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February 22, 2016, 07:32:56 AM
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Great! The FTC is also allowing Sonny Vleisides to father future scammers. The count's now up to three.

Does the last name of Angela Gambino Chambers do anything for you fellow sleuths? No, not the middle name, albeit that, too, elicits emotions, but not as lofty.

I am not surprised this criminal was busy procreating. With all the BTC he funneled...

Yeah, but he won't be able to procreate for long given his health issues. Soon, Sonny Vleisides will be in a wheelchair just like he real dad was the last time he entered a courtroom and while he served out the rest of his life in prison.
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February 22, 2016, 02:25:48 PM
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So....

  • the FTC came in and stopped the company trading
  • The FTC then appointed a receiver who charged 7 figure sums a month, while not allowing shipments to customers
  • The FTC failed to prove what they wanted to.
  • The FTC bankrupts BFL.
  • The FTC 'wins' by getting them to pay $4000......
  • BFL loses its company in the process
  • Any and all customers are left with $0 or hardware

*slow clap*


most accurate summary i hve seen so far.

Yes.  People thought the FTC would step in and save the day.  Instead they showed why the people should have known the government is a useless leech and stole what remaining money the customers might have gotten back.

FTFY


Nice to see ya back snagglebone. Where have ya been? At the courthouse, perhaps? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022931.msg12916504#msg12916504
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February 22, 2016, 03:46:57 PM
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So....

  • the FTC came in and stopped the company trading
  • The FTC then appointed a receiver who charged 7 figure sums a month, while not allowing shipments to customers
  • The FTC failed to prove what they wanted to.
  • The FTC bankrupts BFL.
  • The FTC 'wins' by getting them to pay $4000......
  • BFL loses its company in the process
  • Any and all customers are left with $0 or hardware

*slow clap*


most accurate summary i hve seen so far.

Yes.  People thought the FTC would step in and save the day.  Instead they showed why the people should have known the government is a useless leech and stole what remaining money the customers might have gotten back.

FTFY


Nice to see ya back snagglebone. Where have ya been? At the courthouse, perhaps? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022931.msg12916504#msg12916504


The Linux daemon works fine. I have it running on several servers without any problems at all. I haven't tried any GUI interface for it, though, so maybe it has problems?


Maybe he's been busy manning his now non-ringing phone, then on the day that iFLY called, he totally forgot about this place as he donned his rainbow-color flysuit and headed down to iFLY to give his long-awaited interview.
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February 23, 2016, 02:57:47 AM
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anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)

I thought it was over now. Is there a new case in a different court?

er huh? so far out of the loop ...if all is done and settled what was the outcome?

(i assume no one went to jail or lost their $$$ just bfl corp got hit....or I'd have heard about such)

I suppose I should use 'google' or something instead ..but jeez you'd think there would be something new about anything of note on this thread?


well I did trip over this

http://www.butterflylabs.com/current_refund_efforts/

basically 1/18/16 the FTC was a 'meanie' to BTC and they lost all their money on legal fees etc ...so don't blame them (the victim bfl) blame FTC! (sheesh) or what I take away from it.



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Once again, we are working on solutions that will allow us to resume providing refunds as soon as possible.

Thanks for your patience.

You are so welcome, Sonny Vleisides. BTW, how's the queue position working out for the last time an entity of yours folded up shop with its investors waiting for your promised refunds? For those playing at home, the answer is still zero (as in 0 for those into real numbers and not worded numbers). BitcoinTalks' very own Johann Gevers - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67553 - conducted the audit shown here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030603182935/http://www.lfcfa.com/founders/index.html

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Privacy and security brought to you by the funniest clowns since the Keystone Kops!

https://www.liquidprivacy.net/ another LFC "insider" spinoff site
also runs
https://194.109.142.142:1984/
called Distributed City. They are looking for "High net worth Sovereigns", I wonder why?

http://www.lfcfa.com/ the joke site set up by Adam Selene to stall founders,
maybe not such a joke because they got all quiverchinned and weak kneed with gratitude over it.

http://www.lfcfa.com/founders/index.html the excuse page, used to have a really nice section
telling people NOT to trust the security of Mailvault. Must have dawned on em that it would be hard to sell
when even the putative owners admitted it was a leaky piece of garbage. Took 5 servers to run? And it still failed, often.
Got something you want the whole world to know? Use Mailvault!


http://www.lfcfa.com/financials/notes.html The very hilarious admission of embezzlement and other
damaging statements.
For security _experts_ these guys are so far beyond bad that the light from bad is gonna take a year to get there.
They hired a IRS revenue agent to help them with security! Perhaps the fed can give them references?
It's not like they can use LFC as an example of good work ethic and skills.

