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July 09, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
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Hello!

I have an attack of reputation abuse by angry kid who tried to scam me.
Can it be prevented and deleted?
As there are no reference links as they are a lie.
I never scammed anyone and done so many deals here with great members of this forums.

Help?

Reputation abuse from this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=531696

Because of this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1115301.0

Tried to scam me. I won the auction for 0.01 btc, after that he asks for 0.02btc as he says it is too low.

PM from him: http://prntscr.com/7qq4nw

and then this:
http://prntscr.com/7qqa05

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i am pretty sure if you speak to the mods they will understand, you may have to prove your point by telling them why he is so angry Smiley

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July 09, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
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If i remember correctly, trust (reputation) is unmoderated... It probably won't be deleted, but it has no impact as long as the abuser is not in the default trust list

 

                                       
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July 09, 2015, 04:31:44 PM
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i am pretty sure if you speak to the mods they will understand, you may have to prove your point by telling them why he is so angry Smiley
I just updated topic with proofs.
Now I'm going to contact someone from support.
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July 09, 2015, 04:34:41 PM
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After reading your screenshots, wouldn't it be better to open a SCAM accusation?

He failed to ask a start price for which he wanted to sell. You won the auction fair and square, but he refused to sell...

Not completely sure this is scamming (since you didn't risk any BTC)?

 

                                       
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July 09, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
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Trust is not moderated. However, if you get a lot of fake feedbacks, thise feedbacks maybe removed by admins but this won't be removed. Just ignore it.

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July 09, 2015, 04:36:31 PM
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hmm, this is just how trust system work these days, it is simply sad, that somebody behaves likes this:



anyway, since it is untrusted rating and rating is not generally moderated, I think that you don't need to take care about it, anyway I fully understand, that it is just shitty to had trust rating painted red..
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July 09, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
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If i remember correctly, trust (reputation) is unmoderated... It probably won't be deleted, but it has no impact as long as the abuser is not in the default trust list

you are right. only theymos and badbear can remove trust feedback and they very rarely do it. I doubt OP will get any help on this one, but I might be wrong tho.

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July 09, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
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Trust is not moderated. However, if you get a lot of fake feedbacks, thise feedbacks maybe removed by admins but this won't be removed. Just ignore it.
But it's so dirty. I look like a scammer and I don't want that. I don't scam people - not here, not anywhere in my life. You can see my real reputation, deals with great guys from here, all green and smooth, as it is like that. So I am so disturbed by seeing this, that I have a headache already.
Some admin, please, help.

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July 09, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
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I think there should be a special moderator only for these cases only for trust feedback.
Btw if admin removes it good, if not we cant do anything Sad
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July 09, 2015, 04:41:09 PM
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Trust is not moderated. However, if you get a lot of fake feedbacks, thise feedbacks maybe removed by admins but this won't be removed. Just ignore it.
But it's so dirty. I look like a scammer and I don't want that. I don't scam people - not here, not anywhere in my life. You can see my real reputation, deals with great guys from here, all green and smooth, as it is like that. So I am so disturbed by seeing this, that I have a headache already.
Some admin, please, help.

See mine for example. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=320943

Check Vod's. Even theymos' and Satoshi has negative trust feedback.

P.S. Just ignore.

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July 09, 2015, 04:46:37 PM
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I've left negative trust on Holzbein's account and his alts. That should help a little. Other than that just ignore it as everybody said. People will realize that's just fake feedback.

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July 09, 2015, 04:53:02 PM
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I've left negative trust on Holzbein's account and his alts. That should help a little. Other than that just ignore it as everybody said. People will realize that's just fake feedback.
Thanks.

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July 09, 2015, 04:56:49 PM
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I've left negative trust on Holzbein's account and his alts. That should help a little. Other than that just ignore it as everybody said. People will realize that's just fake feedback.
Thanks.

He send a new one:

http://prntscr.com/7qqul6

What does he think he is doing? It is terrible to see someone's trust feedback all red.
The admin must do something, for real.
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July 09, 2015, 08:55:15 PM
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I've left negative trust on Holzbein's account and his alts. That should help a little. Other than that just ignore it as everybody said. People will realize that's just fake feedback.
Thanks.

He send a new one:

http://prntscr.com/7qqul6

What does he think he is doing? It is terrible to see someone's trust feedback all red.
The admin must do something, for real.

Welcome to bitcointalk. Trust should definetly be re-organized, but it's not being done for some reason, i'm hoping for a change also.
Also, centralization of trust in a forum about decentralization is just a bad joke.

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July 09, 2015, 09:06:23 PM
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Trust should be vetted by a moderator for a number of reasons -

What's stopping a scammer creating loads of alts & leaving themselves positive feedback to trick people into  trusting them?

People can abuse the trust system by leaving false negative feedback because of a personal dispute. I know it doesn't really count unless it's left by somebody on default trust but it's still not fair.




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July 09, 2015, 09:09:41 PM
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Why bother about the feedback given by a newbie? It won't harm your reputation here and plus since trust system isn't moderated, this doesn't count as reputation abuse unless the newbie spams his ratings. He has already got a negative trust rating and I guess he won't come back to the forum now  Wink
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July 09, 2015, 09:38:44 PM
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I think there should be a special moderator only for these cases only for trust feedback.
Btw if admin removes it good, if not we cant do anything Sad

Trust should be vetted by a moderator for a number of reasons -

What's stopping a scammer creating loads of alts & leaving themselves positive feedback to trick people into  trusting them?

People can abuse the trust system by leaving false negative feedback because of a personal dispute. I know it doesn't really count unless it's left by somebody on default trust but it's still not fair.






No.
1) They don't want to play judge and jury, leaving themselves open to constant attack.
2) Who will review their decisions?
3) There will need to be further people for review of the above decisions.
Trust left by these types of people are easily recognizable for what they are: Junk.
There is much worse left Trust on many people's accounts that won't be removed and shouldn't be unless it is spam.







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July 09, 2015, 10:28:37 PM
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Trust won't be removed unless it is spam, and must be a loudy spam.

See for example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=219961

the trust:


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Is around for few days.

And also there is a topic about a "has no penis" trust that made the creator of the topic receive lots of troll trusts, none of them removed so fr
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July 09, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
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IMHO trust feedback should be disabled from newbies to avoid these kind of things. If a newbie is scammed and want a red trust for the user who scammed him, he can post proofs in the scam accusation thread and higher members can do the thing for him.
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