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August 26, 2015, 12:25:02 AM
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slush pool hashrate increased by 10ph/s in the last 24 hours... new miners being tested?

I imagine that bitmain would test on their own pool.

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August 26, 2015, 01:52:41 AM
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I haven't read all these 14 pages, any idea when approx an actual miner might be released?

No indication yet.


Third Q of 2015 which usually falls over into the 4th Q . so to say when no one really knows when but bitmain they have some kind of set date, if i had to guess maybe by the end of OCT at the latest if not then, or before, then around Xmas with a discount . Smiley .

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August 26, 2015, 01:57:04 AM
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slush pool hashrate increased by 10ph/s in the last 24 hours... new miners being tested?


That's not bitmain if it was like some one else said they would be on there own pool or off some were we don't know of.

when the S7 hit well know for sure count on that.




whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size . There face book page explains it all .  no more off topic  sorry this is and isn't .

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August 26, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

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August 26, 2015, 03:46:49 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.
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August 26, 2015, 03:57:41 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.
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August 26, 2015, 04:00:47 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.

Yes it is horribly confusing. Because many confuse XT with BIP100 or BIP101, they thing "Oh they all bring block increase so its all the same and finally there's actual code that was released that could do it! Wowe!" and they miss the whole fact XT include non related code as well.

It would be very nice to not see whales and big pools obfuscate their vote for XT by labeling it BIP10X. Hopefully the S7 hash stays out of it too.
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August 26, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.

Yes it is horribly confusing. Because many confuse XT with BIP100 or BIP101, they thing "Oh they all bring block increase so its all the same and finally there's actual code that was released that could do it! Wowe!" and they miss the whole fact XT include non related code as well.

Only the BIP101 part of XT would cause a hardfork. So from the pool's perspective it makes sense to vote for/against that specific BIP, whether it's implemented in XT or in Core.

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August 26, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.

Yes it is horribly confusing. Because many confuse XT with BIP100 or BIP101, they thing "Oh they all bring block increase so its all the same and finally there's actual code that was released that could do it! Wowe!" and they miss the whole fact XT include non related code as well.

Only the BIP101 part of XT would cause a hardfork. So from the pool's perspective it makes sense to vote for/against that specific BIP, whether it's implemented in XT or in Core.

I understand why they're classed together then, but i wouldn't personally. I'd say XT is a step worser.

But anyways, i think avoiding the hard fork way is the way to go. With a strict implemention of BIP100, i think we would be better off.

I hope Bitmain will feel that way too, since with their size, they can basically prevent it from happening since i think BIP100 would need over 75% of block for 10 days strait?
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August 26, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.

Yes it is horribly confusing. Because many confuse XT with BIP100 or BIP101, they thing "Oh they all bring block increase so its all the same and finally there's actual code that was released that could do it! Wowe!" and they miss the whole fact XT include non related code as well.

Only the BIP101 part of XT would cause a hardfork. So from the pool's perspective it makes sense to vote for/against that specific BIP, whether it's implemented in XT or in Core.

I understand why they're classed together then, but i wouldn't personally. I'd say XT is a step worser.

But anyways, i think avoiding the hard fork way is the way to go. With a strict implemention of BIP100, i think we would be better off.

I hope Bitmain will feel that way too, since with their size, they can basically prevent it from happening since i think BIP100 would need over 75% of block for 10 days strait?

BIP100 would need a hard fork too. It has a different way of adjusting the block size - 90% majority, continuous voting by pools.

BIP101 is the one that needs 75% and it's looking at the last 1000 blocks (~7 days), starting in January. There is no voting after that, block size set to 8MB then doubles every 2 years.

The whole thing is mostly political. I'm guessing big pools would prefer BIP100 as they could wield influence with voting. For the little guy BIP101 with its predictable schedule works fine.

Anyway, this is getting off topic, sorry.

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August 26, 2015, 05:04:12 PM
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whats happening on slash pool is the voting for bigger blocks size .

That's what I thought at first too. But if you look at the pool stats this whale is not pointed at the BIP101 port. And it is a whale, since it's got over 12 PH/s.

Is it a XT port or a BIP101 port? Because those arent the same thing. At all.

I don't think it's easy to tell which ports folks are using on Slush. The one hint I have found is under the "Pool Statisitics" tab is a chart with PH rate graphs broken out with BIP101 as one of the labels. I don't see an XT labeled line. My simplistic understanding is that SLUSH is essentially "labeling" blocks according to which pool you use. I think that BIP101 is the moniker that he's using at this time, but the whole XT/BIP101/Blocksize fiasco is terribly confusing for most folks. It's quite possible I have this wrong, as I expect about 90% of the miners in the world do.

