[URGENT WARNING] BiPolarBob: MASTER Scammer

[Finchy]

6. He's got you trained. He uses greed against you. So many people throw BTC at him to get that sweet deal! $20 gift cards today, $2000 gift cards tomorrow. And then he vanishes after hundreds of people buy their discounted $2000 card, and receive nothing!

As per quickerseller's evidence I think he would have to scam a lot for this long con to be worth it. I think suspicion on him is warranted but I'm not sure if he is going to scam now. If he did a massive giveaway I think a lot of people would be weary and not do it.

Can a single fact be argued? No. Where do we go from here? It's obvious, make him red trust. Then see what he does. He will leave forever with his tail between his legs because that's the scammer he is!

Even if a few people gave him negative his 'fans' would ignore it and send him money any way so I doubt it'd make a difference. Might stop some newbies sending to him though I suppose.

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[ranochigo]

Do you REALLY think he's doing this out of the goodness of his heart? Read on, friends.

Facts of this case
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1. He buys trust. Plain and simple. Giveaways involve NO trust. Nothing is at risk. This is a FACT: it cannot be argued. 'Trust buyers' are guaranteed scammers.

2. He won't use escrow. Want to know why? His gift cards are purchased with stolen credit cards. Escrow would expose his scam instantly. Think about it, don't be a fool. Would any TRUSTED member here refuse escrow? Of COURSE not.

3. A detailed analysis of his giveaways shows a STRONG bias towards people in default trust. Newbies can't make you green, can they Bob?

4. Faking a mental illness to get sympathy.

5. ZERO participation in forum discussions. As with every scammer, they are here to con & not to chat.

6. He's got you trained. He uses greed against you. So many people throw BTC at him to get that sweet deal! $20 gift cards today, $2000 gift cards tomorrow. And then he vanishes after hundreds of people buy their discounted $2000 card, and receive nothing!



Can a single fact be argued? No. Where do we go from here? It's obvious, make him red trust. Then see what he does. He will leave forever with his tail between his legs because that's the scammer he is!

Boycott his giveaways. Even free BTC. His coin is stolen, guaranteed. This is the next MASTER scammer in the making. I am warning you early so give me thanks.

1. When I was a member/full member(?), he gave me 0.25BTC, worth about more than $60. I certainly didn't know my trust would be worth that much. He never had asked any positive feedback from me either.
2. I have bought some of his gift cards and none of them has ever turned invalid or scam. I personally feel that it's fine to not use escrow when it is $2 and he have a proven good record. And what can he give out scam gift cards when he gives people when they donates to sean outpost? If they turn invalid, he would definitely get red trust.
3. Nope, normal full member has been able to claim those giveaways as well. Not only those from default trust.
4. Proof?
5. I don't see any problem in doing such thing. He doesn't contribute actively and it isn't much of a problem considering the amount of (sig) spammers.
6. I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to pay $20+ for a gift card if it is too good to be true. BiPolarBob has given I believe more than thousands of dollars in BTC. No reason for him to ruin the account.

No one has been arrested for getting those 'stolen' BTC. And what would he gain by giving out BTC to normal members.

[Muhammed Zakir]

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1. He buys trust. Plain and simple. Giveaways involve NO trust. Nothing is at risk. This is a FACT: it cannot be argued. 'Trust buyers' are guaranteed scammers.

He does not ask users to leave trust feedback.

2. He won't use escrow.

Can you please show me some instances where he declined using escrow?

Want to know why? His gift cards are purchased with stolen credit cards. Escrow would expose his scam instantly. {...}

How can escrow identify his gift cards are purchased with stolen credit cards? Besides, most of the times, he sends first and hence, there is no need for escrow unless if he wants.

3. A detailed analysis of his giveaways shows a STRONG bias towards people in default trust. Newbies can't make you green, can they Bob?

Although I agree that he has traded many times with people in default trust, he has also gave a lot of gifts to other people.

4. Faking a mental illness to get sympathy.

How do you know?

