Will Silk Road's Ulbricht Win Appeal?

[Beliathon]

No, he doesn't have a chance against the State in a State Courtroom of Injustice. The judge is an employee of Ulbricht's opponent.

But sooner or later the revolution will come to free people like Ulbricht, Manning, and Shrem, and no guards alive will be able to stop it.

We will replace them with men who deserve to be behind bars, like the banksters who greedily destroyed billions of other peoples' wealth (including pensions), and the treasonous corporate crony politicians who wipe their asses with our constitution for personal gain.

[scarsbergholden]

a Long road ahead for Ross, most of the public is out rage about hes sentence when real international drug dealers get 10 to 20 years he gets life.
the system is corrupt by making an sample out of him it shows that internal forces can manipulated the system has they please with no guaranties of having a fair trail if they could see have a say in whats accepted has proof.

[Manic Street Preacher]

a Long road ahead for Ross, most of the public is out rage about hes sentence

Really? Outrage? The general public don't seem to care. The only people who do are his mother and a few libertarians but a lot of angry anarchists arn't going to get him freed.

[turvarya]

a Long road ahead for Ross, most of the public is out rage about hes sentence

Really? Outrage? The general public don't seem to care. The only people who do are his mother and a few libertarians but a lot of angry anarchists arn't going to get him freed.

The general public doesn't care about anything. Have you seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M

[S4VV4S]

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We will replace them with men who deserve to be behind bars, like the banksters who greedily destroyed billions of other peoples' wealth (including pensions), and the treasonous corporate crony politicians who wipe their asses with our constitution for personal gain.

Amen to that.
I wonder when (and IF) that is going to happen.
History has shown otherwise.
Look at Greece and Cyprus for example.

[Beliathon]

Amen to that.
I wonder when (and IF) that is going to happen.
History has shown otherwise.
Look at Greece and Cyprus for example.

Although reality in Greece seems dark right now, the youth there having just rejecting the IMF's austerity measures is truly a great example, full of courage and optimism. They are rejecting the banking system, saying it's better to face total national bankruptcy and restart the entire dead economy than to go along as debt slaves one more year. I salute the Greeks (especially you millennials who made this happen), stand strong. If the Italians, Spanish, or Irish follow suit, the euro is done.

As far as when we get our revolution here in the U.S., I'd say we've got fifteen years on the outside, but probably closer to five. Just my 2cents, take it for what it's worth.

[DGulari]

The relevant point, as you well know, is whether or not the actions have a negative effect on others.

Nope.  Moron. 

That is not the relevant point.  In law, they don't consider that at all.  They never perform any analysis whatever as to 'negative effect on others'.  They just ask whether or not he is guilty of selling drugs.  Done.  Even where there is zero harm on others, - death penalty. 

The relevant point, as you well know, is - you don't know shit about law.

[eerygarden]

then again, it seems he tried to hire some hitmen to do some nasty jobs, in this case I don't really care what happens to him.

This could just be an allegation.

[eerygarden]

No, he doesn't have a chance against the State in a State Courtroom of Injustice. The judge is an employee of Ulbricht's opponent.

Damn straight!

[eerygarden]

a Long road ahead for Ross, most of the public is out rage about hes sentence

Really? Outrage? The general public don't seem to care. The only people who do are his mother and a few libertarians but a lot of angry anarchists arn't going to get him freed.

The general public doesn't care about anything. Have you seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M

They've got pictures of my dick!?!?!?

[tss]

I was not a big follower of the details of this case but according to the documentary Deep Web, by Alex winter, his defence was that he was never an admin for silk road, he merely built the website and sold it to someone else. You know how it goes with these things, you can never be sure on what to believe. The documentary leaves a lot of room for doubt in the prosecutions case though.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3312868/

thanks for the link.  looking forward to watching.

and no his appeal will go nowhere.  maybe 15-20 years from now one of the future dictators of america will pardon him once drugs are more accepted but i wouldn't hold my breath.

[scarsbergholden]

is hes lawyer is good enough this case could go to the supreme court and we know that takes times at lease there is always hope for an over ruling of this kind of sentences.

[Jordan23]

The relevant point, as you well know, is whether or not the actions have a negative effect on others.

Nope.  Moron.  

That is not the relevant point.  In law, they don't consider that at all.  They never perform any analysis whatever as to 'negative effect on others'.  They just ask whether or not he is guilty of selling drugs.  Done.  Even where there is zero harm on others, - death penalty.  

The relevant point, as you well know, is - you don't know shit about law.

We get it. YOu went on some rant about "murder for hire" with ZERO proof of him doing it. (Moron)

We also get you think selling drugs is worse than rape.

Would it be the same if I forced people to do my drugs than if they called me up wanting the drugs?

Would it be the same if I forced myself on a woman for sex than if she called me up looking for it?

Get well soon.

[Blackbird0]

As I've said in many other threads about this, I do not believe he has a viable appeal.

It is unclear to me what would be the basis of his appeal.

[scarsbergholden]

The fact that they didn't charge the investigators who stole the Bitcoins until after sentencing makes the trial illegitimate. Unfortunately the people in charge of deciding whether there should be a re-trial are the ones who facilitated the use of tainted evidence in the first place.

There is a lot of political pressure behind the trail so no wonder so much evidence in his favor was not allowed during the trail, just imagine hes lawyer talking about corrupt agents taking drug money for them self.

[DGulari]

The fact that they didn't charge the investigators who stole the Bitcoins until after sentencing makes the trial illegitimate.

Not according to the laws written in the books. Perhaps it is according to some weird made up laws which exist in your head.  But the courts aren't using those laws.

[turvarya]

The fact that they didn't charge the investigators who stole the Bitcoins until after sentencing makes the trial illegitimate.

Not according to the laws written in the books. Perhaps it is according to some weird made up laws which exist in your head.  But the courts aren't using those laws.

Credibility is an important part in a trial. Especially this trial is based a lot on the assumption, that the state officials told the truth.

[bryant.coleman]

Credibility is an important part in a trial. Especially this trial is based a lot on the assumption, that the state officials told the truth.

Credibility of this trial is near zero, when the situation is like this:

No, he doesn't have a chance against the State in a State Courtroom of Injustice. The judge is an employee of Ulbricht's opponent.

The judge (Katherine Bolan Forrest) seems to be biased and even seems to be harbouring some secret grudge against Ross Ullbricht.

http://freekeene.com/2015/01/14/power-hungry-judge-threatens-courtroom-and-jury-in-ross-ulbricht-trial-over-jury-outreach-activism/

[S4VV4S]

The fact that they didn't charge the investigators who stole the Bitcoins until after sentencing makes the trial illegitimate. Unfortunately the people in charge of deciding whether there should be a re-trial are the ones who facilitated the use of tainted evidence in the first place.

There is a lot of political pressure behind the trail so no wonder so much evidence in his favor was not allowed during the trail, just imagine hes lawyer talking about corrupt agents taking drug money for them self.

If they allowed any mention of the corrupt cops the case would have probably been dismissed.
That's why there was no mention of them as well as many other facts in Ross' favor that were not accepted.

[jeffthebaker]

There is not even a 0.0000001% chance that his sentence will be reduced. The FBI want to make an example out of him. They want to scare other possible future dark market admins using his example. Accept it. Ross Ullbricht will remain imprisoned for the rest of his life, unless he manages to escape from the prison.

Came here exactly to say this. From the view point of the government, his actions are nothing in comparison to the value of him being locked behind bars. It doesn't matter how little or how much Ross did, as long as Ross's imprisonment puts out a message to the public, he will remain behind bars.