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March 02, 2017, 04:31:03 PM
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A 20 euro is nothing but 20 x 1000 (10000?) and you have money. A big money for nothing. Only for creating a web site. This is a good deal.
A 200K euro for 1-2 days working to create web site and waiting. I want to have a job like this :-)

But 200K its only a small part. I read on web that people put there 10-20-30 K euro.
For me this is incredible value.

Maybe they want a conquer with Amber Gold. Amber stole more or less 200 mln euro.

I suppose the amount XXk euro is not enough .. they are probably about 2 years on market, so possible that they collect something around 1XXk - 5XXk euro. Certainly there are many investors who prefer to stay anonymous, so who knows..
I doubt, that they will ever do so big scam as Amber Gold. To do that they will need people in government. Bitcoin is still to little for them.

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March 05, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
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So the Recyclix criminals are trying the old "We have to change fiat to BTC in order to cover your BTC withdrawal" excuse for why they aren't paying out.
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But, given that they also complain about having to sell the BTC they receive from their 'investors' in order to buy the plastic waste in the first place, they already have a rich source of BTC they can buy and sell FROM/TO themselves.

So when they, supposedly, sell the final pellets to whomever they are pretending is buying them, they should be receiving hard currency which would be exchangeable internally for the incoming BTC deposits they have in order to cover outgoing customer withdrawals, while also freeing that fiat currency for use in the process of buying the plastic waste.

If they were a legitimate operation and not a ponzi scam they would be doing exactly this and not trying to fob their 'investors' off with excuses as to why they can't process their withdrawal requests promptly.


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March 06, 2017, 10:08:43 AM
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In Poland already reported today as Ponzi in popular newspaper: http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/544257,recyclix-oszustwo-piramida-finansowa-amber-gold-smieci-recykling.html

And in internet: http://transatlantycki.blogspot.com/2017/02/recyclix-down.html
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Nice! About time this scam got some mainstream media coverage.

Let's see how this goes down on their Facebook page.

http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/544257,recyclix-oszustwo-piramida-finansowa-amber-gold-smieci-recykling.html
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Another pyramid scheme tailored Amber Gold. This time built on garbage ...

Recyclix. Is the name of the company, which decided to foment ecological revolution. Business idea - presented to potential investors - is simple. Man pays Recycliksowi money , in return for which he receives a virtual ... garbage. The company buys waste and then processes it and sells. Profit shares and investors. How much can you earn? 14 percent. monthly. What gives exactly 481 percent. per year. According to estimates by the same company trusted by its approx. 100 thousand. Poles. According to our calculations, the number may be three times smaller, but still impressive.

The company boasted that its business model supports even the Latvian Ministry of the Environment. And how is it in reality?

Recyclix is ​​a limited liability company, whose sole shareholder is a citizen of Latvia. Its share capital amounts to 5 thousand. zł. Reputation in the market?

- We do not know of such an entity in the industry. Only seen them trivial movies on YouTube. If you deal with recycling, which I doubt, it is certainly not on the scale of the declared - says Dariusz Matlak, president of the Polish Chamber of Waste Management. And he adds that, at first glance, the operation of the company reminds him of financial pyramid. The model is simple: as long as there is no shortage willing to invest their money, those who put the capital were the first to get a solid return. However, when the interest decreases, the company rolls out of the market.

- Promised by Recyclix profits is nonsense. I'm surprised that at a time when everywhere talking about Amber Gold, people still give up to take on similar patterns - says Matlak.

The fact is that the measures that its activities have invested thousands of Poles.

The support of the Latvian government is a myth. The one who had given him, which Natalija Cudečka-Purina, a senior expert in the Ministry of Environmental Protection, tells us categorically that I have never supported the activities of the company. Her only contact with the company was that I was invited to the conference, which was attended by Recyclix, and spoke to her generally about waste management.

The activities of junk business interested in recent weeks, the Financial Supervision Commission (KNF). Her official position is: "The Commission recognizes the evidence that could indicate a possible violation of the law." At stake is the notorious scandal Amber Gold objection of art. 171 banking law. It specifies that you can not without the permission conduct the business of collecting funds from other people while burdening their risk of losing money. Threatens even 5 years imprisonment.

Interestingly, the issue became interested in August 2016. Commissione Nazionale per le Societa e la Borsa (CONSOB), which is Italian counterpart KNF. And this is because the business sense of the Polish company believed approx. 40 thousand. Italians. Recyclix fact intensely advertised not only on the Polish market, but also just in Italy, Germany and Latvia.

CONSOB stated that the activity registered in Poland of the company testifies to the fact that it acts as a pyramid scheme. What is prohibited not only by Polish law but also Italian.

