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August 08, 2015, 06:03:30 AM
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Can anyone tell me where i can find a list with all members on the DF trust list?

Also this member shows up on trusted feedback when i looked at something else.
He has recent scam accusations against him so shouldn't he be removed, or am i missing something.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=187899

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August 08, 2015, 06:06:48 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

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August 08, 2015, 06:18:32 AM
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Also this member shows up on trusted feedback when i looked at something else.
He has recent scam accusations against him so shouldn't he be removed, or am i missing something.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=187899

That's not possible! It may have been a bug or something! I just checked your trust list and he is not in your trust list.

Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

This shows all the users in your trust list and the users trusted by them(if depth is greater than 0). Use https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full.

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August 08, 2015, 06:26:23 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

I just double checked the list and under depth 2 section he shows up
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August 08, 2015, 06:34:36 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

I just double checked the list and under depth 2 section he shows up
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I guess you added him before on your trust list (same link I gave you , on the big TextBox where it's written  DefaultTrust) ?
this is how I see him personally (and most likely everyone else) :


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August 08, 2015, 06:36:34 AM
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-snip-
Also this member shows up on trusted feedback when i looked at something else.
He has recent scam accusations against him so shouldn't he be removed, or am i missing something.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=187899

That's not possible! It may have been a bug or something! I just checked your trust list and he is not in your trust list.

Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

This shows all the users in your trust list and the users trusted by them(if depth is greater than 0). Use https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full.
Thanks MZ, i haven't been through the whole list yet but i will check it out when i got time.
I did see you on that list, does that mean your on DF trust now?

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August 08, 2015, 06:39:16 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

I just double checked the list and under depth 2 section he shows up
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Ah! I see now! trynmpo is trusted by shdvb who is in Cryptology's and goose20's trust lists. You can exclude him by adding ~trynmpo to your trust list.

Btw, your trust list is not default trust list. You have added people to your trust list. IMHO, you should change depth to 1. Now you trust list is so broad that many of the trust ratings won't be accurate.

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Thanks MZ, i haven't been through the whole list yet but i will check it out when i got time.
I did see you on that list, does that mean your on DF trust now?

No, I am not in default trust list. See above.

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August 08, 2015, 06:44:41 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

I just double checked the list and under depth 2 section he shows up
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I must be missing something because i see it.

Ah! I see now! trynmpo is trusted by shdvb who is in Cryptology's and goose20's trust lists. You can exclude him by adding ~trynmpo to your trust list.

Btw, your trust list is not default trust list. You have added people to your trust list. IMHO, you should change depth to 1. Now you trust list is so broad that many of the trust ratings may not be accurate.
Cheers thanks for clearing that up for me.
I have done deals with Cryptology's so i added him to my trust list. I also add anyone else i have a good business deal with.
I will also change the depth to 1 now .

I see trynmpo as -63 at the moment.
What do other members see me trust as?

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August 08, 2015, 06:53:12 AM
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Here are they : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and they guy you listed is not listed there as I can see .

I just double checked the list and under depth 2 section he shows up
trynmpo (1)
I must be missing something because i see it.

Ah! I see now! trynmpo is trusted by shdvb who is in Cryptology's and goose20's trust lists. You can exclude him by adding ~trynmpo to your trust list.

Btw, your trust list is not default trust list. You have added people to your trust list. IMHO, you should change depth to 1. Now you trust list is so broad that many of the trust ratings may not be accurate.
Cheers thanks for clearing that up for me.
I have done deals with Cryptology's so i added him to my trust list. I also add anyone else i have a good business deal with.
I will also change the depth to 1 now .

I see trynmpo as -63 at the moment.
What do other members see me trust as?

I see it like this : 6: -0 / +1  (Light green)

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August 08, 2015, 07:13:09 AM
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^^ Thanks, that is how i also see it.
I used to see it as darkgreen 20 till i had to remove glennmathews from my trust list. I had done many deals with him or me going first lots of times but then i heard he scammed some member and also someone on BTCjam i think so i couldn't keep him on.

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August 08, 2015, 07:31:39 AM
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^^ Thanks, that is how i also see it.
I used to see it as darkgreen 20 till i had to remove glennmathews from my trust list. I had done many deals with him or me going first lots of times but then i heard he scammed some member and also someone on BTCjam i think so i couldn't keep him on.

You should only add people who judges accurately, not according to their trustworthiness(though this is one of the criteria).

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August 08, 2015, 07:49:05 AM
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^^ Thanks, that is how i also see it.
I used to see it as darkgreen 20 till i had to remove glennmathews from my trust list. I had done many deals with him or me going first lots of times but then i heard he scammed some member and also someone on BTCjam i think so i couldn't keep him on.

You should only add people who judges accurately, not according to their trustworthiness(though this is one of the criteria).
What exactly do you mean by "only add people who judges accurately"
I just add anyone i have done a successful business deal with where one of us risked a certain amount of btc, should i change they way i adjust mt DF trust list?

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August 08, 2015, 09:23:43 AM
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^^ Thanks, that is how i also see it.
I used to see it as darkgreen 20 till i had to remove glennmathews from my trust list. I had done many deals with him or me going first lots of times but then i heard he scammed some member and also someone on BTCjam i think so i couldn't keep him on.

You should only add people who judges accurately, not according to their trustworthiness(though this is one of the criteria).
What exactly do you mean by "only add people who judges accurately"
I just add anyone i have done a successful business deal with where one of us risked a certain amount of btc, should i change they way i adjust mt DF trust list?

I mean people who leave feedback accurately. Not people who leave feedback for each and every things. I don't know how to explain it better. Maybe someone else will explain it in a better way to you!

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August 08, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
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^^ Thanks, that is how i also see it.
I used to see it as darkgreen 20 till i had to remove glennmathews from my trust list. I had done many deals with him or me going first lots of times but then i heard he scammed some member and also someone on BTCjam i think so i couldn't keep him on.

You should only add people who judges accurately, not according to their trustworthiness(though this is one of the criteria).
What exactly do you mean by "only add people who judges accurately"
I just add anyone i have done a successful business deal with where one of us risked a certain amount of btc, should i change they way i adjust mt DF trust list?

I mean people who leave feedback accurately. Not people who leave feedback for each and every things. I don't know how to explain it better. Maybe someone else will explain it in a better way to you!
I understand that. I have only added members to my default trust list if i have personally done a deal with them where one of has taken a risk.

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August 11, 2015, 11:53:34 AM
Last edit: August 11, 2015, 11:54:23 PM by TECSHARE
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You seem to be confusing THE default trust list, with your personal trust list. You can add or remove "defaulttrust" from your trust list, but it is managed by other people. You can also add or remove people you don't want to be seen as trusted in addition to or separately from the default trust list. If you do not want to see some one as trusted, you can add "~username" to your trust list to exclude them.
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August 11, 2015, 10:05:27 PM
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You seem to be confusing THE default trust list, with your personal trust list. You can add or remove "defaultrust" from your trust list, but it is managed by other people. You can also add or remove people you don't want to be seen as trusted in addition to or separately from the default trust list. If you do not want to see some one as trusted, you can add "~username" to your trust list to exclude them.

Indeed.  And in theory, one of the first things people should do is remove defaulttrust from their trust lists.  I did this recently and it makes the forum much less dramatic.  dserrano congratulated me on it.  Quickseller obviously griped about it.  If people removed defaultrust from their lists and made their own trust lists from scratch based on who they actually trust, we wouldn't have have the problems we have with the trust-ranger movement and their power-jockeying.

OP, see this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1103508.0
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