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October 28, 2015, 12:54:15 AM |
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Every day Bitshares, ETH, and rootstock.io spend coding is another day NXT's status as obsolete abandonware is confirmed.
I'm curious. If you think Nxt is dying because of Ethereum/Rootstock, why do you think Bitshares will be any different?
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BitUsher
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October 28, 2015, 12:57:00 AM |
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The conceit that NXT has any permanency and is Here To Stay is absurd.
Bitshares appears to be dealing with similar problems as NxT. Ethereum is up in the air and may become irrelevant because turing complete can already be done indirectly on Bitcoin and may prove to be too costly and unnecessary to do on a blockchain with "gas" as ultimately you need oracles to collect/manage data in many cases. rootstock is interesting but one example among many of smart contracts projects. It is absurd to think NxT won't be around for many years. It is almost impossible to kill currencies and NxT is one of the most popular cryptocoins around with at least 500-2k users. Even the scam Paycoin still exists and is being used even after all the evidence and investigations. This being said I expect NxT to continue losing marketshare regardless if they reverse direction and increase marketcap or continue to slide in value. There is going to be many black swan events and things will get very competive in the future as we have yet to see any legit corporate coin or government "blockchain" coins enter the market. I won't touch any of those coins but a majority of the population will. Even Bitcoin may be toppled from controlling mindshare.
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October 28, 2015, 01:07:17 AM |
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yawn, nxt is bad yadda, yadda ... sure, yes, no but... yadda, yadda ... yawn
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iCEBREAKER
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October 28, 2015, 01:13:03 AM |
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The conceit that NXT has any permanency and is Here To Stay is absurd.
Bitshares appears to be dealing with similar problems as NxT. Ethereum is up in the air and may become irrelevant because turing complete can already be done indirectly on Bitcoin and may prove to be too costly and unnecessary to do on a blockchain with "gas" as ultimately you need oracles to collect/manage data in many cases. rootstock is interesting but one example among many of smart contracts projects. It is absurd to think NxT won't be around for many years. It is almost impossible to kill currencies and NxT is one of the most popular cryptocoins around with at least 500-2k users. Even the scam Paycoin still exists and is being used even after all the evidence and investigations. This being said I expect NxT to continue losing marketshare regardless if they reverse direction and increase marketcap or continue to slide in value. There is going to be many black swan events and things will get very competive in the future as we have yet to see any legit corporate coin or government "blockchain" coins enter the market. I won't touch any of those coins but a majority of the population will. Of course NXT can continue roaming the land among the herds of zombie coins like Tenebrix, IxCoin, and Paycoin. I meant NXT, as a viable project/technology with a future of growth and adoption, is hopeless. "500-2k users?" For what are these users using NXT? Speculation? Where are the tx, github commit, trade volume, and client download stats showing anyone not already invested gives even the slightest fuck about NXT? 2014 called and wants its favorite scam platform back!
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nexern
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October 28, 2015, 01:26:00 AM |
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Of course Monero can continue roaming the land among the herds of zombie coins like Tenebrix, IxCoin, and Paycoin. I meant Monero, as a viable project/technology with a future of growth and adoption, is hopeless. "500-2k users?" For what are these users using Monero? Speculation? Where are the tx, github commit, trade volume, and client download stats showing anyone not already invested gives even the slightest fuck about Monero? 2014 called and wants its favorite scam platform back! FIFY, now it makes sense.
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BitUsher
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October 28, 2015, 01:29:18 AM |
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Of course NXT can continue roaming the land among the herds of zombie coins like Tenebrix, IxCoin, and Paycoin. I meant NXT, as a viable project/technology with a future of growth and adoption, is hopeless. "500-2k users?" For what are these users using NXT? Speculation? Where are the tx, github commit, trade volume, and client download stats showing anyone not already invested gives even the slightest fuck about NXT? 2014 called and wants its favorite scam platform back! Throwing stones from glass houses, when in reality bitcoin is young and fragile with a pathetic adoption rate. Where does that place the alts you are so fond of?
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iCEBREAKER
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October 28, 2015, 02:23:20 AM |
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Of course NXT can continue roaming the land among the herds of zombie coins like Tenebrix, IxCoin, and Paycoin. I meant NXT, as a viable project/technology with a future of growth and adoption, is hopeless. "500-2k users?" For what are these users using NXT? Speculation? Where are the tx, github commit, trade volume, and client download stats showing anyone not already invested gives even the slightest fuck about NXT? 2014 called and wants its favorite scam platform back! Throwing stones from glass houses, when in reality bitcoin is young and fragile with a pathetic adoption rate. Where does that place the alts you are so fond of? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
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October 28, 2015, 02:33:40 AM |
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iCEBREAKER loves NXT.
What's your account? I'll tip you some for helping to keep NXT visible.
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LiQio
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October 28, 2015, 05:14:29 AM |
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(Sorry iCY, couldn't resist )But honestly, I would also really like to know: Why are you trying to pump NXT so badly - are you a bagholder?
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October 28, 2015, 05:43:14 AM |
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Of course Monero can continue roaming the land among the herds of zombie coins like Tenebrix, IxCoin, and Paycoin. I meant Monero, as a viable project/technology with a future of growth and adoption, is hopeless. "500-2k users?" For what are these users using Monero? Speculation? Where are the tx, github commit, trade volume, and client download stats showing anyone not already invested gives even the slightest fuck about Monero? 2014 called and wants its favorite scam platform back! FIFY, now it makes sense.