KNF its preliminary position generated in mid-February. A Recyclix February 27 put to the supervisory authority and the prosecutor's office in the hands of a solid weapon. On that day, because the company informed investors that ... they take them half the money paid. And - what is more - do it according to their own rules stated on the website. Interestingly, like most of its provisions in Polish, so note that the paid agents may chasm in the event of force majeure - in English.

Why Recyclix took people paid money? As he explains, is the effect of fire of 14 February. in Brożku (Lubuskie), as a result of which burned one of their landfills. Speaking so vividly, as the smoke went waste company, just as the smoke went investors' money. The thing is that indicated by the company dump, which burned down, did to her was not.

- The owner of the landfill is Deko-process sp. Z oo - informs us Zbigniew Fąfera, Prosecutor's Office in Zielona Gora. This entity, at least formally, is in no way connected with Recycliksem.

- So it comes out that it took my 1400 zł, because someone burned a mountain of garbage. I do not care?! - He tells us one of outraged investors. And he adds that the first thing he did when he learned about the confusion surrounding the company, it ordered the payment of the remaining funds in the account. These, however, also did not receive.

We wanted to speak to a representative Recycliksu. Our questions sent by e-mail, but no one answered, and the telephone was received by Ms speaks with a distinctly eastern accent, which at the request of the reply said only: "dobzie, I'll try."


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March 06, 2017, 10:59:37 AM
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Not sure guys if you get information correct.. Garbage dump that burned, was not and had nothing to do with Recyclix.
The true owner of the garbage dump - "Deko-Proces sp. z o.o.", also have nothing to do with Recyclix.
This means that the reason for blocking money is a lie!

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March 06, 2017, 12:07:32 PM
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And ReaLm85, who had an answer to every question and was always here to defend Recyclix, hasn't logged in for over a week.
They started to draw media attention so it's probably a good moment to pack up and run.

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And ReaLm85, who had an answer to every question and was always here to defend Recyclix, hasn't logged in for over a week.
They started to draw media attention so it's probably a good moment to pack up and run.

ReaLm85 was a long-time defender and shill for Recyclix, to the degree I suspect they may even have been part of the scam.

Seeing as the shit is definitely heading fan-ward, let's just remind ourselves of some of the people behind-the-scenes.

Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account:
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As you can see they had to process fiat payments through their existing payment processor account, which was registered to a company called 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda' for which online searches show a history of fraudulent behaviour. This is where we first meet 'Roman Parra' by way of his hotmail address linked to that payment account.

So, now we've objectively established that the company behind Recyclix is 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda', let's see what information can be found about it:
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As you can see, it is classed as a small promotions and advertising company.

But who is running the show there?
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Oh look! It appears that a gentleman called, 'Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales' is the full name of the registered manager for this criminal enterprise.


Now, let's set about connecting the scammer Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales, who owns the email account roman_parra@hotmail.com to the supposedly respectable Roman Parra, bitcoin entrepreneur.

Prior to becoming the thieving douchebag he would later choose to be, a young Roman Parra attended University and studied Industrial Production and Engineering. He wrote a detailed thesis on the subject, in Spanish naturally, but we are not particularly interested in the content of this thesis, just the name and email address of the student named as its author:
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Roman Parra Gonzales wrote this thesis and, as you see, his email address is the very same roman_parra@hotmail.com who would later go on to become the fraudster douchebag behind many online scams.

This is a linkedin page the supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra has:
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His 'legitimate' business interests are listed there, such as Colbitex, Bitcoin Suramerica and Woodshares, which shares remarkably similar characteristics to the enviro-friendly Recyclix scam as you 'invest' in trees, you know, for the environment! Roman Parra knows his shit when it comes to yanking people's chains about the environment and persuading them to part with their hard-earned cash on the promise of bigger returns, later.

His Twitter account also lists his CEO and Founder status of these companies:
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Handily enough, it also shows he has another name after the 'Parra' beginning with 'G' and I'm betting big that is stands for, 'Gonzales'.

Ok, so now we have the 'CEO and Founder' of these supposedly legitimate bitcoin companies with the name 'Roman Parra Gonzales', anybody want to bet there's an 'Eduardo' in there, too?

But let's take a look at the rest of his linkedin page:
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How interesting! The supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra studied Industrial Production and Engineering, as well as training as a Marketing Specialist. Remember that C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda is listed as an advertising and promotions company? My, how the young engineering student has grown!

Funny how he fails to mention being manager of C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda in the list of companies in his linkedin profile.


Isn't it 'funny' how Recyclix just went through a period of very actively demanding multiple ID documents from their 'investors'. Not only do they get to steal their customer funds, they also get a vast collection of valuable-on-the-black-market identity documents.

Bad news is that they collect copies of ID's/passports from their "investors". Think why.

