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May 09, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
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has anyone "actually" received a unit and started using it? or am i missing something?






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May 09, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
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Think so.
i can't seem to find any reviews from actual people using it






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May 09, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
-Hanlon's razor

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May 09, 2013, 02:51:02 PM
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Well, they are shipping now....
But scam or not, they're a shitty enterprise that dangled their customers for a year, used pre-orders to finance development, and cheated people out of a crazy profitable run.
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May 09, 2013, 02:55:17 PM
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Yeah it sucks that it's taken them so long to finally deliver and anyone getting an order right now will just have a super expensive fancy box with a light in it by the time they get it.

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May 09, 2013, 02:55:31 PM
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I also think so...
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May 09, 2013, 02:56:37 PM
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has anyone "actually" received a unit and started using it? or am i missing something?


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May 09, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
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Avalon has been slow at shipping its machines as well. So its not on BFL
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May 09, 2013, 03:17:36 PM
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I ordered a 60 Gh/h asic. I'm just afraid that its going to be a paper weight once I get it in about a year.

In about a year? How you people are so optimistic? Did you order in July 2012? Then yeah, it may be one year from now if you ordered a Jalapeño.

If you ordered a mini rig, you won't be receiving it - because it does not exists.

If you ordered a single or mini single, who knows when you will receive it.

And if your order was placed in 2013... Man... I don't know what to say. Good luck with that. I would ask for a refund for sure.

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May 09, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
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I belive many of those who scream about BFL beeing a scam, is people already having an order at BFL. To get more people to chicken out.
We just have to wait and see, but i think we will see some ASICs up and running soon.

And if you can`t afford to loose your investment, you should never have invested. Easy as that.  Wink
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May 09, 2013, 04:49:13 PM
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I have a device ordered and I believe they are ridiculously incompetent more than anything else. My worry is less about them being a scam or not but the fact that if they do not deliver, in 2-3 month, avalon chips will be deployed and my ROI on my BFL preorder will pretty much double or triple their original estimation. Part of me feels I should take refund and buy ASICminer shares instead.
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May 09, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
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I have a device ordered and I believe they are ridiculously incompetent more than anything else. My worry is less about them being a scam or not but the fact that if they do not deliver, in 2-3 month, avalon chips will be deployed and my ROI on my BFL preorder will pretty much double or triple their original estimation. Part of me feels I should take refund and buy ASICminer shares instead.

It depends on when you ordered. If you ordered 1 Jalapeño in July 2012, you might get it in 3 months. But that's VERY optimistic. Super optimistic. A gamble in itself.

If you ordered a Jalapeño in 2013, you won't get your order this year. If you ordered a Mini Rig, regardless of the order date, you will never get it. If you ordered a single or little single, regardless of the order date, you won't get your order this year.

That's the reality. And yes, I'm an early BFL customer. And i'm not asking for a refund just because I paid in Bitcoins, so an USD refund would just be a slap in my f**** face. I took a gamble, and I lost big time. But anyhow I will keep telling the truth to anyone asking.

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May 09, 2013, 04:55:20 PM
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nice man!
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May 09, 2013, 04:56:34 PM
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To be fair to them I don't think its intentionally a scam, they are just inexperienced and vastly underestimated how long it would take to get a product out the door. Having said that, their customer service during the problems could be much improved
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May 09, 2013, 04:57:46 PM
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I have a device ordered and I believe they are ridiculously incompetent more than anything else. My worry is less about them being a scam or not but the fact that if they do not deliver, in 2-3 month, avalon chips will be deployed and my ROI on my BFL preorder will pretty much double or triple their original estimation. Part of me feels I should take refund and buy ASICminer shares instead.

It depends on when you ordered. If you ordered 1 Jalapeño in July 2012, you might get it in 3 months. But that's VERY optimistic. Super optimistic. A gamble in itself.

If you ordered a Jalapeño in 2013, you won't get your order this year. If you ordered a Mini Rig, regardless of the order date, you will never get it. If you ordered a single or little single, regardless of the order date, you won't get your order this year.

That's the reality. And yes, I'm an early BFL customer. And i'm not asking for a refund just because I paid in Bitcoins, so an USD refund would just be a slap in my f**** face. I took a gamble, and I lost big time. But anyhow I will keep telling the truth to anyone asking.

Yeah, I agree with you, I ordered a device with a larger hashrate. At least I ordered with US dollar.
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May 09, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
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I ordered a 30 GH/s little single in March this year.  I don't get the feeling it's a scam, I just hope I get it before difficulty is >100 million.
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May 10, 2013, 01:59:50 AM
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I openly speculated about the integrity of the process...  (I ordered $2666 in July-August 2012).  They forced a refund upon me and booted me out of my 3xxx and 4,xxx orders of 60 gh/s respectfully just a few days ago. 

Josh said I could vote with my money, but it looks like he did the voting for me. I'm sad and I feel cheated.  They won't talk to me.  =(
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May 10, 2013, 02:23:41 PM
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I openly speculated about the integrity of the process...  (I ordered $2666 in July-August 2012).  They forced a refund upon me and booted me out of my 3xxx and 4,xxx orders of 60 gh/s respectfully just a few days ago. 

Josh said I could vote with my money, but it looks like he did the voting for me. I'm sad and I feel cheated.  They won't talk to me.  =(

Did you validate your order and accept the new terms as instructed? You probably failed to do so and got cancelled for non-compliance.

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May 10, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
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so in essence the butterfly labs machines will be obselete by the end of this year when they actually ship?    Or is there going to be a time where no one will be building machines till the end of the year and everyone will be in the same boat?
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May 10, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
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Even if difficulty is 4 or 5 times what it is now you will probably still make money from your ASIC it just will be not very much money. Definitely not the amount you plugged into the calculator.
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