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August 01, 2015, 03:41:30 PM
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Thursday 30 July 2015 - Six revellers attacked by Yishai Schlissel, recently released from prison after serving 10 years for stabbing three people at gay pride parade in 2005

A religious protester armed with a knife has run amok during Jerusalem’s gay pride march, stabbing six people – one woman seriously – in the worst incident of homophobic violence in the city in a decade.

According to eyewitnesses, the attacker – named by a police spokesman as Yishai Schlissel – had hidden himself in a supermarket and waited for the march to arrive.

They described seeing Schlissel, an ultra-Orthodox Jew who had been released from prison three weeks earlier after serving a sentence for stabbing several people at a gay pride parade in 2005, run screaming through the crowd in a central Jerusalem street, stabbing people at random before being overpowered by police.

An Associated Press photographer pictured Schlissel, heavily bearded and dressed in religious clothes, shortly before he began his attack, walking through the crowd with his hand inside his jacket apparently hiding a knife from view. Another image, taken seconds later, showed him running through the crowd pursued closely by police, holding the weapon aloft.

A paramedic named Hanoch Zelinger, who treated the wounded at the scene, said the woman had been seriously injured, with stab wounds to the back, chest and neck.

The march, which attracts thousands of participants, has long been a focus of tension between Israel’s predominantly secular majority and the ultra-Orthodox Jewish minority, who object to homosexuality. While the event takes place annually without incident in the more gay-friendly business hub of Tel Aviv, in Jerusalem, where the religious population is more dominant, violence has erupted in the past.

Zoe Shoshei, aged 18, told the Guardian she was knocked over as the attacker stabbed a man she was talking to in the back. I saw him stab one man who was wearing heels and shorty shorts and the man I was talking to who was wearing ordinary clothes. He knocked me over. I saw he had a very big knife. He stabbed the man next to me in the back so hard it was, like, ‘I hate you!’” Noah Singer, 17, added: “He did it so hard. He was running and stabbing.”

Another eyewitness, Ayala Baker, 20, said: “We were walking and singing. Then I heard a girl screaming really loudly. I turned and saw people running. I saw a guy running and the cops chasing him. I was really scared. There were people hurt. I saw his eyes. They were just filled with hate.”

Images in the Israeli media showed the moment that Schlissel, held down by several police, was arrested.

The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, condemned the attack “as a most serious incident”. “In the state of Israel, the individual’s freedom of choice is one of basic values. We must ensure that in Israel, every man and woman lives in security in any way they choose. That’s how we acted in the past and how we’ll continue to act. I wish the wounded a speedy recovery,” he said in a statement.

Israel’s president, Reuven Rivlin, also quickly condemned the attack. “We came together today for a festive event, but the joy was shattered when a terrible hate crime occurred here in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel. People celebrating their freedom and expressing their identity were viciously stabbed.

“We must not be deluded: a lack of tolerance will lead us to disaster. We cannot allow such crimes, and we must condemn those who commit and support them. I wish the injured a full and speedy recovery.”

Schlissel, who lives in Modiin Ilit, a settlement in the West Bank, stabbed three participants in the 2005 gay pride march and was recently released from prison after serving 10 years of a 12-year sentence for attempted murder. According to Israeli media, after his release he had distributed handwritten pamphlets calling on “all Jews faithful to God” to risk “beatings and imprisonment” for the sake of preventing the parade.

On Thursday, a Jerusalem police spokesman, Asi Ahroni, said there was a “massive presence” of police securing the parade but “unfortunately the man managed to pull out a knife and attack”.

The parade continued after the wounded were taken to a hospital, with protesters chanting, “End the violence.”

Oded Fried, the head of a leading gay rights group, said the attack would not deter the movement. “Our struggle for equality only intensifies in the face of such events,” he said.

Another attack on Israel’s homosexual community occurred in 2009 when a gunman attacked a centre for young gay people in Tel Aviv, killing two and wounding 15 others. The Jewish state repealed a ban on consensual same-sex sexual acts in 1988.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/30/up-to-six-stabbed-at-gay-pride-march-in-jerusalem

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August 01, 2015, 03:43:28 PM
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Sounds pretty horrific but this hasn't got anything to do with bitcoin has it? Should probably be in a different section, sorry.

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August 01, 2015, 03:44:40 PM
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I bet it's some islamic group doing it.


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August 01, 2015, 03:46:21 PM
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Hi beliathon, nice to see you here. But seems your posting should be in politic & society section like usual, there is nothing about bitcoin in your posting  Smiley Well this article makes me wondering, why those gays made a parade in holy city like Jerussalem? Sometime they have crossed the line with their action since US have legalized same sex marriage.
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August 01, 2015, 03:49:45 PM
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I bet it's some islamic group doing it.

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They described seeing Schlissel, an ultra-Orthodox Jew who had been released from prison three weeks earlier....

This is the part you missed out Wink

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August 01, 2015, 03:52:34 PM
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I bet it's some islamic group doing it.

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They described seeing Schlissel, an ultra-Orthodox Jew who had been released from prison three weeks earlier....

This is the part you missed out Wink

BTW Wrong section it doesnot belong in bitcoin discussions should be moved.