I can think why:
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March 07, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
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~snip~
Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account:
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It looks like this "Polish-registered" Ponzi scheme is not so Polish Smiley
Polish newspaper that publish about them, claim that is only one owner of this company, and it is citizen of Latvia. Unfortunately not give his name nor surname.



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~snip~
Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account:
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It looks like this "Polish-registered" Ponzi scheme is not so Polish Smiley
Polish newspaper that publish about them, claim that is only one owner of this company, and it is citizen of Latvia. Unfortunately not give his name nor surname.

Latvia is a known offshore haven... could be that Mr. Parra has a shell company in Latvia that owns Recyclix in Poland, or some such scheme. Although a stolen identity or a co-conspirator is also a possibility.

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On polish tax system a name is Suranovas Aleksandr. Link but from mobile http://m.krs-online.com.pl/recyclix-sp-z-o-o-krs-1503451.html
Maybe U can find something about this guy.

BTW
Polish newspaper start writing about that scam.
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On polish tax system a name is Suranovas Aleksandr. Link but from mobile http://m.krs-online.com.pl/recyclix-sp-z-o-o-krs-1503451.html
Maybe U can find something about this guy.

BTW
Polish newspaper start writing about that scam.

Sounds weird, certainly unusual for a Latvian or Russian or Latvianized Russian name.

Edit: actually it seems to be Lithuanized Russian, and if this is the real person he's behind on child support... not nice:

http://archive.is/ZaGl3#selection-365.0-365.33

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I cant sleep and I search little deeper.
Co-worker in another polish bla bla is Artur Przemysław Boruch and Puksto Ruslan. http://www.infoveriti.pl/osoba-krs/Suranovas-Aleksandr/8f180966f99808ac6b0f8c515b5e4f54.html
First one is probably that guy https://mojepanstwo.pl/dane/krs_osoby/785638,boruch-przemyslaw-artur
Actualy in 109 company as a chef.
Second one http://www.infoveriti.pl/osoba-krs/Puksto-Ruslan/e9e8ea593d8ee74c7001329e458d0f2a.html and a next surname is conected with Recyclix and probably a next company Acanti.
http://m.krs-online.com.pl/acanti-sp-z-o-o-krs-7117858.html
And a connection Rabenda - Puksto is http://krs.infoveriti.pl/Acanti,Warszawa,Zarzad,KRS,0000635952.html
And when U click on Rabenda surname U see lots of other people http://krs.infoveriti.pl/Acanti,Warszawa,Zarzad,KRS,0000635952.html
If I made any mistakes sorry but from mobile its not that simple.
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If I made any mistakes sorry but from mobile its not that simple.


Recyclix was created as shelf company. Bought and renamed. That is why Infoveriti lists mentioned person as somehow connected. But one works for company that create ready made companies and another one were buyer of another company. So I do not think they know Recyclix.

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Reply to parliamentary question of Polish Deputy Adam Ołdakowski: http://orka2.sejm.gov.pl/INT8.nsf/klucz/658C47EE/%24FILE/i09595-o1.pdf
After the question company was investigated by KNF (Komisja Nadzoru Finansowego - Polish Financial Supervision Authority ). KNF is similar institution as CONSOB in Italy.
The story were also in Newsweek: http://www.newsweek.pl/biznes/spolki-recyclix-klienci-liczyli-ze-zarobia-krocie-na-smieciach-piramida-finansowa,artykuly,406481,1.html

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~snip~
Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account:
~snip~

It looks like this "Polish-registered" Ponzi scheme is not so Polish Smiley
Polish newspaper that publish about them, claim that is only one owner of this company, and it is citizen of Latvia. Unfortunately not give his name nor surname.

Latvia is a known offshore haven... could be that Mr. Parra has a shell company in Latvia that owns Recyclix in Poland, or some such scheme. Although a stolen identity or a co-conspirator is also a possibility.

Judging by Roman Parra's previous history of involvement with other scammy operations it would suggest his participation in the early days of Recyclix, in sending out the payments from a paypal account registered to his personal email address, he is either part of a core group likely involving 'Eastern European'/Russian criminals, or, even if he were to claim he was 'only' paid to process the money on their behalf, is likely to have incriminating evidence and an electronic trail the authorities could use against them.

I'm still betting he's the originator of the idea, even if criminals from other countries were involved. His background is industrial processes and fucking marketing, of all things! Plus he already had tried a 'green' collective investment 'scheme' supposedly planting trees, so plastics recycling just seems to have been a natural step up from that.


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" Recyclix is currently working on a solution of offering its users an option to convert the temporarily suspended waste packages into shares of the above-mentioned fund.

The application for the registration and activation of the fund has been already submitted and is now to be authorized by the respective banking authority; the update will follow immediately once the approval has been given.

