Spjer
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May 16, 2013, 04:21:09 PM |
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Bfl is a big SCAM!!
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animalxp
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May 16, 2013, 04:24:33 PM |
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Funny to see all the hate towards BFL... all the scam claims...
Regardless of all the hype, bad PR, delays and accusations, there are Bitforce SCs in the wild now, multiple forum posts with pics, vids, stats, screenshots and mining pool stat pages showing consistently provable use of these miners.
If you bought in and then got a refund... stop crying you got out.
If you were never a customer, why do you care, also stop crying scam because YOU WEREN'T SCAMMED!
Everyone else who stayed the course, even through the delays, has every reason to be upset over this, but, they had the choice to purchase and to get refunded... so if you are still crying, just stop... it is pointless.
Don't you think if they were scamming us, there would already be an investigation? They had to send fiat overseas to pay the foundry to make the wafer pies... you don't move that much fiat without some regulatory group seeing it. Plus, they are a registered company here in the US... if there was significant proof of a scam, at this late in the game, and as public as the entire process to date has been, the government would already have them in their cross hairs.
Maybe i am off base here, or just blinded by my own pre-order... but you cry babies act like cutting edge technology is easy to make... and it isn't. Point blank, no other company at this level of technology has EVER been this public about their R&D... to me that speaks volumes for Josh and BFL, even if it feels like there is a lack of timely updates... microprocessors and new technology dont make progress every hour of every day... things take time to piece together and polish.
I for one have given BFL and Josh the benefit of the doubt... yes they blew their time frame and yes it has made our profits diminish... but they are not gone and only the greedy are butt hurt they cant pay their "investment" off like Jeff did in 9 days... mine will still pay off in 6 weeks even if I dont get it until July... I have no power costs so pure profit.
pre-order cannot just ****ing magically turn into R&D from some guys company. you give companies the benefit of trust after they have taken your money by lies and (INVESTMENT)  this is a pre-order NO R&D was stated, NO INVESTMENT of my funds into his company was anytime made clear. i wouldnt mind if it was an actual PERSON instead of a company scam artist, making everything clear from the start. and if im a baby you`re herp derp massive blah blah blah. i was a customer!!! twat. |
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animalxp
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May 16, 2013, 04:37:26 PM |
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dude go back to your BFL desk... i think i hear your boyfriend josh calling. |
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massnerder
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No power in the 'verse can stop me.
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May 16, 2013, 04:42:19 PM |
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I take it you got your refund? What else do you have to cry about then?
The way I understand it many folks who paid in BTC lost a whole lot when they got their refund due to the price change.... Just sayin  |
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daemonfox
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May 16, 2013, 04:45:27 PM |
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dude go back to your BFL desk... i think i hear your boyfriend josh calling.
Are you kidding... I WISH I was a BFL employee... they could use some better CRM for sure... I know it hurts but it isn't me you are mad at... wooooooooooo..... sahhhhhhhhhhhh... try breathing a bit... maybe the stick will fall out and you will feel better? |
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animalxp
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May 16, 2013, 04:51:36 PM |
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dude go back to your BFL desk... i think i hear your boyfriend josh calling.
Are you kidding... I WISH I was a BFL employee... they could use some better CRM for sure... I know it hurts but it isn't me you are mad at... wooooooooooo..... sahhhhhhhhhhhh... try breathing a bit... maybe the stick will fall out and you will feel better?  welcome to the ignore list.  |
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daemonfox
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May 16, 2013, 04:58:37 PM |
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Damn i'm good... 4 posts and already on ignore... go me! Glad I could help him got to his 10 posts though... GG! |
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reich
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May 16, 2013, 05:00:08 PM |
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Someone should go blow up their headquarters.. With all them in it..
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Inaba
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May 16, 2013, 05:11:14 PM |
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Oh Noes! You are on animalxp's ignore list! How will you ever survive?
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If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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daemonfox
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May 16, 2013, 05:28:23 PM |
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Oh Noes! You are on animalxp's ignore list! How will you ever survive?
inorite?!? /wrists g'bye cruel world! |
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MooC Tals
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May 16, 2013, 05:43:58 PM |
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1) There are codes of conduct a company needs to follow with pre-orders 2) Pre-orders are stating a product has been developed. 3) There was no product in the first place What were they advertising in Oct? What product was near to completion that pre-orders were needed to be placed? Look at the dates Please before you tell someone their opinions are incorrect broaden yours to allow better understanding. The scam is not over the existence of the product NOW it was its existence then. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2139947#msg2139947 |
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Benchman
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May 16, 2013, 05:46:02 PM |
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Bfl is a big SCAM!!
