrations I feel dealing with the community of "clearnet" BTC users.

Then again he's trying to market items, the bulk of which is obsolete and priced above the current going rate elsewhere, to a tiny potential BTC customer base. And the reality is that it's very tough to profitably sell late-model tech online (ebay, etc), even if you're getting paid to dispose of it. I had to give up doing it in bulk 10 years ago. Too much competition and not enough buyers, so the prices fall quickly. If anything, you have to focus on the cream of the crop. It's frustrating wading through a "catalog" website that only has maybe 5% of it's inventory that's actually appealing to potential buyers out there. If I was the OP and I had stuff like that coming in constantly and wanted to sell the stuff that's not popular online, I would focus my efforts into opening a thrift/surplus store type of operation with low pricing so you could turn over as much stuff as possible. Then again, it might be cheaper just to recycle or throw it out these days.

I'm saying that while BTC-spending buyers here can be extremely demanding, it's mostly the fact that there's hardly anyone domestically who's interested in buying the OP's stuff period. And the people who can market this kind of stuff in other countries, who don't find 5 year-old technology so disposable, understandably want it as close to free as possible.

I've tried to buy 3 times from him on this thread - the first time he wanted to 'value bitcoins' at 75% of market value. The second I offered to pay the price listed on the site in bitcoin valued near market and and additionally pay the shipping via creditcard, but while he at first seemed interested... no quote for the shipping was ever delivered. The third time I received no response at all.

My personal conclusion - guy probably doesn't have authority to sell negotiate prices for this business... and thus can't make a fair deal. It implies that he was hoping we'd allow him to undervalue bitcoins so he could recover his retail costs + profit on that 25%.

[capn noe]

Prices are high, sure. I consistently quote around half of the price on the inventory page to 75%. The toggle switch covers quoted above are overpriced, yes, and I'd include many of them for free on a larger order. Want some? I'll do you a 2 bucks each, which is a great price considering those are stainless steel lab/kitchen grade and not cheap plastic covers for 2 bucks each.  I just checked and found em new for 3.99 at HD http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202655367/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=3+gang+stainless+steel&storeId=10051 and the inventory item linked on our inventory page is also new and sealed. My 25% undervalue is inconceivable but your 50% undervalue is fine?  

Firefop never offered to pay USD directly, at least I didn't think so, but if you want that deal for the previously quoted items I'll do you cash for the offered deal of 50% off list price plus shipping. You stopped responding to me, I don't ignore actual clients. You want a quote, I'll get it to you within the next 24 hours.

As for being a goon, guilty on all charges. If you want to link a thread for 'evidence' you might want to try http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3495965 which is an almost exact duplicate of this thread here. In that thread I have successfully made over a grand in sales with numerous goons for fiat with positive feedback. In a way it's funny that some of you folks seem to be missing that the SA forums work almost entirely off of reputation, successfully, in a way that game-able automated systems such as OTC cannot replicate. If you are a member check out the store feedback threads and see that there are literally 50x more positive feedback posts than negative posts, a ratio that these forums here should envy.

As a seller I can say that being outed as a scammer by the goons, even scamming people from here, would be a huge blow against my reputation here, there, and almost everywhere else online.  Goons are often the morality police, eager to hunt out immoral behavior wherever they find it; and I'm one of them. They also have a sense of community that bleeds out to every corner of the internet, being on the SA shitlist isn't enviable for anyone. Unlike here. The goons are your bitcoin police. Get it?

eWaste is a dying industry, yes. Printers, ink, and desktop machines are out, but commercial datacenter equipment is still in high demand.  Frankly, I assumed that folks over here would be most interested in PDU's, fans, rack mount housings, and other data-center like equipment since a ton of the community here seem to be cargo culting datacenters in ya'alls basements.

Don't put your computers outside, block airflow for fans, and for gods sakes do cable management. I'd go so far as to offer consulting services but I assume I'd end up very very sorry for the offer.

I'm actually pro-crypto currencies, which is why this thread is here, but I'm pretty anti-bitcoin culture as it appears on this forum. Ya'all got me fucked up.

Welp,

[Treacheroso Von Pahnzi]

I can assure you that Capn Noe is an honest and karmicly balanced individual worthy of your trust.

[capn noe]

Sounds like you two have history.

That might be closer to the truth than you'd think. If I remember correctly Rassah was mercilessly teased for his choice in pornographic furniture across multiple forums and wiki's. I might be wrong, but if that's true I could understand his 'us vs them' stance.


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I can assure you that Capn Noe is an honest and karmicly balanced individual worthy of your trust.

This kind of thing is hilarious. Your moderation team is actually participating in business here in nefarious ways but ya'all can't get gimmick accounts in check.  DANK is still spewing bullshit, and he's an actual troll account but nooooo.... lets go after THIS guy.

[capn noe]

Sounds like you two have history.

That might be closer to the truth than you'd think. If I remember correctly Rassah was mercilessly teased for his choice in pornographic furniture across multiple forums and wiki's. I might be wrong, but if that's true I could understand his 'us vs them' stance.

That actually never bothered me. I like my table, and the rest of my collections and accomplishments, so teasing me about it is as productive as teasing anyone else about something they are proud of (e.g. teasing a successful businessman for having a business, or an art collector for owning a rare statue. It just doesn't work).
In fact, it was never anything personal. SA never accomplished in doing anything to me directly, and it's near impossible for me to be affected by any "teasing." That said, here's the rest of my reply:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122055.msg1312997

So, you don't like SA because they generalize. Then you go on to say that ALL of the thousands of SA members are scammers without heart or creativity.

You have no idea what you are talking about, but you are quite positive you are right. Right about objective things like the 'production of art' and the 'having of dreams', to boot!

The irony! THE IRONY!

I'm now somewhat convinced that dank isn't a goon at all, but is the guy with the dick-table. I'm on the edge of my seat to find out.

[Rassah]

I am generalizing that all the SA goons who are regulars on the Bitcoin threads, which includes you, are scammers, sure.

[capn noe]

I am generalizing that all the SA goons who are regulars on the Bitcoin threads, which includes you, are scammers, sure.

Make your scam accusation thread