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November 24, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
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Alright 1 post and my estimated value is BTC0.00135000. 1000 posts and I'm worth over BTC1!?  Cheesy
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November 24, 2016, 06:33:07 AM
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Alright 1 post and my estimated value is BTC0.00135000. 1000 posts and I'm worth over BTC1!?  Cheesy
No, post count does not matter. It would be a different story if you got 1000 activity, but that takes years to achieve.

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November 24, 2016, 06:35:17 AM
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Alright 1 post and my estimated value is BTC0.00135000. 1000 posts and I'm worth over BTC1!?  Cheesy
No, post count does not matter. It would be a different story if you got 1000 activity, but that takes years to achieve.

Yeah I was king of joking! Understand the activity level system - will take years of consistent posting alright!
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November 24, 2016, 09:58:42 PM
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basically an account with poor or anything under excellent/fair is kinda crap and "buyers" gonna avoid it and there isn't much profit from it.
in the other hand an account with -excellent- needs many chars so it is harder to achieve for the accounts farmer and will expose the low quality posters easily tho.
pro/cons exists as always, i would say that i find pro>cons here personally Smiley

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November 24, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
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Are there cases that the quality of the post is not exposed?
I noticed the review of my post is on Tuesday every 2 weeks but when you have more post to qualify you for the next rank, fewer post are qualified to keep you up.Just in case am wrong
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November 24, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
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Are there cases that the quality of the post is not exposed?
Post quality is no longer shown.

I noticed the review of my post is on Tuesday every 2 weeks but when you have more post to qualify you for the next rank, fewer post are qualified to keep you up.Just in case am wrong
Activity periods happen every two weeks on Tuesdays (they slowly drift forwards though because it isn't precisely every two weeks). The rest of your post makes zero sense.

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November 25, 2016, 10:02:00 AM
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Are there cases that the quality of the post is not exposed?
I noticed the review of my post is on Tuesday every 2 weeks but when you have more post to qualify you for the next rank, fewer post are qualified to keep you up.Just in case am wrong

Why would you rely on that basis. Why not see for yourself if you are really talking with a sense. I think that is the real quality right? It doesn't need to be long as long as it is understood.

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November 25, 2016, 08:03:27 PM
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Hello.

      The post quality in the price estimator should not be the basis(even before it wasn't altered yet)It should be on the buyers side to be keen and should check the posts of the account being sold.


There are one liner posts or just 1 word that answer questions or polls which should not lessen the worth of one's account.

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November 26, 2016, 10:41:42 AM
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I liked pretty much that feature. What I propose you is to make it come back, but calling it in another way, like average posts lenght. Some campaigns are calling you to make posts with more than a given number of caracters and that might still help in that case.
Nonsense. Stop using this feature in order to give a false sense of post quality to encourage higher prices in account trading. The resulting post quality had nothing to do with the actual real world post quality. It was primarily based on the length, and shitposters were actually given very good ratings. Thankfully it is now deleted and it should as such.

Its already gone. I have to say I liked it. Mainly because it was a little joke for me. I dont remember what exactly I was classified as, "fair" or something.
Obviously it was a joke, and only used by spammers and account farmers as an *actual measurement* of post quality.
If someone got high result from that, it doesn't means that he is spammer. Personally I receive 98% good quality post and than what? I am spammer? No, I don't think so about myself.
Also it don't has any great meaning if there will be that function or not, also trading with accounts isn't good and we don't conduce them but also at the same time people always do prohibited things.

I am in the same case. I was labelled as "excellent" and I feel that was pretty fair. Of course post lenght doesn't tell all about the actual quality, but as said by InvoKing, the pros are for me over than cons.

basically an account with poor or anything under excellent/fair is kinda crap and "buyers" gonna avoid it and there isn't much profit from it.
in the other hand an account with -excellent- needs many chars so it is harder to achieve for the accounts farmer and will expose the low quality posters easily tho.
pro/cons exists as always, i would say that i find pro>cons here personally Smiley

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November 26, 2016, 10:48:36 AM
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If someone got high result from that, it doesn't means that he is spammer. Personally I receive 98% good quality post and than what? I am spammer? No, I don't think so about myself.
Correct. That will likely be the case. Due to the variance in posting from genuine people, their percentages are likely going to be lower (e.g. mine was under 80% last time that I've checked it). Whether or not you think that you're a spammer is irrelevant.

I am in the same case. I was labelled as "excellent" and I feel that was pretty fair.
Nonsense. I've looked into your posts right now, and they are terrible (random 1 liners). This proves that the feature was completely misleading, ergo useless.

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November 27, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
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Are there cases that the quality of the post is not exposed?
I noticed the review of my post is on Tuesday every 2 weeks but when you have more post to qualify you for the next rank, fewer post are qualified to keep you up.Just in case am wrong

Why would you rely on that basis. Why not see for yourself if you are really talking with a sense. I think that is the real quality right? It doesn't need to be long as long as it is understood.
I had to look at some profiles of similar rank and post. I may not have made full sense in those post to you but they are not irrelevant. Same as others I checked, It is not peculiar but it is according to system you don't understand Jare #olodonie
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November 28, 2016, 12:43:02 PM
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Name: Elwar
Posts: 8031
Activity: 1862 (Legendary)
Potential Activity: 1862 (Potential Legendary)
Post Quality: Fair (72.71%)
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.55860000


Woo hoo! Time to sell my account and retire a rich man!