I agree. Sent PM to Josh but still no replay after 4 months... |
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darkmule
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May 16, 2013, 06:00:21 PM |
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Another 6 post wonder account. Fuck off, Josh. |
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daemonfox
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May 16, 2013, 06:21:55 PM |
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Never said anyone's opinion was incorrect... in fact, that's a completely false and irrational statement. Opinions aren't right or wrong... they are valid or invalid that is all. To you, your opinion is correct even if it is invalid. You feel the opposite towards promoters of BFL... to you their opinion is wrong even if their reasoning is valid. The only thing that changes that is when BFL ships all units or proves they are a scam by finally pulling out... at which point it is no longer opinion, but fact. Then you can say right or wrong. Another 6 post wonder account. Fuck off, Josh.
No sir, not this user... I may be fresh to posting here, but this is not my first go round reading these forums... just been a lurker for so long up until I felt I wanted to be able to exchange and participate with some of the altcoin devs and community members who post here. |
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MooC Tals
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May 16, 2013, 06:32:04 PM |
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Never said anyone's opinion was incorrect... in fact, that's a completely false and irrational statement. Opinions aren't right or wrong... they are valid or invalid that is all. To you, your opinion is correct even if it is invalid. You feel the opposite towards promoters of BFL... to you their opinion is wrong even if their reasoning is valid. The only thing that changes that is when BFL ships all units or proves they are a scam by finally pulling out... at which point it is no longer opinion, but fact. Then you can say right or wrong. Another 6 post wonder account. Fuck off, Josh.
No sir, not this user... I may be fresh to posting here, but this is not my first go round reading these forums... just been a lurker for so long up until I felt I wanted to be able to exchange and participate with some of the altcoin devs and community members who post here. So my opinion is invalid. The point that BFL tells advertisers that products are almost ready in Oct of 2012 is not true? or the point where BFL has been taking in pre-orders for products that did not exist? or maybe it was something else that you found that I erred in? Second I did not say your opinion was wrong I said it was very narrow minded. As I tried to broaden yours by feeding relevant factual evidence. You did see that link right? |
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Exoskeleton
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May 16, 2013, 06:41:37 PM |
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Everybody on this thread needs to realize that BFL shills with new accounts are never going to stop defending them. They will never stop flooding this forum with BS. The scam is winding down, and they just want to get a few more pre orders before the shitstorm.
Fighting with BFL shills is the same thing as fighting a Karl Rove campaiagn. We are wrestling pigs. We all get dirty but the pigs like it. BFL has no shame. The shills will continue to deflect and insult. This is exactly how scammers behave.
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daemonfox
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May 16, 2013, 06:56:20 PM |
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1) There are codes of conduct a company needs to follow with pre-orders 2) Pre-orders are stating a product has been developed. 3) There was no product in the first place What were they advertising in Oct? What product was near to completion that pre-orders were needed to be placed? Look at the dates Please before you tell someone their opinions are incorrect broaden yours to allow better understanding. The scam is not over the existence of the product NOW it was its existence then. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2139947#msg2139947Show me in your first response above where you stated "it was very narrow minded"... because you did not. You plainly stated that I blatantly said someone's opinion was incorrect... you should read and reread more thoroughly before flaming me for something that did not happen. So my opinion is invalid. The point that BFL tells advertisers that products are almost ready in Oct of 2012 is not true? or the point where BFL has been taking in pre-orders for products that did not exist? or maybe it was something else that you found that I erred in?
Second I did not say your opinion was wrong I said it was very narrow minded. As I tried to broaden yours by feeding relevant factual evidence. You did see that link right?
I also never stated that any of the FACTS you are basing your OPINION on were not true... in fact I applaud you because in reality, all those facts are true... and I do sympathize with some... just not the ones repeatedly crying SCAM! What I did try to relate is this: The facts about delays, bad announcements about product availability and shipping, bad PR and CRM, the prices doubling and even more shipping delays are all true 100%. That still doesn't equal BFL being a scam... I am sorry but those are all mistakes and miss-steps taken in the creation of cutting edge technology. It happens... if people are uncomfortable with that, they get refunded. THAT is my opinion, whether you believe it to be valid or not... what is not valid is all those facts ending up with BFL as a scam... sorry just doesn't pass the logic test. |
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Kouye
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May 16, 2013, 06:59:43 PM |
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Don't worry. Order now and get your goods... In the past!At least be decent and update that sticky post ? |
[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked. |
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BitNeuroCondensate
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May 16, 2013, 07:01:58 PM |
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You guys have seen the videos of working Jalepeno miners, right?
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