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October 16, 2012, 05:32:26 AM
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BTC magazine interviews Nefario concerning GLBSE closing
 http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/

The one exploit that accepted negative share values to be traded was interesting.

Nefario lied about this in the interview. Not sure why, but he lied about the timing of the attack.
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October 16, 2012, 06:31:27 AM
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Your GLBSE account has been partially processed. 90% of your funds have been returned to you with this payment. Once we recieve the remaining funds from our treasurer and secretary the final payment will be made and you will be informed. We will also inform you when we process your assets, allowing you to continue your relationship with your issuer.

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October 16, 2012, 06:45:09 AM
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Coins in my wallet. Done and dusted.

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October 16, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
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I received about 60% of what I expected, but I am not sure that is from GLBSE. I got no mail also.
The sending address ends with: RH4Bub
Anyone got reimbursed from such address?
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October 16, 2012, 08:31:25 AM
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I got mail and 90% of my coins

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October 16, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
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So are the missing 10% because ColdHardMetal didnt send the btc from paper wallet to nefario so he can pay it back?

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October 16, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
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Its a lie. He has all the coins already.

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October 16, 2012, 12:42:55 PM
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October 16, 2012, 12:55:31 PM
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I only have read that theymos sent the coins to the paperwallet that coldhardmetal was supervising. But i didnt read that the money moved from there. What was the address of the paper wallet? It should be proofable fast.

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October 16, 2012, 01:28:37 PM
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theymos... but what would you take as an evidence? I mean what do you think the police wold take as evidence when the police would care about bitcoins. They would use the exact same info. So i dont fully get why you did this.

Would you give out the details when #bitcoin-police checked the traces in database and ask you for evidence? Otherwise bitcoinuser would be in disadvantage to real world user again. Because btc isnt real money for the real police yet.

My current policy is to release IPs only in these cases:
- Police send me convincing evidence that someone is guilty. I then release IPs to the police only. (This has happened.)
- A court with jurisdiction over the forum sends me a subpoena that isn't obviously unjust. (This has not happened.)
- A scammer is absolutely proven to be guilty and stops reasonably negotiating with his victims.
- Someone is repeatedly evading bans.

The accused person in the GLBSE case wasn't absolutely proven to be guilty, and wasn't even given a chance to respond to the allegations. Nefario never went to the police as far as I know.

I'm not sure whether I should release IPs at all, really. I'd like to see a discussion about the morality of this. Releasing IPs enables people to act violently toward the accused person, either in person or through police. Is it really right to commit violence against someone just because he did something non-violently over the Internet? I'm not sure. Services should ideally be set up so that scamming is impossible and as a result no one is ever tempted toward violence.

You are aware of far more than you let on. The person in question is (and was) currently operating a business on these forums that is highly succeptable to fraud. The person in question has long since admitted his guilt and returned, according to both you and others, a substantial (but possibly not total) sum of the money he took. Said person does not have a scammer tag and has to my knowledge not yet been revealed.

This situation was handled extremely irresponsibly by all parties involved. In particular, now that it's public knowledge, I will comment on the fact that you as an officer of GLBSE and majority shareholder failed to act in the best interests of GLBSE and use your power to help catch the person in question. As a result of that you delayed and endangered GLBSE user funds.

As someone who lost over $10,000 of personal money when GLBSE shut down I guess I have a lot of misdirected upsetness. You need to wake up theymos and realize the position you find yourself in is not one which sits well with a lassiez-faire attitude. You are a poor moderator. You need to think, and to make some just decisions around here. This forum needs justice. Why don't you dish some out? In the case of MPOE-PR paying people to troll on these forums I want you to think very carefully about this next bit. These forums contain several extremely well documented cases where people have experienced financial loss as a direct result of trolling done on these forums. If you want to see police orders in no short order I can promise you, one day you will. I don't mean on you I mean on others. Why don't you do what is right and not let that kind of thing happen in the first place? I've lost contracts as a direct result of the trolling on these forums. Think about that for a moment. I can easily demonstrate directly related financial damages. That is ample grounds for libel and slander cases -- i'm talking real high class stuff here. Malicious criminal slander. You need to police these forums or hire someone to do it proper.

Why don't you make me a moderator Theymos?

Is it because I would actually ban some of the slimeball fucks who infest these forums?

Think for a moment what that says about your forum moderation policy. Please.
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October 16, 2012, 01:34:08 PM
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I'd just like to take this opportunity to give props to Gavin Andresen on his warnings about GLBSE back in the days of the bitcoin show. 
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October 16, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
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Why don't you make me a moderator Theymos?

Is it because I would actually ban some of the slimeball fucks who infest these forums?

Sorry to burst your bubble, Vampire Princess, but Moderators don't have ban powers.

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October 16, 2012, 02:34:49 PM
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I got my email, but not any funds.  got the email 3 days ago.
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October 16, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
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I'm still waiting for an email...
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October 16, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
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Why don't you make me a moderator Theymos?

Is it because I would actually ban some of the slimeball fucks who infest these forums?

Sorry to burst your bubble, Vampire Princess, but Moderators don't have ban powers.

They would if I was a moderator.

I would be very fair. Right now, there's no one on my ban list, for example.
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October 16, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
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I'm still waiting for an email...

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October 16, 2012, 04:31:56 PM
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Why don't you make me a moderator Theymos?

Is it because I would actually ban some of the slimeball fucks who infest these forums?

Sorry to burst your bubble, Vampire Princess, but Moderators don't have ban powers.

They would if I was a moderator.

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October 16, 2012, 04:37:26 PM
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No email or no funds so far.......

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October 16, 2012, 04:45:59 PM
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I'd just like to take this opportunity to give props to Gavin Andresen on his warnings about GLBSE back in the days of the bitcoin show. 

Agreed. Good on him for not letting greed cloud his judgement.


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October 16, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
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My current policy is to release IPs only in these cases:
- Police send me convincing evidence that someone is guilty. I then release IPs to the police only. (This has happened.)
- A court with jurisdiction over the forum sends me a subpoena that isn't obviously unjust. (This has not happened.)
- A scammer is absolutely proven to be guilty and stops reasonably negotiating with his victims.
- Someone is repeatedly evading bans.


+1 for policy.

Since theymos is/was a co-owner of GLBSE, and still refused to give up identity details over a questionable request, that's double laude
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