We would like to encourage the entire supportive Recyclix community to work together to fully restore the business activities as soon as possible.

Despite of what happened; Recyclix management is determined to move forward to solve all the current issues in an efficient and rapid way. We are convinced that with your understanding and support Recyclix will be back on the stage of the big European Recycling companies very soon."
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" Recyclix is currently working on a solution of offering its users an option to convert the temporarily suspended waste packages into shares of the above-mentioned fund.

The application for the registration and activation of the fund has been already submitted and is now to be authorized by the respective banking authority; the update will follow immediately once the approval has been given.

We would like to encourage the entire supportive Recyclix community to work together to fully restore the business activities as soon as possible.

Despite of what happened; Recyclix management is determined to move forward to solve all the current issues in an efficient and rapid way. We are convinced that with your understanding and support Recyclix will be back on the stage of the big European Recycling companies very soon."

In what world do you live? The prosecution from long time track activities of Recyclix. Now it's a matter of time that will shut this "business" down!
Why no one respond to Newsweek article in Poland? They officialy call Recyclix Ponzi scheme!
Better pack your waste and run..

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" Recyclix is currently working on a solution of offering its users an option to convert the temporarily suspended waste packages into shares of the above-mentioned fund.

The application for the registration and activation of the fund has been already submitted and is now to be authorized by the respective banking authority; the update will follow immediately once the approval has been given.

We would like to encourage the entire supportive Recyclix community to work together to fully restore the business activities as soon as possible.

Despite of what happened; Recyclix management is determined to move forward to solve all the current issues in an efficient and rapid way. We are convinced that with your understanding and support Recyclix will be back on the stage of the big European Recycling companies very soon."

In what world do you live? The prosecution from long time track activities of Recyclix. Now it's a matter of time that will shut this "business" down!
Why no one respond to Newsweek article in Poland? They officialy call Recyclix Ponzi scheme!
Better pack your waste and run..


What would do I live in IM just posting what is shown on their site .   good grief . cry me a river will you
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" Recyclix is currently working on a solution of offering its users an option to convert the temporarily suspended waste packages into shares of the above-mentioned fund.

The application for the registration and activation of the fund has been already submitted and is now to be authorized by the respective banking authority; the update will follow immediately once the approval has been given.

We would like to encourage the entire supportive Recyclix community to work together to fully restore the business activities as soon as possible.

Despite of what happened; Recyclix management is determined to move forward to solve all the current issues in an efficient and rapid way. We are convinced that with your understanding and support Recyclix will be back on the stage of the big European Recycling companies very soon."

In what world do you live? The prosecution from long time track activities of Recyclix. Now it's a matter of time that will shut this "business" down!
Why no one respond to Newsweek article in Poland? They officialy call Recyclix Ponzi scheme!
Better pack your waste and run..


What would do I live in IM just posting what is shown on their site .   good grief . cry me a river will you
Question at the beginning of my post is a bit confusing.. Sorry for that. (but your red tag also does not look positive Wink )
I wrote about Recyclix, only the last words have been directly to you.. If you didn't put your money there - lucky you!

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I've been watching this scam unfold and it's been pretty hilarious.

Even at this stage in life, I can't believe someone was stupid enough to invest 50,000-60,000 thousand plus dollars into this turd ponzi scam garbage. I actually think it's recyclix shill accounts to drum up "support" and sucker more people in.

I thought scam.cc (scrypt.cc, now dead) was pretty elaborate.

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is that if this were a legitimate company, then WHY DIDN'T THEY HAVE INSURANCE?

EVERY legit BIG COMPANY has property insurance for EXACTLY these reasons!

Common sense people.

Ah well, good luck to anyone trying to get their money out. GG.

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I've been watching this scam unfold and it's been pretty hilarious.

Even at this stage in life, I can't believe someone was stupid enough to invest 50,000-60,000 thousand plus dollars into this turd ponzi scam garbage. I actually think it's recyclix shill accounts to drum up "support" and sucker more people in.

I thought scam.cc (scrypt.cc, now dead) was pretty elaborate.

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is that if this were a legitimate company, then WHY DIDN'T THEY HAVE INSURANCE?

EVERY legit BIG COMPANY has property insurance for EXACTLY these reasons!

Common sense people.

Ah well, good luck to anyone trying to get their money out. GG.

People fall for scams all the time but in this age of social media it's easier than ever. Scammers get you into an echo chamber and tell you what you want to hear, plus it costs them next to nothing to spread their crap to millions of people. Imagine sending out a million postcards in the olden days and then herding 1000s of victims into one room for months. Impossible.

Also Bitcoin/SEPA/credit cards/etc - quick, cheap, and easy ways to part fools with their money, some of them conveniently irreversible.

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