Cricket match prediction discussions

[wiss19]

OK.. still the number is higher with FIFA. I can list these ones:

1. FIFA World Cup
2. FIFA World Cup qualifiers
3. Confederations Cup
4. Olympic Games football competition
5. Olympic qualifiers

Anyway, I agree with the argument that it is very difficult to compare these two sports bodies. There is hardly any similarity, in terms of style of functioning and administration.

Here again main problem is mind set in FIFA and other sports authorities we have all members living with equal power and no one can black mail other members even recently we have few corruption news in FIFA and IOC but still these all are doing much better work but here in ICC we have personal likes and dislikes and few other political factors which are playing role for stopping things settle in positive way.

All members accept decisions from relative committees doing their positive role for bringing more attraction in game but in ICC they never do anything which help all members mostly favoring B-4 is having big impact on negativity of this game. If they want to do changes then foremost give equal power to all members and increase strength of these members between 16 and 20 is acceptable and then bring rules which could be acceptable for all, hopefully we will grow quickly.

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[BobK71]

INDIA vs ENGLAND
England did not perform well in the last T20 match. They lost all their wickets in 149 runs. However, many are speculating that though their batting side is comparatively good but bowling action is not good enough against India . Where India also wants to defeat their bowling. In the 2nd T20 match England can defeat India? However, there will have another T20 match soon. Let's see what happens to them.

You can discuss this T20I match in T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion.

Anyway, I agree with the argument that it is very difficult to compare these two sports bodies. There is hardly any similarity, in terms of style of functioning and administration.

Cricket is a game that is hijacked by big 3 countries and there is no roam for small boards and associate teams here. While FIFA is quite matured and decentralized federation. We cant compare these two federations, at least for a decade.

Agree with you and ask a question, Is the ICC getting the same freedom as FIFA? The answer is very simple, “No”. Many people think that ICC is being regulated by some big countries. However, such allegations against a large organization is not desirable in anyway. I think it is a big threat to cricket world. We want it to become an independent organization.  Though it is not possible for icc to take the position like FIFA but have the possibility to get the reliable position.

[Tony116]

We all know that most of the revenue of International Cricket council comes from India whether it is 70%-80 or 90% India should get a bigger share out of this, but the International Cricket Council should not behave like hired ***

I don't agree with this logic. In sports such as football and baseball, the vast majority of the revenues come from Europe and the US. But that doesn't give them access to a larger share of funds. They get as much funds as everyone else receive. So why an exception should be given for cricket. And this argument came up only during the Srinivasan-Pawar years. Before that, the revenue distribution of the ICC used to be very uniform for all the countries. But at the same time, there is no point in providing Zimbabwe with the same amount of funds as that for India.

How many WC/ Tourney does FIFA have in comparison to ICC?

ICC have 10 tournament in this decade and WTC is not included.
2022 T-20 WC
2023 ODI WC
2024 T-20 WC
2025 Champions Trophy
2026 T-20 WC
2027 ODI WC
2028 T-20 WC
2029 Champions Trophy
2030 T-20 WC
2021 Champions Trophy

ICC can have 1 WC every 4 years and then they could follow FIFA type system, if not then it's not fair and might look like a new form of colonization.

In football, we can see that the main competition among the four years is club competition and cricket is obviously different. Because in cricket international competition is mainstream. Club cricket is an exceptional one. 

That's why the IPL has a lot of popularity. So, if ICC wants to have 1 world cup every 4 years it is going to cause a lot of problems. In addition, they are also not going to get the revenue that they do from the other tournaments. A lot of smaller teams will also not get the chance to showcase their talent on bigger stages.

[Smack That Ace]

With regard now I am feeling ICC can go through like FIFA if they want to secure this game of cricket and surely this is going to increase their revenue as well just stop this ODI drama because this is waste of time nothing positive going to happen with this in near future and Champions Trophy is also dead idea which is having not good impact on game mean this is going to be good with this all T-20 after every two years and WTC is also needed to be with same passage like two years surely going to be good for them and all other members.

If FIFA can give WC to Qatar then surely we can also do this T-20 WC to every country, and it's going to increase some good revenue of this country and ICC as well. Just take some positive steps and change this all crap calendar for better future of game with T-20 and WTC is enough for us with T-20 is going to be 16 teams event which will help for improve of quality.

The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.


Regards

Duke

[fullhdpixel]

The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.

As I mention already we need equality like FIFA but here no one agree about this because B-4 is surely want to enjoy big stake in revenue which is never been good even they are having control but if they agree in terms with others then surely they can develop positively and have few good things for promotion of this game cricket, but they are never listening about any positive idea even personal likes and dislikes have big impact like India not playing against Pakistan, but ICC can't do anything which is surely a problem and ICC can use their power, but they are not doing anything.

