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July 12, 2015, 05:40:49 PM
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Didn't say I didn't believe it, just found it humorous how righties are using scientists opinions now. Thought they were a universal government tool to make stuff up. Glad to see you guys paying attention to them now.

Actually it's a leftist canard that Right of Center people are anti-science. It happened when leftists embraced junk environmental suppositions as science and Right of Center people trained in scientific methodology said, "Woah! Wait a minute. These predictions are primarily being based on a wing and a prayer rather than on hard facts and what hard facts do exist do not automatically lend themselves to what soon became a leftist orientated 'doom and gloom' version of 'reality'. The response of feelings-based leftists WITH an ideologically based political agenda? "People Right of Center are anti-science!"

No, they simply do not sanction leftists RAPING science in order to falsely promote an ideologically based political agenda in the name of science and falsely promote it as . . . factual when it is anything but factual in nature.
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July 12, 2015, 05:42:26 PM
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Actually it's a leftist canard that Right of Center people are anti-science. It happened when leftists embraced junk environmental suppositions as science and Right of Center people trained in scientific methodology said, "Woah! Wait a minute. These predictions are primarily being based on a wing and a prayer rather than on hard facts and what hard facts do exist do not automatically lend themselves to what soon became a leftist orientated 'doom and gloom' version of 'reality'. The response of feelings-based leftists WITH an ideologically based political agenda? "People Right of Center are anti-science!"

No, they simply do not sanction leftists RAPING science in order to falsely promote an ideologically based political agenda in the name of science and falsely promote it as . . . factual when it is anything but factual in nature.

I'm just happy you guys are quoting scientists these days! Pleasant surprise. Was under the impression that scientists didn't know what they were talking about.
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July 12, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
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I'm just happy you guys are quoting scientists these days! Pleasant surprise. Was under the impression that scientists didn't know what they were talking about.

When the leftist influence government began employing suborned scientists to FIND that Climate Change was a reality when the 'science' was still in its infancy then intelligent people who were themselves trained in various sciences . . . got suspicious; and rightly so as it has turned out.

First it was global cooling and then global warming and then cooling and then warming and then finally those government funded scientists hired to get specific results threw up their hands and called it Climate Change, which is a catch-all term that can never be wrong since climate is always changing; always has done so and always will. Psssst . . . leftists thought that nobody would notice that slight of hand game play?
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July 12, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
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When the leftist influence government began employing suborned scientists to FIND that Climate Change was a reality when the 'science' was still in its infancy then intelligent people who were themselves trained in various sciences . . . got suspicious; and rightly so as it has turned out.

First it was global cooling and then global warming and then cooling and then warming and then finally those government funded scientists hired to get specific results threw up their hands and called it Climate Change, which is a catch-all term that can never be wrong since climate is always changing; always has done so and always will. Psssst . . . leftists thought that nobody would notice that slight of hand game play?

But to their dismay, many of us see right through these envirowackos.
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July 12, 2015, 05:46:54 PM
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Okay...let me get this straight.

Scientists predict a warmer Earth....they are idiots controlled by government manipulations and unknown financial interests.

Scientists predict a colder Earth...they are geniuses who know everything and deserve a parade.

Reality......the Climate of our planet has changed since the planet formed and will always do so. Scientists will try to figure it out for a very long time and come up with many predictions, some will end up accurate and others will not.
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July 12, 2015, 05:47:53 PM
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But to their dismay, many of us see right through these envirowackos.

Even more to their dismay, however, is that increasingly mainstream scientists -- who are not employed by various governments to 'discover' Climate Change doom and gloom scenarios -- are rather innocently beginning to poke holes in their pseudo-science boondoggle. When it's the science that actually matters rather than an ideologically based political result . . . interesting things begin happening by way of genuine scientific results backed up by hard data of a sufficient nature to finally begin supporting some predictive structure . . . structure that is now beginning to poke holes in leftist pronouncements.
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July 12, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
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When the leftist influence government began employing suborned scientists to FIND that Climate Change was a reality when the 'science' was still in its infancy then intelligent people who were themselves trained in various sciences . . . got suspicious; and rightly so as it has turned out.

First it was global cooling and then global warming and then cooling and then warming and then finally those government funded scientists hired to get specific results threw up their hands and called it Climate Change, which is a catch-all term that can never be wrong since climate is always changing; always has done so and always will. Psssst . . . leftists thought that nobody would notice that slight of hand game play?

Ahhhh!! So the scientists are no longer influenced and just telling the truth. Makes sense. I'm glad the conspiracy has been solved and now scientists can tell the truth again!
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July 12, 2015, 05:50:40 PM
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Ahhhh!! So the scientists are no longer influenced and just telling the truth. Makes sense. I'm glad the conspiracy has been solved and now scientists can tell the truth again!

