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August 16, 2015, 07:31:00 AM
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


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August 16, 2015, 06:37:15 PM
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


As always, invest only and only what you can afford to lose. To trade, if you want to day trade simply get on an exchange with very high volume such as bitifinex. Im guessing you want to trade against USD and EUR. If you want to trade against other cryptos, Poloniex has a lot of options, but stay with high volume coins only, such as Monero and Maidsafe. It's very hard to do this well tho. I personally hold long term and buy a bit of BTC monthly with my wage.
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August 16, 2015, 08:11:55 PM
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Hello and welcome to the Bitcoin world.

The short answer is no, you don't need any brokers middle man and etc. All you need is a computer and some bitcoins or some Fiat money that you will wire transfer to exchange. There are many exchanges, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Kraken, Btc-e are the biggest. On some you need to get verified, on some you don't so choose them wisely, this also depends where do you live.

Maybe the easiest is to buy bitcoins on localbitcoins.com, there you don't need to get verified, or even to get them a hand to hand if you live in a major city with many bitcoin users. Then, when you will have some bitcoins (and you can literally trade from $20-$20,000 that's a beauty of Bitcoin trading) maybe is the best to send them to btc-e and start trading. On btc-e you dont need to get verified to trade and you can withdraw bitcoins without the verification.

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August 19, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Hello and welcome to the Bitcoin world.

The short answer is no, you don't need any brokers middle man and etc. All you need is a computer and some bitcoins or some Fiat money that you will wire transfer to exchange. There are many exchanges, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Kraken, Btc-e are the biggest. On some you need to get verified, on some you don't so choose them wisely, this also depends where do you live.

Maybe the easiest is to buy bitcoins on localbitcoins.com, there you don't need to get verified, or even to get them a hand to hand if you live in a major city with many bitcoin users. Then, when you will have some bitcoins (and you can literally trade from $20-$20,000 that's a beauty of Bitcoin trading) maybe is the best to send them to btc-e and start trading. On btc-e you dont need to get verified to trade and you can withdraw bitcoins without the verification.

Good luck!

hey ..
thanks ...  but honestly ur words flew over my head..
i think i must await a lil more and read some good topics to get knowledge about BTC trading...
i will like to have some great tips to get trained for the BTC trading


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August 19, 2015, 04:21:30 PM
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


As always, invest only and only what you can afford to lose. To trade, if you want to day trade simply get on an exchange with very high volume such as bitifinex. Im guessing you want to trade against USD and EUR. If you want to trade against other cryptos, Poloniex has a lot of options, but stay with high volume coins only, such as Monero and Maidsafe. It's very hard to do this well tho. I personally hold long term and buy a bit of BTC monthly with my wage.

there is no word like lose in my dictionary .. 
the only thng is success .. and off-course i want to trade against USD ..
i'll first get some training of BTC then go for it..

edit : thanks


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August 19, 2015, 04:26:02 PM
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may be this can to answer your question about trading btc.

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MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days
Joon Ian Wong (@joonian) | Published on October 14, 2014 at 15:38 BST

Trading bitcoin profitably remains more of an art than an exact science.
On any given day, Reddit is awash with theories explaining bitcoin price movements, ranging from exotic technical indicators to the machinations of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) peddlers.
That may change, however, with a new paper that claims to have devised a trading strategy that can produce an 89% return in less than two months.
The authors, Massachusetts Institute of Technology associate professor Devavrat Shah and computer science student Kang Zhang, collected data from OKCoin, the world's largest exchange by trading volume, from February to July.
They fed the data into a predictive statistical model they have developed and used the results to conduct a simulation of CNY/BTC trades. In the simulation, the trader could only go long or short 1 BTC in each trade.
Volatility boosts profits

The trading simulation, conducted on data taken from 50 consecutive days in May and June, produced highly profitable results. The simulated trader invested 3,781 yuan and made 2,872 trades. The total cumulative profit was 3,362 yuan, or an 89% return on the amount invested.
The trading strategy produced the greatest profits when volatility was high, in the period at the end of May and the start of June, and was still profitable when the price declined steadily at the end of the simulated period.
The trading strategy also produced a Sharpe ratio of 4.1, the authors write. This expresses a portfolio's return after adjusting for the risk-free rate of return. A high ratio shows that an investor produced returns while taking on less risk, with scores of three and over being considered excellent.
The authors' Sharpe ratio compares favourably to benchmark mutual funds, like the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, the world's largest such vehicle, which is worth $355bn. That fund has a one-year Sharpe ratio of 1.79 and has returned 8.32% in the last year.

Peering into the data
The paper's results may also support the claims of technical traders in bitcoin markets. The authors analysed their prediction data and found evidence of 'triangle’ and 'head and shoulders’ patterns in the price charts.
"This seems to suggest that there are indeed such patterns and [... explains] the success of our trading strategy," they write.
A preliminary version of the paper, titled Bayesian Regression and Bitcoin, was published in the Proceedings of the 2014 Allerton Conference on Communication, Control and Computing – one of the longest-running and most prestigious conferences in its field. The three-day conference concluded on 3rd October.
Given the simulation's restricted trade size of 1 BTC, could more money be made with more capital at stake? The authors write that more research is required, although they speculate that profit can be magnified.
The authors also note that further profits could be produced by crunching more data, although this would require "computation at a massive scale". They used a 32-core machine with 128GB of RAM for the study and "representative" time-series data at the predictive modelling stage.