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October 28, 2015, 08:06:36 PM |
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Still, you've got admire iCE's determination.....but maybe he is just projecting his disappointment with Monero on to NXT. As people have pointed out, you can substitute 'Monero' for 'Nxt' in all of his posts, without losing any of the message, as iCE almost never bothers to include any information to back up his position.
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October 29, 2015, 06:50:15 AM |
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Still, you've got admire iCE's determination.....but maybe he is just projecting his disappointment with Monero on to NXT. As people have pointed out, you can substitute 'Monero' for 'Nxt' in all of his posts, without losing any of the message, as iCE almost never bothers to include any information to back up his position.
I would say the latter. Also, what comes to mind is the question about iCYs time allocation: Given the appararently large amounts of time he spends in these completely futile and destructive pursuits, he can't have that many other successful and satisfying things going on in his life. In other words: A guy who signed up to bitcointalk in mid 2011, and in 2015 still wastes his time uselessly dredging altcoin shallows? Mud slinging? If this was the kind of super sharp blockchain guru he would like to project, he would not be doing this, "but kickin' it in the Caribbean" [as Marcellus Wallace woud say]. But he isn't. So: He fucked up on his Bitcoin investments, which must have taken a great deal of stupidity given that development, and now his Monero interest is tanking too. Yeeees, easily to surmise how that would elicit a hefty degree of rancor. And then add some nice doses of pettyness and vindictiveness, and <presto>: A Loser, projecting diappointments, venting frustration, and throwing tantrums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cpGQ3zUuB0
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October 29, 2015, 10:08:26 AM |
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So NXT just stabilized in the past 3 days, how does the FUD-ers explain that. If i`m correct, the FUD-ers said that NXT will go to 0 soon as all major holders will dump it. In reality it has lost only 0.35% of its value, pretty far from what they said will happen. So NXT is a stable currency after all
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Ivan166
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October 29, 2015, 10:34:35 AM |
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On the Nxt forum there is a stat that 509 was the most online ever , but because of the severe decrease in volume and market cap adoption may have reversed.
Adoption has definitely reversed. 18 months ago, there was a brief wave of hype. That hype and pump are long over. Since June 14, the price has been plummeting. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#chartsThe conceit that NXT has any permanency and is Here To Stay is absurd. SuperNet, the scam platform built on NXT's scam platform, is likewise dying because its hype and "investments" never produced anything of value: http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/supernet-unity/#chartsThere is no likely scenario where this trend turns around. Every day Bitshares, ETH, and rootstock.io spend coding is another day NXT's status as obsolete abandonware is confirmed. I can appreciate your statement. I would agree with you. Unfortunately, NXT was initially distributed to poor minded and lazy people. First investors had a great chance to rise into the large scale financial platform, but they missed the boat. First mover advantage was destroyed. Take a look to Come-from-Beyond, NXT ex-core developer. There are only some facts: 1) Come-from-Beyond has zero NXT. 2) Come-from-Beyond left NXT core developer team long time ago. 3) Come-from-Beyond does not love NXT ancient whales. 4) Come-from-Beyond predicted shrinking of NXT market cap until 1M in near future. It's enough to abandon NXT as unsuccessful platform. Many of outstanding and talented people left the project. Whales (LSUM and etc) do not stop to unload bulks of becoming useless coins. It's time to face the truth - NXT is dying.
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October 29, 2015, 10:41:18 AM |
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NXT was initially distributed to poor minded and lazy people.
Hmm, if I bought 1BTC worth of Nxt during IPO, they would be worth 110BTC today. Doesn't sound very poor minded to me. 1) Come-from-Beyond has zero NXT. 2) Come-from-Beyond left NXT core developer team long time ago. 3) Come-from-Beyond does not love NXT ancient whales. 4) Come-from-Beyond predicted shrinking of NXT market cap until 1M in near future.
1) false. 2) true 3) source? 4) source?
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Ivan166
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October 29, 2015, 10:54:02 AM |
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NXT was initially distributed to poor minded and lazy people.
Hmm, if I bought 1BTC worth of Nxt during IPO, they would be worth 110BTC today. Doesn't sound very poor minded to me. I wrote only "poor minded", not " very poor". It is not trivial task to sell that large amount due low volume of trades. And you would be in NXT only for own profit not for platform benefit. Whales also are thinking as you. Pure greed. 1) Come-from-Beyond has zero NXT. 2) Come-from-Beyond left NXT core developer team long time ago. 3) Come-from-Beyond does not love NXT ancient whales. 4) Come-from-Beyond predicted shrinking of NXT market cap until 1M in near future.
1) false. 2) true 3) source? 4) source? Come-from-Beyond knows a few languages, except Java. Sometimes he posts something interesting.
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October 29, 2015, 11:07:43 AM |
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[...] Come-from-Beyond knows a few languages, except Java. Sometimes he posts something interesting.
You can also post links to Russian threads. Your statement doesn't qualify as a valid source.
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RealBitcoin
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October 29, 2015, 11:10:51 AM |
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1) Come-from-Beyond has zero NXT.
How do you know? The whole concept of cryptocurrency is to make financial privacy possible. He could hold 0 NXT or hold 80% of the market, you cannot know. I do hold some NXT now, so I`m putting my money where my mouth is, and believe strongly in the future of it
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October 29, 2015, 11:11:53 AM |
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1) false. 2) true 3) source? 4) source?
I wouldn't say that owning 100 NXT can be considered as owning NXT. It's true that I predicted 1M marketcap, but Damelon did a "dirty" trick and didn't sell collected funds, ruining my reputation of a good predictor
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October 29, 2015, 12:20:13 PM |
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I wouldn't say that owning 100 NXT can be considered as owning NXT
True, but the asperger in me couldn't resist
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