5. ZERO participation in forum discussions. As with every scammer, they are here to con & not to chat.

You are wrong! There were (many) scammers who were active.

6. He's got you trained. He uses greed against you. So many people throw BTC at him to get that sweet deal! $20 gift cards today, $2000 gift cards tomorrow. And then he vanishes after hundreds of people buy their discounted $2000 card, and receive nothing!

He has donated money to charities and has also repaid a few loans. How can he profit anything from this?

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Can a single fact be argued? No. Where do we go from here? It's obvious, make him red trust. Then see what he does. He will leave forever with his tail between his legs because that's the scammer he is!

Fact? These are conspiracy theories or speculation.

Boycott his giveaways. Even free BTC. His coin is stolen, guaranteed. This is the next MASTER scammer in the making. I am warning you early so give me thanks.

How do you know they are stolen? Please don't tell me your sixth sense told you so.

[Mitchell]

Don't forgot that grue and ssateneth checked one of his accounts that he used to buy giftcards.

I just bought a $100 gift card from him. Obviously I was concerned about chargeback risk, but he offered to let me log into his gyft account and verify the gift cards myself. After checking out his account, I can safely say that all of his purchases on gyft were made using bitcoin (no chargeback risk!). His deals may sound insane, but he's legit.

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So I heard there was some naysayers in this thread. One person even claimed that BPB paid for the gift cards with stolen credit cards.

I can say this is not the case.

BPB myself were talking and he proved that not only is he extra CrAzY, he is also legitimate. None of the GCs he's sold here (or elsewhere) for ridiculously low rates are paid though illegitimate means. They were all paid for with BTC. But how do I know this?

Well, we worked something out, and he shared with me his secrets. He is just genuinely a nice guy that likes to give away good deals to the community.

He gets his gift cards from gyft.com, which also accepts BTC as a form of payment. He allowed me to log into his account and personally verify every GC was paid for with BTC, which as we all know, is irreversible.

proof of previous GC cards being purchased with BTC: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof1.jpg

But, hey, this might be some random person's login? Well, we worked out a CrAzY deal for myself. I managed to score a MASSIVE amazon gift card from him. He paid for it with BTC in his own login session on his PC, and allowed me to view the code myself (I forgot to make a screenshot of the screen that shows before it reveals the code, but oh well)

$1000 amazon card purchased: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof2.jpg
Forgot to screengrab before I revealed the code, but here it is after I revealed it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof5.jpg
BTC payment showing on blockchain: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof3.jpg
He also paid me from the same address to confirm it was his: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof4.jpg

I was able to add it to my amazon account without a hitch: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof6.jpg
And use it towards the purchase of a shiny new computer CPU: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof7.jpg
Order placed: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9768004/proof/proof8.jpg

So he is simply an extra crazy, but charitable person. He has a number of BTCTalk forum +rep's and some +rep's on #bitcoin-otc (He was able to tell me in IRC PM what I PM'd him in the forum, linking the two account). For the foreseeable future, you can trust this guy to hold up his end.

But guys, PLEASE, remember to exercise caution with "too good to be true" deals. While BPB's case really is true, it's very atypical, and people should exercise caution and do their research before making a decision when trading on similar "too good to be true" deals.

EDIT: Also, he almost never asks upfront payments. If he does, you could refuse to do business with him if you don't trust it.

[Scam Investigator]

Hello friends

I have done more investigating on this scammer and discovered nobody has verified the source of his gift cards (except once by a forum mod). But that was a long time ago and only for Amazon cards.

So I believe has been carded after that point. Who knows. Maybe he even reached ROI on his scam by now?

Need more evidence?

Well I sent him a PM and said that my alt was in default trust. Guess what? He asked me if I needed any Amazon or Steam.

Guaranteed trust buyer and scammer I'd say! Why else would be be so 'kind' only AFTER I said default trust?

But there is more to this story........

