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August 02, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.

Violating the least rule results in "solitary confinement", which is not just being left alone in a room like in the United States. In Japan the little room, which is more like a closet, has some metal loops in the wall. They strap this leather and metal straight jacket thing on you and hook you up to the rings. The belt is wide and can be tightened against the disobeying prisoner's abdomen so that they can only take very shallow breaths. Apparently it is extremely uncomfortable. During meal time (once a day) you get a bowl of soup. Naturally the victim, err prisoner, is not released from the "protective restraints". They just unhook the prisoner from the wall, lay them down by the bowl of soup which is placed on the floor and they lap it up like a dog. Afterwards the prisoner is lifted and hooked up again. They stay in that condition for the term of the solitary confinement, anywhere from 2 to 10 days, depending on how much the prisoner pissed off the guards. There are no bathrooms, of course, so the prisoner just shits his soup diarrhea on himself.

The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.

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August 02, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
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well nobody deserves this kind of trestment, society should focus on mental hospitals for people with drug

addictions or unfortunate upbringings, and the guards would be experts at assesing prisoners and would be

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August 02, 2015, 04:56:33 PM
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That was depressing to read.
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August 02, 2015, 05:35:34 PM
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Well, Karpeles is not going to like his experience in the Japanese prisons if he is found guilty.

He should have thought about the consequences of breaking Japanese law...

Funny thing is, that Karpeles could have made a lot of money just by running an honest operation.  
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August 02, 2015, 06:20:02 PM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.



The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.


are you living in japan?

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August 02, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
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Living free in Japan is weird enough. Lord knows what happens if you're a naughty boy there. Hopefully I'll never find out and he will.
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Living free in Japan is weird enough. Lord knows what happens if you're a naughty boy there. Hopefully I'll never find out and he will.


Bwa ha ha!

I have only visited Japan twice but feel the same way.  Japan is about the most idiosyncratic place on the planet.  I felt like I was on Starship Vulcan at times...
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Living free in Japan is weird enough. Lord knows what happens if you're a naughty boy there. Hopefully I'll never find out and he will.


Bwa ha ha!

I have only visited Japan twice but feel the same way.  Japan is about the most idiosyncratic place on the planet.  I felt like I was on Starship Vulcan at times...

Yup. When they talk about communicating with animals I often reflect on the fact you can barely relate to a Japanese person, let alone a dolphin.
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August 02, 2015, 06:58:09 PM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.

Violating the least rule results in "solitary confinement", which is not just being left alone in a room like in the United States. In Japan the little room, which is more like a closet, has some metal loops in the wall. They strap this leather and metal straight jacket thing on you and hook you up to the rings. The belt is wide and can be tightened against the disobeying prisoner's abdomen so that they can only take very shallow breaths. Apparently it is extremely uncomfortable. During meal time (once a day) you get a bowl of soup. Naturally the victim, err prisoner, is not released from the "protective restraints". They just unhook the prisoner from the wall, lay them down by the bowl of soup which is placed on the floor and they lap it up like a dog. Afterwards the prisoner is lifted and hooked up again. They stay in that condition for the term of the solitary confinement, anywhere from 2 to 10 days, depending on how much the prisoner pissed off the guards. There are no bathrooms, of course, so the prisoner just shits his soup diarrhea on himself.

The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.


That sounds pretty damn horrific. I guess if Karpeles is found guilty & given a jail term he can have no complaints as he probably ruined a lot of peoples lives by stealing/compromising so much money. If you can't do the time then don't do the crime.

As somebody else said above he could have made a lot of money simply by running MtGox normally & legally. If he is found guilty then he has nobody to blame but himself. The pain he caused so many people deserves retribution.

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August 02, 2015, 07:05:35 PM
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Til the very end of op i wasn't sure if it's for serious or some trolling, but in all honesty, if these are facts of prison life in Japan, M.K. is
pretty much f**ked. Even tho he is deinetly guilty for ruining people's lives and money, i don't think any human being accused of non lethal
crime shouldn't be treated like that. This is just terrifying.

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August 02, 2015, 07:32:36 PM
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At least he'll have a chance to lose some weight.


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August 02, 2015, 07:34:52 PM
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If he's found guilty (he will be, 99% conviction rate) then he'll just pay a restitution fine to payback whoever he scammed in Japan. If he doesn't have all the money he can pay half and then literally sign an IOU to pay later and flee the country. Japan legal system is all about financial restitution like most Asian countries, the majority of people in jail are broke or murderers so couldn't bribe their way out.



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August 02, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
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That was exactly the expression I made after reading that  Grin

Yeah, that seems pretty harsh even by my standards, even prisoners should be able to breathe properly and shit in a toilet, at least for the sake of the cleaner staff because they're the ones who are going to have to deal with it and not the guards or the prisoner.
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August 02, 2015, 10:41:51 PM
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I wish some people could bring links from respected sources to back up their claims about how awful the Japanese prisons are. It's certainly true that they're different, but well, everything's just so different in Japan. I believe nothing happens if you let the soap fell down in the shower in a Japanese prison.

I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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August 02, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Pretty simple IMHO, quit feeling sorry for him, he had plenty of opportunities to get help long before it got out of control. If he would have even attempted to bring in people who knew how to run a business properly and actually let them do their jobs, he wouldn't be facing this. He actively covered things up and when he brought people in to help, he wouldn't let them see copies of the books, etc. As one of the former employees stated, it was more like he was looking for a fall guy than actual help to get things in order.

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August 02, 2015, 11:57:23 PM
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I wish some people could bring links from respected sources to back up their claims about how awful the Japanese prisons are. It's certainly true that they're different, but well, everything's just so different in Japan. I believe nothing happens if you let the soap fell down in the shower in a Japanese prison.

That is true. There is no butt rape in Japanese prison. That would be an infraction of the rules and we know what happens to prisoners that break the rules, don't we?

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August 03, 2015, 12:20:38 AM
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I wish some people could bring links from respected sources to back up their claims about how awful the Japanese prisons are. It's certainly true that they're different, but well, everything's just so different in Japan. I believe nothing happens if you let the soap fell down in the shower in a Japanese prison.

The info isn't really hard to find.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Japanese+prison+conditions+

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August 03, 2015, 12:44:29 AM
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It is the severe punishment which could prevent criminal. For the country where law is loose, take China for example, more and more bad steal kids in daylight, if the life in prison is painful enough, how could they do so? However, all these should not be connected with belief or religion.
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