Then there is Wolf DeVoon, a wannabe lawyer and his site, where he places himself alongside
some literary giants is a fascinating study in ego pathology. There has to be name for this disease but I can't stop laughing long enough to look it up. This site just begs for a student
shrink to write a thesis.
http://www.organic-law.com/wolf.html

The soulful pictures of a luser who has left a trail of unpaid debts and broken promises are just too much!

Oh wait! I have some similarly soulful photos of Houston, before the cocaine stole his boyish looks.
There he sits, staring off into a future just filled with other peoples money. Brings a tear to your eye.
Anyone want to see them?
When compared to the after pics...excuse ME.. er.. wedding pictures taken last year. Well, the
antidrug program missed a sure thing when they passed these up. Talk about scared straight!

Screen shots of all these sites have been saved in case they "somehow" vanish. The Laissez Faire City programmers
just can't seem to keep anything up and running. It's a mystery.

Keep in mind that none of the real estate showed up on the audit and a ton of cash is missing too.
I wonder if the insiders have it buried in a backyard? Tempts me to grab a shovel and head
down to Nosara in Costa Rica, see what I could dig up!
Some of the insiders sure travel a lot, sometimes under false names. Homeland security seems not to be on top
of that. Or the money systems used for anonymous funds transfers, run from the middle east no less.
I bet some journalist could make a big stink over THAT!
I bet some journalist does!
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March 02, 2016, 06:26:15 AM
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I wonder how many ill gotten Bitcoins Zerlan used to buy his Tesla.
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March 02, 2016, 08:15:25 AM
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I wonder how many ill gotten Bitcoins Zerlan used to buy his Tesla.

Oh my God, he has a Tesla? I'm so jealous. I wanted a Model X but couldn't quite come up with the $137,000 they wanted for it.

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I wonder how many ill gotten Bitcoins Zerlan used to buy his Tesla.

Oh my God, he has a Tesla? I'm so jealous. I wanted a Model X but couldn't quite come up with the $137,000 they wanted for it.

I ordered a Model T-X, but have to wait for all the <black> confirmations to come in before I can take delivery. Meanwhile, at iFLY, everyday is now Rainbow Poodle Day.



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March 02, 2016, 08:20:05 PM
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Meanwhile the taxpayer footed the bill for the FTC, its contractors, its multiple lawyers, the court, the judge, the prematurely lost jobs, the loss of tax revenue. All BFL customers lost, including those that were receiving cloud mining, already made hardware, soon to be made hardware and those in the refund queue. Even those customers who filed a class action via Wood Law got screwed by the FTC.

Chapter 11 not apply to proceedings ?   The Tax man always comes first of a queue every other case Ive seen.  Ive no idea why a private business is the concern and cost of government to clear up, they sold internationally as well so seems any USA customer got screwed twice over there

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March 02, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
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Meanwhile the taxpayer footed the bill for the FTC, its contractors, its multiple lawyers, the court, the judge, the prematurely lost jobs, the loss of tax revenue. All BFL customers lost, including those that were receiving cloud mining, already made hardware, soon to be made hardware and those in the refund queue. Even those customers who filed a class action via Wood Law got screwed by the FTC.

Chapter 11 not apply to proceedings ?   The Tax man always comes first of a queue every other case Ive seen.  Ive no idea why a private business is the concern and cost of government to clear up, they sold internationally as well so seems any USA customer got screwed twice over there

Rest assured that the IRS is investigating how BFL was able to write off a gambling debt unrelated to them but stemmed from Josh Zerlan of which I have the proof here in monumental asshole hands in the form of a 1099-Misc form. If BFL was willing to lower their tax liability due to a confirmed bogus ~$7K outlay, the IRS is wise enough to realize that other much larger bogus deductions were probably falsely submitted.
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March 02, 2016, 11:53:33 PM
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the IRS is wise enough to realize that other much larger bogus deductions were probably falsely submitted.

Too bad the IRS doesn't give a hoot any more.