Origins in Twitter analysis
Shah and Zhang's predictive simulation is based on a 'latent source model' that was described in a paper published last year and was designed to predict what would become 'trending topics' on Twitter.
Shah co-authored that paper with two researchers at MIT and Twitter. Their model was able to predict trending topics accurately up to 79% of the time, according to the authors.

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may be this can to answer your question about trading btc.

read moreover..
MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days
Joon Ian Wong (@joonian) | Published on October 14, 2014 at 15:38 BST

Trading bitcoin profitably remains more of an art than an exact science.
On any given day, Reddit is awash with theories explaining bitcoin price movements, ranging from exotic technical indicators to the machinations of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) peddlers.
That may change, however, with a new paper that claims to have devised a trading strategy that can produce an 89% return in less than two months.
The authors, Massachusetts Institute of Technology associate professor Devavrat Shah and computer science student Kang Zhang, collected data from OKCoin, the world's largest exchange by trading volume, from February to July.
They fed the data into a predictive statistical model they have developed and used the results to conduct a simulation of CNY/BTC trades. In the simulation, the trader could only go long or short 1 BTC in each trade.
Volatility boosts profits

The trading simulation, conducted on data taken from 50 consecutive days in May and June, produced highly profitable results. The simulated trader invested 3,781 yuan and made 2,872 trades. The total cumulative profit was 3,362 yuan, or an 89% return on the amount invested.
The trading strategy produced the greatest profits when volatility was high, in the period at the end of May and the start of June, and was still profitable when the price declined steadily at the end of the simulated period.
The trading strategy also produced a Sharpe ratio of 4.1, the authors write. This expresses a portfolio's return after adjusting for the risk-free rate of return. A high ratio shows that an investor produced returns while taking on less risk, with scores of three and over being considered excellent.
The authors' Sharpe ratio compares favourably to benchmark mutual funds, like the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, the world's largest such vehicle, which is worth $355bn. That fund has a one-year Sharpe ratio of 1.79 and has returned 8.32% in the last year.

Peering into the data
The paper's results may also support the claims of technical traders in bitcoin markets. The authors analysed their prediction data and found evidence of 'triangle’ and 'head and shoulders’ patterns in the price charts.
"This seems to suggest that there are indeed such patterns and [... explains] the success of our trading strategy," they write.
A preliminary version of the paper, titled Bayesian Regression and Bitcoin, was published in the Proceedings of the 2014 Allerton Conference on Communication, Control and Computing – one of the longest-running and most prestigious conferences in its field. The three-day conference concluded on 3rd October.
Given the simulation's restricted trade size of 1 BTC, could more money be made with more capital at stake? The authors write that more research is required, although they speculate that profit can be magnified.
The authors also note that further profits could be produced by crunching more data, although this would require "computation at a massive scale". They used a 32-core machine with 128GB of RAM for the study and "representative" time-series data at the predictive modelling stage.

Origins in Twitter analysis
Shah and Zhang's predictive simulation is based on a 'latent source model' that was described in a paper published last year and was designed to predict what would become 'trending topics' on Twitter.
Shah co-authored that paper with two researchers at MIT and Twitter. Their model was able to predict trending topics accurately up to 79% of the time, according to the authors.

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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Bitcoin doesn't really follow technical TA unfortunately.

Since the time i started to check out trading i found that okcoin.com is your best choice for trading bitcoins. They have practically no fee and leverage trading. It's often hard on other exchanges with high fee.

If you are interested into forex then check out 1broker.com.

And for altcoin trading... there are alredy a lot of exchanges you might use. Everyone is different and more or less trustworthy.

I would suggest you start with $20 on okcoin.com. It's no problem doing it with such low amounts in the bitcoin area. Fees are very different than in the real world.

Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Bitcoin doesn't really follow technical TA unfortunately.

Since the time i started to check out trading i found that okcoin.com is your best choice for trading bitcoins. They have practically no fee and leverage trading. It's often hard on other exchanges with high fee.

If you are interested into forex then check out 1broker.com.

And for altcoin trading... there are alredy a lot of exchanges you might use. Everyone is different and more or less trustworthy.

I would suggest you start with $20 on okcoin.com. It's no problem doing it with such low amounts in the bitcoin area. Fees are very different than in the real world.

hmmm ..thanks even a better ans for my question ..
but i'm unfamiliar with bitcoin trading rules or what i mean to say is what are the key terms that one must kept in mind to trade ..
and yeah off-course the amount is quite good for beginners ..


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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Bitcoin doesn't really follow technical TA unfortunately.