I think they lied. Since when does this happen in Israel? It's got to be muslims.


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August 01, 2015, 03:55:22 PM
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Sounds pretty horrific but this hasn't got anything to do with bitcoin has it? Should probably be in a different section, sorry.
Yes it should, I meant to put this in politics & society, just reported it to mods for move request.

I think they lied. Since when does this happen in Israel? It's got to be muslims.
He's an ultra-orthodox jew, there's a video

https://embed.theguardian.com/embed/video/world/video/2015/jul/30/ultra-orthodox-arrested-jerusalem-gay-pride-stabbing-video

Well this article makes me wondering, why those gays made a parade in holy city like Jerussalem?
It's only a Holy city if you're religious.

Israel is today majority secular jews (cultural only). These people, especially the younger generation, are totally fine with homosexuality.

41.5% of the Jewish population are secular jews. They identify as being Jewish because they serve in the Israel Defense Forces (army), they celebrate Jewish holidays (usually not in strict conformity with Jewish Law), and speak Hebrew.
38.5% of the Jewish population in Israel are Masorti/Traditional Jews
20% of the Jewish population identifies as Orthodox (dati) or or ultra-Orthodox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Israel

So this one asshole representing a dying 20% Orthodox jews decided he would stab some people because he didn't like the way they were sharing orgasms. Fuck religion, and fuck this dude.

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August 01, 2015, 04:45:37 PM
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Well this article makes me wondering, why those gays made a parade in holy city like Jerussalem?
It's only a Holy city if you're religious.

Israel is today majority secular jews (cultural only). These people, especially the younger generation, are totally fine with homosexuality.

41.5% of the Jewish population are secular jews. They identify as being Jewish because they serve in the Israel Defense Forces (army), they celebrate Jewish holidays (usually not in strict conformity with Jewish Law), and speak Hebrew.
38.5% of the Jewish population in Israel are Masorti/Traditional Jews
20% of the Jewish population identifies as Orthodox (dati) or or ultra-Orthodox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Israel

So this one asshole representing a dying 20% Orthodox jews decided he would stab some people because he didn't like the way they were sharing orgasms. Fuck religion, and fuck this dude.
Yeah I'm a religion person, and I categorize Jerussalem as a holy city. I dont care with LGBT rights in whole Israel, but why they did parade in Jerussalem. LGBT activists have made many provocation acts to religion people since US recognized them. I think in short time they will do it again, in Vatican or Middle East country maybe.
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Well this article makes me wondering, why those gays made a parade in holy city like Jerussalem?
It's only a Holy city if you're religious.

Israel is today majority secular jews (cultural only). These people, especially the younger generation, are totally fine with homosexuality.

41.5% of the Jewish population are secular jews. They identify as being Jewish because they serve in the Israel Defense Forces (army), they celebrate Jewish holidays (usually not in strict conformity with Jewish Law), and speak Hebrew.
38.5% of the Jewish population in Israel are Masorti/Traditional Jews
20% of the Jewish population identifies as Orthodox (dati) or or ultra-Orthodox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Israel

So this one asshole representing a dying 20% Orthodox jews decided he would stab some people because he didn't like the way they were sharing orgasms. Fuck religion, and fuck this dude.
Yeah I'm a religion person, and I categorize Jerussalem as a holy city. I dont care with LGBT rights in whole Israel, but why they did parade in Jerussalem. LGBT activists have made many provocation acts to religion people since US recognized them. I think in short time they will do it again, in Vatican or Middle East country maybe.

And so it's understandable they were stabbed for having crossed the line? For being provocative and having the parade in the holy city? You're just making the case that religious people can't handle views they don't like and some will react violently when confronted with them.


I bet it's some islamic group doing it.

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They described seeing Schlissel, an ultra-Orthodox Jew who had been released from prison three weeks earlier....

This is the part you missed out Wink

BTW Wrong section it doesnot belong in bitcoin discussions should be moved.

I think they lied. Since when does this happen in Israel? It's got to be muslims.

Don't think you know a lot about religious extremists if you think only muslisms could do this.

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August 01, 2015, 09:15:23 PM
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Can't believe he got out of prison and basically did the same thing to go back to prison. Takes a special kind of crazy to wait all that time and still be pissed off enough to go on another stabbing spree.
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August 02, 2015, 12:26:56 AM
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Meanwhile, people that throw rocks at armored vehicles can face up to 20 years in jail.

Looks fair and proportional


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August 02, 2015, 01:08:04 AM
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I bet it's some islamic group doing it.

I'm not a member of any islamic group nor in the islam religion but blaming them for this kind of event isn't right.

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August 02, 2015, 06:34:33 AM
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Jerusalem is regarded as a holy city by all the major religious groups in Israel (Jews, Muslims, and Christians). Also, a vast majority of the population in Jerusalem are Conservative or Orthodox (both Jews and Arabs). Among the Jerusalem Jews, some one-fifth are secular or liberal, while one-third are Haredi (ultra-Orthodox).

The point is that, these LGBT people are frequently taking out their pervert marches in Tel Aviv. No one opposes them there. They should have spared Jerusalem from their obscenities. First go to Mecca or Medina, and conduct a LGBT rally there. Then we can think about Jerusalem.