It's unbelievable how Butterfly Labs management got away with this scam.
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March 03, 2016, 01:05:40 AM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.
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March 03, 2016, 01:18:48 AM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.

That's not even the funny part. The real laugh riot is when a bunch of antigovernment, anarchist, libertarian, save the world Bitcoiners have to seek the assistance of the very government they're fighting against to correct their mistakes.

My absolute faves are the anarchists I used to talk to on this forum that believe in limited government and self reliance but were the first to cry to the government when pirate@40 fucked them over. ROFL

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March 03, 2016, 01:19:16 AM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.

But... but... but... Sonny Vleisides was on a new track... And... and... and... Josh Zerlan could see BFL's office address outside his office window from the bank he was employed at, so he walked downstairs, crossed the street and snapped some pics, then posted the pics informing bitcoiners that BFL's for-real so no need to come to KC to check them out because he did the due diligence... And that's how a person who earns $50K/yr can pay cash for a U$500K+ BTC-House.
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March 03, 2016, 01:21:50 AM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.

That's not even the funny part. The real laugh riot is when a bunch of antigovernment, anarchist, libertarian, save the world Bitcoiners have to seek the assistance of the very government they're fighting against to correct their mistakes.

My absolute faves are the anarchists I used to talk to on this forum that believe in limited government and self reliance but were the first to cry to the government when pirate@40 fucked them over. ROFL

Great! Piss off the Libertitards.  Wink
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March 03, 2016, 01:30:25 AM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.

That's not even the funny part. The real laugh riot is when a bunch of antigovernment, anarchist, libertarian, save the world Bitcoiners have to seek the assistance of the very government they're fighting against to correct their mistakes.

My absolute faves are the anarchists I used to talk to on this forum that believe in limited government and self reliance but were the first to cry to the government when pirate@40 fucked them over. ROFL

Great! Piss off the Libertitards.  Wink

Every kid is a shit talking rebel until their mother slaps them in the face at their birthday party. LOL

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March 05, 2016, 06:32:21 PM
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The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.

That's not even the funny part. The real laugh riot is when a bunch of antigovernment, anarchist, libertarian, save the world Bitcoiners have to seek the assistance of the very government they're fighting against to correct their mistakes.

My absolute faves are the anarchists I used to talk to on this forum that believe in limited government and self reliance but were the first to cry to the government when pirate@40 fucked them over. ROFL

Great! Piss off the Libertitards.  Wink

Every kid is a shit talking rebel until their mother slaps them in the face at their birthday party. LOL

56 years ago yesterday I was born breeched. Ever since then ... Wait, so that's what happened to me!  Cry Cry Cry
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March 11, 2016, 03:22:02 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg9636652#msg9636652

Visit the above and see that a link has been changed. It used to be http://www.siclook.com/state-il/jeff-ownby_moIv.html

but is now http://www.siclook.com/state-il/jeff-ownby_hBlt.html

I didn't change it, nor would I have accidentally or purposely changed it. The first link doesn't work/exist. The following was what I was alluding to at the time:

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March 27, 2016, 11:04:33 PM
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This motherfuckin' piece of shit no longer mentions his affiliation with Butterfly Labs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-bourne-637aa43
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March 28, 2016, 09:58:45 AM
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This motherfuckin' piece of shit no longer mentions his affiliation with Butterfly Labs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-bourne-637aa43
Well, it's certainly interesting that Bruce Bourne is hesitant to mention his affiliation with Butterfly Labs (BFL), given that the checkered history of Butterfly Labs (BFL) could be construed as a stain on the reputation of an esteemed Harvard grad like Bruce Bourne. If people were to Google Bruce Bourne and the results showed that someone like Bruce Bourne was heavily involved in the unethical and unlawful business practices of a company like Butterfly Labs (BFL), they might question the suitability of someone like Bruce Bourne to hold positions of responsibility in other companies.

So I can see why Bruce Bourne would omit any reference to Butterfly Labs (BFL) in his LinkedIn profile. The only question is why Bruce Bourne, formerly of Butterfly Labs (BFL), thinks anyone uses LinkedIn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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May 01, 2016, 11:46:20 PM
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The best scam would be if butterfly had units built months ago but setup them up to use meanwhile so being paid to mine twice

Well that would be interesting. To say the least.

from 2013, was I right ?   I read some companies were operating stock along those lines but just realised I had posted it myself already 3 years ago

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