I'm thinking he is (or is a alt of) QuickSeller. I'm still figuring out the chicken & egg thing but more proof will follow. My current estimate is 85% of his giveaway receipients are accounts owned by QuickSeller.

This scam investigator is putting in overtime!!


Post Script: He just 'purchased' trust from SebastianJu. Check if yourself if you don't believe it.

[Superhitech]

Hello friends

I have done more investigating on this scammer and discovered nobody has verified the source of his gift cards (except once by a forum mod). But that was a long time ago and only for Amazon cards.

He has been verified twice by 2 members, (See Mitchell's post) and those Amazon cards were bought from Gyft, which is a trusted site that sells gift cards, and all his purchases on gyft were made using bitcoin, which is irreversible.

Well I sent him a PM and said that my alt was in default trust. Guess what? He asked me if I needed any Amazon or Steam.

Guaranteed trust buyer and scammer I'd say! Why else would be be so 'kind' only AFTER I said default trust?

Maybe because he doesn't care if he gets negative trust? And just wants to offer you an Amazon/Steam gift card because he is a kind person.

I'm thinking he is (or is a alt of) QuickSeller. I'm still figuring out the chicken & egg thing but more proof will follow. My current estimate is 85% of his giveaway receipients are accounts owned by QuickSeller.

With all the drama surrounding QuickSeller, Badbear has recently stated that QuickSeller doesn't have any notable alts that BadBear knows of. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12358580#msg12358580)

[Scam Investigator]

He has been verified twice by 2 members, (See Mitchell's post) and those Amazon cards were bought from Gyft, which is a trusted site that sells gift cards, and all his purchases on gyft were made using bitcoin, which is irreversible.

You seem very slow so let me explain it again. YES those were verified as valid. I never denied it. But that was a long time ago. Everything after that is likely carded & stolen. He knew he didn't have to prove himself again.

Maybe because he doesn't care if he gets negative trust? And just wants to offer you an Amazon/Steam gift card because he is a kind person.

His kindness is only to people who can give him green trust. I'd say he cares about it plenty!

With all the drama surrounding QuickSeller, Badbear has recently stated that QuickSeller doesn't have any notable alts that BadBear knows of. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12358580#msg12358580)

THAT HE KNOWS OF.

[Mitchell]

No. I've had (and still have) a lot of contact with BPB and I'm 100% sure that he is not an alt of QS. He writes nowhere close like QS does, nor does anything else matches.

Need more evidence?

Well I sent him a PM and said that my alt was in default trust. Guess what? He asked me if I needed any Amazon or Steam.

That's easy to say. Anything to back that up?

His kindness is only to people who can give him green trust. I'd say he cares about it plenty!

That must be why he was giving away free BTC yesterday.

[Scam Investigator]

No. I've had (and still have) a lot of contact with BPB and I'm 100% sure that he is not an alt of QS. He writes nowhere close like QS does, nor does anything else matches.

QS's alts have had different writing styles. You are stupid or naive.

Or. Based on the 100 times you gave BiPolarBob trust more likely you are a paid cronie.

[Mitchell]

QS's alts have had different writing styles. You are stupid or naive.

Or. Based on the 100 times you gave BiPolarBob trust more likely you are a paid cronie.

Panthers52 did write a bit different than QS, but it's easy to spot now. BPB does not write like either of them. And I'll be whatever you want me to be baby.

[Scam Investigator]

does anyone find it strange that a forum STAFF member has claimed more of BPB/QS freebies than anyone else?

The plot thickens

[Mitchell]

does anyone find it strange that a forum STAFF member has claimed more of BPB/QS freebies than anyone else?

The plot thickens

Grasping straws, aren't we? Why not target haploid23 or cooldgamer? He gave BPB a lot more trust than I did and they even has more trust than me!
I'm just a boring old patroller and Dutch board moderator.

[Scam Investigator]

does anyone find it strange that a forum STAFF member has claimed more of BPB/QS freebies than anyone else?

