philipma1957
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August 18, 2015, 08:03:46 PM |
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I don't buy toys in 500+ numbers  Packaged as they are, it's way better than a chili board, where I had a ton of wires and a PC running the mining software. I previously bought chili at 0.75 BTC from MrTeal. Given the current date/time .. these are 2 years late and way more expensive for the controller and casing they come with.. I think they don't have a controller and plug into a usb 2 port. so your pc or rasp pi is the controller. but the pricing as shown by a screen shot of a letter to our fellow miner from Russia ------------- Rabinovitch (Sp?) makes them something I like but won't buy. At 100 it would be over priced but slap to my mining pc point it at ck solo pool and in a year or two maybe I get a block (not likely ) at 235 it is a no go. that extra 135 in price = 45 months of mining it if I use 23 kwatts a month at 13 cents. I can buy an s-3 for 125 downclock it to 300gh and be better off. |
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sidehack
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August 18, 2015, 08:11:41 PM |
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Novak was just comparing this product to our Compac stick. With stock USB power, nine sticks (at $225) will run you about 75GH off about 25W and be dead silent. Or if you crank 'em on a decent hub you could do that with four sticks (at $100) and a light fan for about 30W. And the Compac is probably the worst dollars-per-gigahash miner currently being manufactured, because there's a separate VRM and USB interface and LEDs and oscillator and IO LDOs and heatsink per chip and it's still better than the Mini in every category except "has its own case".
I'd buy one of these boxes if it was about $50, mostly to play with. More'n $200 for it is retarded, when you could buy a pair of S3 with PSU for about the same and get twelve times the hashrate and similar efficiency and noise.
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August 18, 2015, 09:20:44 PM |
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yeah wth are they smoking? this price seems insane for such a novelty item, i was considering one or two for the office desk but screw that.. i just bought 2 Avalon 4.1's for the same price as 4 of these mini's
no brainer to me
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dunand
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August 18, 2015, 09:25:29 PM |
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i just bought 2 Avalon 4.1's for the same price as 4 of these mini's
no brainer to me
Where did you buy the 4.1? |
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August 18, 2015, 09:27:05 PM |
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i just bought 2 Avalon 4.1's for the same price as 4 of these mini's
no brainer to me
Where did you buy the 4.1? got them from holyscott @ holybitcoin.com, hes got them listed with a temp image of an sp20, but i can assure you they are avalon 4.1's |
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Ecnad
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August 18, 2015, 09:35:13 PM |
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i just bought 2 Avalon 4.1's for the same price as 4 of these mini's
no brainer to me
Where did you buy the 4.1? got them from holyscott @ holybitcoin.com, hes got them listed with a temp image of an sp20, but i can assure you they are avalon 4.1's Real good guy too, have bought from him twice, great service. |
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August 18, 2015, 09:45:32 PM |
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i just bought 2 Avalon 4.1's for the same price as 4 of these mini's
no brainer to me
Where did you buy the 4.1? got them from holyscott @ holybitcoin.com, hes got them listed with a temp image of an sp20, but i can assure you they are avalon 4.1's Real good guy too, have bought from him twice, great service. yeah he has great communication, available at all hours (mostly) to answer any questions and such |
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August 19, 2015, 12:16:29 AM |
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Novak was just comparing this product to our Compac stick. With stock USB power, nine sticks (at $225) will run you about 75GH off about 25W and be dead silent. Or if you crank 'em on a decent hub you could do that with four sticks (at $100) and a light fan for about 30W. And the Compac is probably the worst dollars-per-gigahash miner currently being manufactured, because there's a separate VRM and USB interface and LEDs and oscillator and IO LDOs and heatsink per chip and it's still better than the Mini in every category except "has its own case".
I'd buy one of these boxes if it was about $50, mostly to play with. More'n $200 for it is retarded, when you could buy a pair of S3 with PSU for about the same and get twelve times the hashrate and similar efficiency and noise.
With all due respect to you and Novak, I don't think the Compac has the worst $$$/GH ratio. On holybitoin, NEW Aavalon Nano 3 USB sticks are going for about $30. They are less than 5GH, so I think you are safe for the time being. |
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sidehack
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August 19, 2015, 12:43:32 AM |
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I don't know if that's factory-fresh or leftover stock from earlier in the year or whenever, but I did forget to consider them when considering other stick miners. Yeah we got the Nano beat pretty soundly.
I wonder if holybitcoin's prices for Nanos will change if he starts selling Compacs too...
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Tigggger
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August 31, 2015, 10:20:35 AM |
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Impressive ROI figures, tough decision ahead about purchasing  |
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TheRealSteve
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August 31, 2015, 10:31:29 AM |
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Your ROI calculation once again doesn't take the halving in 2016 into account. Nor the halving in 2020. Nor 2024, 2028, 2032...  I'm pretty sure devices like these are not meant for ROI and people understand that I agree with others, though.. I'm not even seeing a novelty factor here that would warrant such a high price. |
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Tigggger
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August 31, 2015, 10:40:58 AM |
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Your ROI calculation once again doesn't take the halving in 2016 into account. Nor the halving in 2020. Nor 2024, 2028, 2032... I figured 193 years on 20c power was enough detail, but I can factor those in if you want |
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Blockhunter
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August 31, 2015, 11:07:38 AM |
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The price of bitcoin is the issue here. Avalon clearly thought BTC prices were going to the moon when they designed this little Gem here. A slight miscalculation.?.
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TheRealSteve
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August 31, 2015, 12:20:01 PM |
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I figured 193 years on 20c power was enough detail, but I can factor those in if you want I need to know if my great, great, great, great, great grandkids will see a profit  But yes, please do factor halving into your spreadsheet  |
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September 01, 2015, 06:41:02 PM |
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What is going on with their site? They offer the nano2 (undisclosed quantity) for 7.20 BTC, and Avalon4 mini for 7.20 BTC (undisclosed quantity). |
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TheRealSteve
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September 01, 2015, 07:09:40 PM |
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I'm guessing webmaster snafu involving one price change (maybe to change the mini to multiple units, but forgot to set) and one copy/paste from the result of that |
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xstr8guy
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September 02, 2015, 02:37:46 AM |
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What year is this?! I had to go back and check that this thread wasn't from 2014. But then again, this wouldn't have made sense a year ago. Strange!
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September 02, 2015, 02:39:29 AM |
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What year is this?! I had to go back and check that this thread wasn't from 2014. But then again, this wouldn't have made sense a year ago. Strange!
This is a current year item. They have it listed on their site now. Would say it's more in the "lotto" mining area. So special area of mining. |
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xstr8guy
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September 02, 2015, 02:53:01 AM |
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What year is this?! I had to go back and check that this thread wasn't from 2014. But then again, this wouldn't have made sense a year ago. Strange!
This is a current year item. They have it listed on their site now. Would say it's more in the "lotto" mining area. So special area of mining. Lol, I understand that. But can't a person buy a used S3 for about the same price and play the solo mining lotto with 20 times the hashrate? This item makes absolutely zero sense (or cents)! Ah but I guess it is more efficient but that hardly justifies the ridiculous price. |
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