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November 23, 2015, 07:29:59 AM
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Yes, we have solutions already, like increased block size. But due to many trolls, spammers who are hindering the implementing of such new features, so we have to wait for the public and finally come to some extent of consensus. 
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November 23, 2015, 09:59:33 AM
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Transaction time is always adjusted to around 10 minutes for 1 confirmation. I don't think merchants have to wait for it to be irreversible as when customers pay they can check the speed of the transaction, i mean if customer pay the fee it is almost impossible for the reversible of the payment. Because transaction only get reversed if it is not confirmed in 24 hours.

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November 23, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
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Transaction time is always adjusted to around 10 minutes for 1 confirmation. I don't think merchants have to wait for it to be irreversible as when customers pay they can check the speed of the transaction, i mean if customer pay the fee it is almost impossible for the reversible of the payment. Because transaction only get reversed if it is not confirmed in 24 hours.

I think they would want to see 1 confirmation and that is quite a hassle, if you are in a hurry, or just buying a loaf of bread Cheesy
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November 23, 2015, 11:48:01 AM
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Could this be the reason , It's like 15-20mn to get at least 1 confirmation if I'am correct ?
Anyway the point is that we need some time to get transactions verified , could this actually prevent us from going to mainstream ?  I mean if you want to buy something from McDonald are you supposed to wait 15mn while that's the time of your launch break ?

When you are buying parking tickets are you also supposed to wait few minuts ?  Huh It wouldn't make any sense .

Honestly , I'am not even sure what controls the speed of the transactions .
More confirmations = More secure
I mean, if you have one McDonald restaurant are you supposed to not check the money that the costumer gives to you, cuz it can be a fake money.
When you are buying parking tickets, whether the machine doesn't have to scan the money? (What if you gave it a plain paper that has the size like money) Huh It wouldn't make any sense .

Honestly , the transactions speed depends on the miners. If there's so many transaction, the queues will be longer.
In the scenario that there is a 51% attack, no matter how much confirmation you have, it can be reversed as long as the miner has a control over the network in a extended period of time and it is after the checkpoint. You still have the risk of accepting a counterfeit note since many of them are made so well. It is hard to detect without specialised machines. If you have 0 confirmation, it is arguably quite secure for low amounts. Afterall, there is a lot of work for the attackers to try to double spend it if the correct precautions are taken:
1. Verify that there is sufficient fee for the transaction to confirm within a short period of time.
2. Geographically distributed nodes have seen it and there isn't any competing transactions.
3. All inputs are confirmed.

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November 23, 2015, 02:22:21 PM
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The long confirmation time of bitcoin could be a problem if some shops do not accept 0 confirmation transactions. This could be solved by using centralized payment processors or sidechains. The side chain will be available some time next year. This should make the transaction faster.
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