Like in other sports associations they can pursue them for playing at neutral places which can bring positive things but here they are enjoying this all and still have mind like divide and rule policy.

[TheGreatPython]

With regard now I am feeling ICC can go through like FIFA if they want to secure this game of cricket and surely this is going to increase their revenue as well just stop this ODI drama because this is waste of time nothing positive going to happen with this in near future and Champions Trophy is also dead idea which is having not good impact on game mean this is going to be good with this all T-20 after every two years and WTC is also needed to be with same passage like two years surely going to be good for them and all other members.

If FIFA can give WC to Qatar then surely we can also do this T-20 WC to every country, and it's going to increase some good revenue of this country and ICC as well. Just take some positive steps and change this all crap calendar for better future of game with T-20 and WTC is enough for us with T-20 is going to be 16 teams event which will help for improve of quality.

The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.

I disagree, it's not going to have any revolution in cricket it's just a hype which is trying to create for this
because right now even BCCI is not sure about this WIPL when to do and how things will go as they are fearing lost of some good revenue through this which is surely big deal for them as currently they are enjoying good handsome amount from IPL, and they never want to lose this in this experiment which is not sure could be success or no.

With we all know how things are happening in subcontinent we can't compare these with Australia or England even right now Indian women's team is doing good job around the world, and they are at fourth in both formats but still plenty of things to do because right now few teams are improving quality and this could be vital in near future.

[Sithara007]

In football, we can see that the main competition among the four years is club competition and cricket is obviously different. Because in cricket international competition is mainstream. Club cricket is an exceptional one. 

That's why the IPL has a lot of popularity. So, if ICC wants to have 1 world cup every 4 years it is going to cause a lot of problems. In addition, they are also not going to get the revenue that they do from the other tournaments. A lot of smaller teams will also not get the chance to showcase their talent on bigger stages.

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

[eaLiTy]

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The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.

People watch Football during World Cups and Euro Tournaments and i think majority are forgetting that. The major crowd pulling matches in Football are club tournaments and FIFA has nothing to do with those which is played every year.

For Cricket to get included in the Olympics the respective boards has to support the decision of ICC and only a major collaborative decision can make changes and ICC cannot take decisions single handedly nor does any sports body FYI.

[fullhdpixel]

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.

But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

[Smack That Ace]

The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.

I disagree, it's not going to have any revolution in cricket it's just a hype which is trying to create for this
because right now even BCCI is not sure about this WIPL when to do and how things will go as they are fearing lost of some good revenue through this which is surely big deal for them as currently they are enjoying good handsome amount from IPL, and they never want to lose this in this experiment which is not sure could be success or no.
With we all know how things are happening in subcontinent we can't compare these with Australia or England even right now Indian women's team is doing good job around the world, and they are at fourth in both formats but still plenty of things to do because right now few teams are improving quality and this could be vital in near future.

You will never be able to sell your own product if you don't believe in it yourself. BCCI really has to believe that the WIPL is going to be really effective otherwise it won't be likely to be successful. I don't see why it is not going to be a revolution in cricket. We do have women's T20 leagues in other countries but in this region, this is likely to be the first.

People watch Football during World Cups and Euro Tournaments and i think majority are forgetting that. The major crowd pulling matches in Football are club tournaments and FIFA has nothing to do with those which is played every year.

For Cricket to get included in the Olympics the respective boards has to support the decision of ICC and only a major collaborative decision can make changes and ICC cannot take decisions single handedly nor does any sports body FYI.

Well, in that case, the cricket boards are responsible. This is because there is no reason why they should not let the team perform in the Olympics or against smaller teams. In the same vein, big teams and boards like BCCI should stop thinking of themselves as premium. Instead, they should start thinking about how to make the game better in the long run.

As I mention already we need equality like FIFA but here no one agree about this because B-4 is surely want to enjoy big stake in revenue which is never been good even they are having control but if they agree in terms with others then surely they can develop positively and have few good things for promotion of this game cricket, but they are never listening about any positive idea even personal likes and dislikes have big impact like India not playing against Pakistan, but ICC can't do anything which is surely a problem and ICC can use their power, but they are not doing anything.

Like in other sports associations they can pursue them for playing at neutral places which can bring positive things but here they are enjoying this all and still have mind like divide and rule policy.

I know that in every fault, both the big four boards and ICC has equal hands. Most teams in the world are currently interested in playing cricket, but the ICC has never really reached out to them and invited them to play regularly and professionally. Otherwise, I don't think cricket is a sport that cannot be interesting to a certain amount of people all over the world.