Yes it is horribly confusing. Because many confuse XT with BIP100 or BIP101, they thing "Oh they all bring block increase so its all the same and finally there's actual code that was released that could do it! Wowe!" and they miss the whole fact XT include non related code as well.

It would be very nice to not see whales and big pools obfuscate their vote for XT by labeling it BIP10X. Hopefully the S7 hash stays out of it too.

This is what happened to me.  I got both BIP101 and BIP100 confused and thought that there was finally a consensus. I've only been following the debate off and on.
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August 26, 2015, 08:36:44 PM
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i dont really understand the difference between the two, ill have to do some more research
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August 27, 2015, 12:18:11 AM
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Is this "BITMAIN launches 4th generation Bitcoin mining ASIC: BM1385" or "Let's have bigger blocks discussion" ?

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Drop the block size talk its off topic!

Hey bitmain

What about a 6th machine @ 1380w keeping it insides the normal power range for most people without needing custom power solutions..

Make a speed setting that lets users have a max speed version & an alternate speed setting that uses max efficiency to give this miner extra life!

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Edit : Just use the newer 1600w power supply u already have in stock...

Just ease off on the fan noise.. 50db to 60db would be great..

And to ease your pain - Lock it off so no overclocking..

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Edit edit : And lets make the price 6.0btc which means about US$1400...

I'm in at that power & price point, Im sure plenty other would be too...

Make this almost as powerful as the S5+ but at half the power consumption!

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August 27, 2015, 05:38:09 AM
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Drop the block size talk its off topic!

Hey bitmain

What about a 6th machine @ 1380w keeping it insides the normal power range for most people without needing custom power solutions..

Make a speed setting that lets users have a max speed version & an alternate speed setting that uses max efficiency to give this miner extra life!

You could also use 2 power supplies. It's kind of annoying but it work fine.

But i'm expecting the S7 to be within the same form factor/heat dissipation of the S5 so i would be surprised if the watt consumption would be over 690w at the wall at full speed.
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But i'm expecting the S7 to be within the same form factor/heat dissipation of the S5 so i would be surprised if the watt consumption would be over 690w at the wall at full speed.

I sure hope you are correct. It's just a bit worrisome that Bitmain introduced the S5+ "monster mine" about the same time. I'd rather they didn't always think "bigger is better".
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As long as Bitmain sticks with their recent "string" design choice, the only option for "undervolt" or "overvolt" adjustment is to adjust the supply voltage into the entire hash board.
 In THEORY they could put an adjustable buck converter at the power input to an entire string, but that defeats the whole purpose (simplicity AKA make it CHEAP to build) of a string design.

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But i'm expecting the S7 to be within the same form factor/heat dissipation of the S5 so i would be surprised if the watt consumption would be over 690w at the wall at full speed.

I sure hope you are correct. It's just a bit worrisome that Bitmain introduced the S5+ "monster mine" about the same time. I'd rather they didn't always think "bigger is better".


some one said some place it was meant it to be a S6 but sense it didn't fit the u case thing they named it s5 +, how true that is can't say but make sense if it is .  which i hope it is or my home mining days are over once my S3 and S5 or any more S5 i may buy are no longer use full and no miner is to be had .


Sense they have listed  the S7 as  using  230 watts per th makes me think or feel positive thought it will start at 2.2/3 th with the same compact size or smaller then the S3 and S5 due to how the S5 + no longer has the really big heat sinks with the same price or cheaper then the S3 or S5 with cheaper shipping , to get more into the mining game .  . selling in lots of so many or just one per order you make more any way and if any one can afford it they make more at least that's how most business sells work if they support the little guy still.


SO that's my hoping, i really enjoy doing it and the fun Ive had learning it.

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But i'm expecting the S7 to be within the same form factor/heat dissipation of the S5 so i would be surprised if the watt consumption would be over 690w at the wall at full speed.

I sure hope you are correct. It's just a bit worrisome that Bitmain introduced the S5+ "monster mine" about the same time. I'd rather they didn't always think "bigger is better".

i hope so too, i want to run with 1 power supply.. not needing any server ones or wire in special 220v outlets.
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still want my 3kw 15th machine! i'd buy 3!

and make s7 backwards compatible in cooling and screw holes! need to upgrade my c1  Wink
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