                               
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August 02, 2015, 01:50:59 PM
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Yeah I'm a religion person, and I categorize Jerussalem as a holy city. I dont care with LGBT rights in whole Israel, but why they did parade in Jerussalem. LGBT activists have made many provocation acts to religion people since US recognized them. I think in short time they will do it again, in Vatican or Middle East country maybe.

And so it's understandable they were stabbed for having crossed the line? For being provocative and having the parade in the holy city? You're just making the case that religious people can't handle views they don't like and some will react violently when confronted with them.
Well dont you think there are more other cities around there beside Jerusalem right? Why did they choose this city then? I assume it as a provocation, and imo sometime religion people cant hold their anger about it. Let me explain you, if religion people dont like LGBT doesnt mean we hate them. Actually we are trying to respect them, but why they crossed the line? There are other millions of city for them in this world to do parade!
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Yeah I'm a religion person, and I categorize Jerussalem as a holy city. I dont care with LGBT rights in whole Israel, but why they did parade in Jerussalem. LGBT activists have made many provocation acts to religion people since US recognized them. I think in short time they will do it again, in Vatican or Middle East country maybe.

And so it's understandable they were stabbed for having crossed the line? For being provocative and having the parade in the holy city? You're just making the case that religious people can't handle views they don't like and some will react violently when confronted with them.
Well dont you think there are more other cities around there beside Jerusalem right? Why did they choose this city then? I assume it as a provocation, and imo sometime religion people cant hold their anger about it. Let me explain you, if religion people dont like LGBT doesnt mean we hate them. Actually we are trying to respect them, but why they crossed the line? There are other millions of city for them in this world to do parade!

That's one thing I have noticed over time too. Many of the LGBT, AKA LGBTIQ, acts of "freedom" and pride are done to provoke Christians, to goad them, into being frustrated. It's also hypocritical, because they want to be free from those types of actions, yet continue to do them in Christian specific ways, such as choosing the city of Jerusalem.

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Yeah I'm a religion person
Than what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Don't you realize this is the place where religion comes to die?

Go hide in a church while we liberate the minds of your children and grandchildren from your dogmatic superstition.



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Yeah I'm a religion person
Than what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Don't you realize this is the place where religion comes to die?

Go hide in a church while we liberate the minds of your children and grandchildren from your dogmatic superstition.

Internet is the new church. There are sermons galore available to be watched at any time, night or day.

What was used for evil, will also be used for good.

Genesis 50:20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it all for good. He brought me to this position so I could save the lives of many people.

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Yeah I'm a religion person
Than what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Don't you realize this is the place where religion comes to die?

Go hide in a church while we liberate the minds of your children and grandchildren from your dogmatic superstition.



This is the beginning of the Age of Truth. Your time is over, theist.
Let me tell you something Beliathon. I know you are a gay, which you are struggling to get your right Undecided No? Then why do you care? You are a bullshit LGBT activist then, which you are addicted by only human rights logic!
You know what, YOU DIDNT CREATE THIS INTERNET, then you dont have any right to forbid other people using it.
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Yeah I'm a religion person
Than what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Don't you realize this is the place where religion comes to die?

Go hide in a church while we liberate the minds of your children and grandchildren from your dogmatic superstition.

This is the beginning of the Age of Truth. Your time is over, theist.
Let me tell you something Beliathon. I know you are a gay, which you are struggling to get your right Undecided No? Then why do you care? You are a bullshit LGBT activist then, which you are addicted by only human rights logic!
You know what, YOU DIDNT CREATE THIS INTERNET, then you dont have any right to forbid other people using it.

I've already shown him to be a hypocrite. He acts like he is totally tolerant, and wants everyone to be happy, and yet is totally intolerant of Christians, in particular, theists in general, to the point of calling people who disagree with him theists, before he even knows if they are or not. Just like he blamed Christianity for the boy shooting a transgender, with no indication of the boy's religion, the boy may have even been an atheist.

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August 02, 2015, 04:21:13 PM
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Yeah I'm a religion person
Than what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Don't you realize this is the place where religion comes to die?

Go hide in a church while we liberate the minds of your children and grandchildren from your dogmatic superstition.

This is the beginning of the Age of Truth. Your time is over, theist.
Let me tell you something Beliathon. I know you are a gay, which you are struggling to get your right Undecided No? Then why do you care? You are a bullshit LGBT activist then, which you are addicted by only human rights logic!
You know what, YOU DIDNT CREATE THIS INTERNET, then you dont have any right to forbid other people using it.

I've already shown him to be a hypocrite. He acts like he is totally tolerant, and wants everyone to be happy, and yet is totally intolerant of Christians, in particular, theists in general, to the point of calling people who disagree with him theists, before he even knows if they are or not. Just like he blamed Christianity for the boy shooting a transgender, with no indication of the boy's religion, the boy may have even been an atheist.

Yeah, I think he was a boy that prayed for God to fulfill his wishes, but God didnt do it, and now he act like know all about religion. He will always be an opposite for all religion thing, dont matter what side he is supporting. God bless him.
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