The plot thickens

Grasping straws, aren't we? Why not target haploid23 or cooldgamer? He gave BPB a lot more trust than I did and even has more trust than me!

grasping at straws indeed! I have investigated those people and it is the same as you. lots of gifts for lots of trust!

Keep singing his praises. It is part of being on his payroll.

[Lauda]

grasping at straws indeed! I have investigated those people and it is the same as you. lots of gifts for lots of trust!

Keep singing his praises. It is part of being on his payroll.

Mitchell received a lot of those freebies before he even became staff. He actually recommended BiPolarBob to me, as I had not noticed him at that time. Before you continue your nonsense provide real evidence, or this thread is just pointless.

[Mitchell]

grasping at straws indeed! I have investigated those people and it is the same as you. lots of gifts for lots of trust!

Keep singing his praises. It is part of being on his payroll.

Mitchell received a lot of those freebies before he even became staff. He actually recommended BiPolarBob to me, as I had not noticed him at that time. Before you continue your nonsense provide real evidence, or this thread is just pointless.

To make this even more clear, I've been mod since around 07 January 2015. The first time I rated BPB was 26 September 2014 and I've been talking with him since the beginning and friends with him for a long time now.

[Scam Investigator]

grasping at straws indeed! I have investigated those people and it is the same as you. lots of gifts for lots of trust!

Keep singing his praises. It is part of being on his payroll.

Mitchell received a lot of those freebies before he even became staff. He actually recommended BiPolarBob to me, as I had not noticed him at that time. Before you continue your nonsense provide real evidence, or this thread is just pointless.

Yes or no   have you gotten a gift from BiPolarBob?

And I will repeat this because you seem to be an idiot. I am dealing in FACTs. Now tell me which of these are NOT facts?

FACT #1: A forum staff member has received many gifts and given many trust to BiPolarBob
FACT #2: The other people who have gotten many gifts are also people in high trust
FACT #3: The people in here who defend him are all biased because they received something from him

[Lauda]

Yes or no   have you gotten a gift from BiPolarBob?

And I will repeat this because you seem to be an idiot. I am dealing in FACTs. Now tell me which of these are NOT facts?

FACT #1: A forum staff member has received many gifts and given many trust to BiPolarBob
FACT #2: The other people who have gotten many gifts are also people in high trust
FACT #3: The people in here who defend him are all biased because they received something from him

No, I have not. I still do not see your 'real evidence'.
1) Nothing special about this.
2) Not always, this makes me think that you're mad for not getting something.
3) Wrong. I have never received anything (aside from buying a code once) from him and yet I'm defending him. Just because people received something from someone that does not mean that they will agree with that person on all of his actions.
Update:
I have never commented anything about the relations about to QS. I was never intentionally trying to divert the thread. You are just spreading nonsense.

[Scam Investigator]

as for the real evidence demand. It worries me that LaudaM staff doesn't understand what this section is for.

Things that are concerning or suspicious are fine to post. It doesn't have to be hard evidence right away. It is for the community to investigate.

Also here is another FACT

These 2 staff members derailed my findings of QS and BPB as alts and moved this dicussion into a different direction. Might not be hard evidence but this is clearly suspicious how they pop up out nowhere and do this. 

[Quickseller]

I'm thinking he is (or is a alt of) QuickSeller. I'm still figuring out the chicken & egg thing but more proof will follow. My current estimate is 85% of his giveaway receipients are accounts owned by QuickSeller.

If anyone wants to use escrow when dealing with BPB, I will be willing to provide my escrow services, provided that you pay the fee

[Scam Investigator]

I'm thinking he is (or is a alt of) QuickSeller. I'm still figuring out the chicken & egg thing but more proof will follow. My current estimate is 85% of his giveaway receipients are accounts owned by QuickSeller.

If anyone wants to use escrow when dealing with BPB, I will be willing to provide my escrow services, provided that you pay the fee

Offering to escrow for an alt of his (again). This is PRICELESS

I learned in investigations. Make the accusation and let the guilty speak up. QuickSeller LaudaM and Mitchell are proof this works