Thanks
Duke

[eaLiTy]

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like India not playing against Pakistan, but ICC can't do anything which is surely a problem and ICC can use their power, but they are not doing anything.

Like in other sports associations they can pursue them for playing at neutral places which can bring positive things but here they are enjoying this all and still have mind like divide and rule policy.

You are not trying to understand the power ICC has in bilateral tournaments, since these topics keeps on arising, ICC cannot enforce any team to play bilateral series, respective boards have to take that decision, ICC will only officiate the match if a match takes place. If India or Pakistan or any other team refuses to play in a tournament ICC conducts then they can take any decision but as everyone knows, India and Pakistan will play ICC tournaments with any issue and in that situation ICC cannot do anything out of the box even if they want to see them play bilateral series.

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Well, in that case, the cricket boards are responsible. This is because there is no reason why they should not let the team perform in the Olympics or against smaller teams. In the same vein, big teams and boards like BCCI should stop thinking of themselves as premium. Instead, they should start thinking about how to make the game better in the long run.

BCCI showed its support for the ICC in including Cricket for the 2028 Olympics and from what i understand they will be pitching the proposal to the Olympic committee and hopefully we will see Cricket in the Los Angeles Olympics or in the next Brisbane Olympics in 2032.

[vennali]

BCCI showed its support for the ICC in including Cricket for the 2028 Olympics and from what i understand they will be pitching the proposal to the Olympic committee and hopefully we will see Cricket in the Los Angeles Olympics or in the next Brisbane Olympics in 2032.

Recently read an article that ICC is confident that Cricket will be included in the LA Olympics 2028. They stated that "One of our strategic priorities is to get into the LA Olympics. The decision is made by the IOC in consultation with the LOC of LA28. All we can do is put our best foot forward and hope that cricket is taken into LA" That was said by the ICC chairman. Hopefully it gets included. At the moment, ICC hasnt gotten any invitation to the LA Olympics though. I personally feel that cricket has a better chance to be included in the olympics in Australia. Which will be in 2032.

[Tony116]

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.
But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Ever since IPL is introduced, icc went completely in control of bcci while CA and ECB already have tight control over icc. If cricket need to grow then icc must also give weight to opinion of small boards and associate teams. It's best in interest of big 3 that cricket remains confined to these 10 countries only.

[BobK71]

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.
But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Cricket is limited with in few of countries. The conditions of this cricket could have changed if ICC had not been biased. Now a days ICC regarded as one of the weak organization in the world to be compared to FIFA in any way. It is not unknown to anyone that ICC does not work without the guidance of the three countries. So in order for this organization to survive, it must show a generous attitude towards every country. Small and big should be given equal importance.

[sovie]

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.

But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

I am not sure - why ICC has always been so controversial. They have not been able to win the trust of the players and the fans.
The point you have mentioned that they do not listen because they don't have a progressive approach is also somewhat correct. Let's see maybe in coming days ICC comes up with some good decisions.

[Tony116]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Cricket is limited with in few of countries. The conditions of this cricket could have changed if ICC had not been biased. Now a days ICC regarded as one of the weak organization in the world to be compared to FIFA in any way. It is not unknown to anyone that ICC does not work without the guidance of the three countries. So in order for this organization to survive, it must show a generous attitude towards every country. Small and big should be given equal importance.

But we all know that the ICC is very scared to do its own shit. They really don’t want to get in the way of whatever the big four are doing. If ICC actually does end up doing something that will offend the big four, I think the countries will come up with an idea of replacing the personnel who does that. And the smaller countries are also going to support the big four because they will be promised a few tours here and there. So, unless it is their decision taken by all of the ICC personnel collectively it is not going to work.

[tbterryboy]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Ever since IPL is introduced, icc went completely in control of bcci while CA and ECB already have tight control over icc. If cricket need to grow then icc must also give weight to opinion of small boards and associate teams. It's best in interest of big 3 that cricket remains confined to these 10 countries only.

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.

Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

[Sithara007]

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.

Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

I mentioned this before. There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

[DanWalker]

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.
Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

I mentioned this before. There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

I think we need to find ways to make cricket popular and obviously, that is not possible if the ICC itself does not want that in the first place. Obviously, ICC is not controlled by ex-cricketers and most of the leading personnel of ICC are businessmen. So, it is obvious that they will be looking for revenue rather than thinking about popularizing the game. And I know we cannot do anything. We just have to accept it but cricket is not going to survive for a long period of time if this keeps on happening.