Actually from the responses, leftists emotionally and (in some cases) financially invested in a "We're all gonna die!" doom and gloom scenario of Global Warming OR Global Cooling seem not to be particularly happy campers anymore because increasingly the science is saying to the world in general, "Um, no we are not."
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July 12, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
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Actually from the responses, leftists emotionally and (in some cases) financially invested in a "We're all gonna die!" doom and gloom scenario of Global Warming OR Global Cooling seem not to be particularly happy campers anymore because increasingly the science is saying to the world in general, "Um, no we are not."

I'm just glad you guys are listening to scientists again! Very nice change, luckily the scientists are no longer going to tell lies to push a made up agenda.
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July 12, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
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If the warming alarmists actually followed the science instead of the media and government agencies, they would find the real mess climate science is in presently. Instead they only look at the political consensus as valid.

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July 12, 2015, 06:10:13 PM
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According to daily mail, they mentioned those image are almost clear sun, I say it is ruthlessly rubbish, no one cannot able to capture the SUN which is millions times hotter than lava temperature and about 13 billion times brighter than the next brightest star, Sirius, with their sophisticated digital innovative satellite cameras, having said that their presumptions also faux and highly misleading.
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July 13, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
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If a mini ice age were to occur it would be just as bad as global warming.
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July 13, 2015, 02:29:11 AM
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Jesus needs a break too
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July 13, 2015, 01:47:34 PM
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I guess earth begin to take over its body, and wont let the human to destroy it anymore. Then earth need to reduce human population and make it more spacious. If scientists can predict the problem, then they should can solve it too, like create a tool that prepare us to face that ice age.

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July 13, 2015, 03:25:00 PM
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I guess earth begin to take over its body, and wont let the human to destroy it anymore. Then earth need to reduce human population and make it more spacious. If scientists can predict the problem, then they should can solve it too, like create a tool that prepare us to face that ice age.
I've read about this from other sources. This is not related to the Earth as it isn't doing anything unusual, but rather the sun. However, I do agree with you that there are a lot of people who are mostly just wasting resources and have minimum to zero contribution to the greater good.
I don't see why we should really put much thought into this. It is just a prediction, and as such they can often be wrong (check the speculation section of this very forum). There is a lot of time before this even happens, so we can just wait it out. We shouldn't worry too much either, as there is really nothing that we can do about it (in case that it does happen).


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July 13, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
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Global warming? Yeah, right.

I'll just drop the following film in here:

The Great Global Warming Swindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

Very enlightening, both with solid scientific data, and historic background of where this "global warming"  movement started and how it got nurtured politically. And yes, the Sun is the major driving force for climate on Earth, through so many - often not very obvious - ways.

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July 13, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
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I've read about this from other sources. This is not related to the Earth as it isn't doing anything unusual, but rather the sun. However, I do agree with you that there are a lot of people who are mostly just wasting resources and have minimum to zero contribution to the greater good.
I don't see why we should really put much thought into this. It is just a prediction, and as such they can often be wrong (check the speculation section of this very forum). There is a lot of time before this even happens, so we can just wait it out. We shouldn't worry too much either, as there is really nothing that we can do about it (in case that it does happen).

Yeah but I think atleast we must begin to cautious about this issue, and learn to how face it when the time has come. The "ice age" should not be a problem then if we have known what we will do before.

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July 13, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
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In 1677, the people living in Europe had no problem in dealing with the cold wave. And in my opinion, with the advancement of technology, the predicted mini-ice age in 2020-22 will hardly have any effect on the humans. That said, some of the bigger Arctic cities might be adversely effected (such as Murmansk, Norilsk and Vorkuta in Russia and Tromsø in Norway). Millions of people might be evacuated to warmer cities.
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July 13, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
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Thanks To Reduced Solar Activity, We Could Be Heading For A Mini Ice Age In 2030

Life on Earth has always been dependent on the conditions of the Sun, so scientists spend a lot of time studying its activity. A recent announcement from solar scientists suggests that the Sun may soon enter a period of significant reduced activity, possibly causing a mini ice age by 2030 – just 15 years from now.

These predictions were announced at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno, Wales, so it hasn't been possible to evaluate the research yet. However, Professor Valentina Zharkova from the University of Northumbria who made this announcement claims that the findings come from a computer model of sunspots that has made "unprecedentedly accurate predictions," as reported in The Guardian.

The model has shown to have a 97% accuracy when mapping the past movements of sunspots, using data of solar cycles from 1976 to 2008. And if this reliability continues, then the model also has some alarming predictions for the future: a mini ice age sometime around the 2030s.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/we-could-be-heading-mini-ice-age-2030
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July 13, 2015, 10:20:06 PM
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In 1677, the people living in Europe had no problem in dealing with the cold wave. And in my opinion, with the advancement of technology, the predicted mini-ice age in 2020-22 will hardly have any effect on the humans. That said, some of the bigger Arctic cities might be adversely effected (such as Murmansk, Norilsk and Vorkuta in Russia and Tromsø in Norway). Millions of people might be evacuated to warmer cities.
And what about worldwide crop production?

I guess that's not a problem because if food production goes down, the free market adjusts with higher prices...

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