Since the time i started to check out trading i found that okcoin.com is your best choice for trading bitcoins. They have practically no fee and leverage trading. It's often hard on other exchanges with high fee.

If you are interested into forex then check out 1broker.com.

And for altcoin trading... there are alredy a lot of exchanges you might use. Everyone is different and more or less trustworthy.

I would suggest you start with $20 on okcoin.com. It's no problem doing it with such low amounts in the bitcoin area. Fees are very different than in the real world.

hmmm ..thanks even a better ans for my question ..
but i'm unfamiliar with bitcoin trading rules or what i mean to say is what are the key terms that one must kept in mind to trade ..
and yeah off-course the amount is quite good for beginners ..

Key Terms are:

* Buy when price is low and sell when high. Cheesy
* Don't act on emotions. Never. If you feel you will miss a chance when you don't act fast then go away and sleep or so. Emotions are the worst in that game.
* Start with a very small amount. It's possible in bitcoin because of the low fees.

Besides that, try to learn technical analysis to get a feeling about how markets react. Of course it is even then not said that you will be successfull. You know... profits from trading only come from losses from others. And it's easy to be on the last side.

Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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You don't need any broker in order to trade bitcoin. You will only need fiat money and an exchange that is legally allowed to operate in your country. If you are from the USA I would suggest you to use the Coinable exchange since it's the most trust worthy one.
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You don't need any broker in order to trade bitcoin. You will only need fiat money and an exchange that is legally allowed to operate in your country. If you are from the USA I would suggest you to use the Coinable exchange since it's the most trust worthy one.

I am still searching for creative ways to convert my fiat into bitcoin without directly buying bitcoins because that shows a proof that you own bitcoins, and what is worth was when you purchased it, which is a conflict with your privacy because even the govt doesn't deserve to know how much you own and where it is invested, they didn't buy it, you did.
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Hello everyone...

Before joining this forum I was a gold trader ... Gradually I came to know that trading can be done with bitcoin as well...
For gold trade I use Forex Meta trader... Now wonder about BTC ... what thing I required to start a bitcoin trading.... how much I have to invest here???
And how the trends move in BTC ... Do I need some broker to start trading??? I have seen allots of sight regarding this...but I’m not sure they are real not fake...
One this which seem to be original is https://simplefx.com/dashboard/?utm_source=BCC&utm_medium=CURL&utm_campaign=BBCMK
Kindly give your suggestion about this ... if you are a BTC trader give some tips to start up and how to maintain my balance…
post here or PM me...
Thanks


Bitcoin doesn't really follow technical TA unfortunately.

Since the time i started to check out trading i found that okcoin.com is your best choice for trading bitcoins. They have practically no fee and leverage trading. It's often hard on other exchanges with high fee.

If you are interested into forex then check out 1broker.com.

And for altcoin trading... there are alredy a lot of exchanges you might use. Everyone is different and more or less trustworthy.

I would suggest you start with $20 on okcoin.com. It's no problem doing it with such low amounts in the bitcoin area. Fees are very different than in the real world.

hmmm ..thanks even a better ans for my question ..
but i'm unfamiliar with bitcoin trading rules or what i mean to say is what are the key terms that one must kept in mind to trade ..
and yeah off-course the amount is quite good for beginners ..

Key Terms are:

* Buy when price is low and sell when high. Cheesy
* Don't act on emotions. Never. If you feel you will miss a chance when you don't act fast then go away and sleep or so. Emotions are the worst in that game.
* Start with a very small amount. It's possible in bitcoin because of the low fees.

Besides that, try to learn technical analysis to get a feeling about how markets react. Of course it is even then not said that you will be successfull. You know... profits from trading only come from losses from others. And it's easy to be on the last side.

Ahan .. now that explain me even in better i get your point ... or in the best way ..
so the BTC is so far familiar to gold trading .. as in the same key term is to be keep in mind ..  Smiley
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You don't need any broker in order to trade bitcoin. You will only need fiat money and an exchange that is legally allowed to operate in your country. If you are from the USA I would suggest you to use the Coinable exchange since it's the most trust worthy one.

I am still searching for creative ways to convert my fiat into bitcoin without directly buying bitcoins because that shows a proof that you own bitcoins, and what is worth was when you purchased it, which is a conflict with your privacy because even the govt doesn't deserve to know how much you own and where it is invested, they didn't buy it, you did.

You might want to check out NuBits and BitUSD. You can hold coins instead of fiat and you can hedge against a falling bitcoin price by holding them. On top you don't need to have laying your fiat on exchanges.

Nubits already survived a couple of big crashes and they still are alive and stable.
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bitcoin is a good prospect for business but bitcoin have a greater risk than you are trading gold. bitcoin has a high price fluctuations. Your initial capital is "you are ready to accept any outcome".
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bitcoin is a good prospect for business but bitcoin have a greater risk than you are trading gold. bitcoin has a high price fluctuations. Your initial capital is "you are ready to accept any outcome".
but in trade its famous "more risk more profit"
so ,i this rule is same for bitcoint trading Wink


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