Post quality Fair? I beg to differ. I'm never fair.  Tongue

Wait a few years and sell for 5BTC! Cheesy

5 btc? Shucks! Thats huge, but seriously bro the price of accounts for now is decreasing and im bit sure that the possible account well be worthless in this coming future since there people who doesn't like for account trades and they might gonna turn down your what so called farm accounts, and much better to not really on account estimator since managers are looking for post accuracy and not for the estimator itself.

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November 28, 2016, 04:21:16 PM
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Name: Elwar
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Activity: 1862 (Legendary)
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Post Quality: Fair (72.71%)
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.55860000


Woo hoo! Time to sell my account and retire a rich man!

Post quality Fair? I beg to differ. I'm never fair.  Tongue

Wait a few years and sell for 5BTC! Cheesy

5 btc? Shucks! Thats huge, but seriously bro the price of accounts for now is decreasing and im bit sure that the possible account well be worthless in this coming future since there people who doesn't like for account trades and they might gonna turn down your what so called farm accounts, and much better to not really on account estimator since managers are looking for post accuracy and not for the estimator itself.
Campaign managers does not really rely on price estimator regarding on the post quality of a certain potential participant on their campaign they will surely check it manually because using this estimator doesnt able to determine which is a good post or bad as long the characters are many the estimator will surely consider it and you would able to reach excellent quality Smiley This estimator is somehow useful for other preferences.

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November 30, 2016, 04:34:37 AM
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Name: Elwar
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Activity: 1862 (Legendary)
Potential Activity: 1862 (Potential Legendary)
Post Quality: Fair (72.71%)
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.55860000


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Post quality Fair? I beg to differ. I'm never fair.  Tongue

Wait a few years and sell for 5BTC! Cheesy

5 btc? Shucks! Thats huge, but seriously bro the price of accounts for now is decreasing and im bit sure that the possible account well be worthless in this coming future since there people who doesn't like for account trades and they might gonna turn down your what so called farm accounts, and much better to not really on account estimator since managers are looking for post accuracy and not for the estimator itself.
Campaign managers does not really rely on price estimator regarding on the post quality of a certain potential participant on their campaign they will surely check it manually because using this estimator doesnt able to determine which is a good post or bad as long the characters are many the estimator will surely consider it and you would able to reach excellent quality Smiley This estimator is somehow useful for other preferences.

Hello.

It is indeed help for other inquiries, for example my account, as a newbie, I've learned plenty on the potential, activity and its relativity to ranking up. For campaign managers, like mine, (yahoo) is very strict and checks on the account and for sure doesn't only rely on the price estimator for details. But it is still a big help, hope you will not delete or remove this tool.

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December 02, 2016, 02:03:33 AM
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I added an indicator for SMAS blacklisting. If the account being priced is on the SMAS blacklist, it will be marked as so for both Normal and Merchant modes.

I have also fixed the posted address scanner so that it gets all posted addresses. Apparently it was not doing this before.

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I added an indicator for SMAS blacklisting. If the account being priced is on the SMAS blacklist, it will be marked as so for both Normal and Merchant modes.

I have also fixed the posted address scanner so that it gets all posted addresses. Apparently it was not doing this before.

Perfect! That's great news. I also just noticed you got rid of the post quality which I think is a great move. It really only showed that someone posted what, more than 75 characters? Quantity of characters in a post ≠ quality posts so good for you for getting rid of it.
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December 02, 2016, 06:40:32 PM
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I added an indicator for SMAS blacklisting. If the account being priced is on the SMAS blacklist, it will be marked as so for both Normal and Merchant modes.

I have also fixed the posted address scanner so that it gets all posted addresses. Apparently it was not doing this before.

Perfect! That's great news. I also just noticed you got rid of the post quality which I think is a great move. It really only showed that someone posted what, more than 75 characters? Quantity of characters in a post ≠ quality posts so good for you for getting rid of it.

It wasn't fully removed , he only removed it from the display because people was taking it so seriously (mostly while buying and selling accounts) or enrolling into signature campaigns .

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is it: SMAS Blacklisted ?! Never heard about it...
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December 02, 2016, 07:30:56 PM
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is it: SMAS Blacklisted ?! Never heard about it...
Their thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545652.0 Basically its a couple of sig campaign managers who have been working together to build a blacklist of users that they will not allow participate in the campaigns that they manage.

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December 04, 2016, 09:48:35 PM
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Have you considered adding automatic redirect to the token link when the "estimating" is done?

I've been using it to find some alts recently, and often accidentally close it or close it thinking I won't need it any more, and than when I realize I do, I need to re-estimate as the link with the token that shows the previous estimate isn't in my history. Really small thing, that probably won't affect most so I understand if it isn't added.

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