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August 23, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
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They will be priced to roi in 250 days at ten cent power

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August 23, 2015, 04:54:18 PM
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They will be priced to roi in 250 days at ten cent power

most likely, but only if price stays stable.
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August 23, 2015, 05:44:05 PM
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I have mixed feelings, I'd love to see them launch a rack mount, self contained unit.
Although I have the power supplies and knowledge to build what i need, It's a pain in the ass and messy lol.

A plug and play S4 style unit would be awesome.
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August 23, 2015, 05:46:31 PM
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I have mixed feelings, I'd love to see them launch a rack mount, self contained unit.
Although I have the power supplies and knowledge to build what i need, It's a pain in the ass and messy lol.

A plug and play S4 style unit would be awesome.

Well its cheaper to plug your own PSU tho.

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August 23, 2015, 05:47:39 PM
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Thats true, or a drop in slot for provide your own psu, hah, but then they'd be out of stock everywhere.
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August 24, 2015, 01:30:52 AM
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This would be cool as a stick miner!
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August 24, 2015, 02:01:09 AM
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents
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August 24, 2015, 02:07:03 AM
Last edit: August 24, 2015, 02:19:38 AM by Biodom
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents

nah, what you described is more like S8 or S7+

S7: 2300-2700 TH, 505-595W in a small form factor. It is much easier to dissipate that much heat vs 1500W

however, it would throw a wrench into plans of many if it would require three separate PCIe connectors with each more than 200W as per S5+ design.
It would mean that Corsair 750 workhorse is a no go.
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August 24, 2015, 02:12:56 AM
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents

nah, what you described is more like S8

S7: 2300-2400 TH, 505-550W

... but the $975 price point might be right Smiley

Let's be realistic here, Bitmain is not going to sell a twice-as-efficient miner for LESS per TH/s than the S5. So if the S5 is now $380 (on Hashnest) that's $330 per TH/s. It's likely the S7 would be around $400-500 per TH/s, depending on the BTC exchange rate.
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August 24, 2015, 02:16:20 AM
Last edit: August 24, 2015, 02:33:50 AM by Biodom
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents

nah, what you described is more like S8

S7: 2300-2400 TH, 505-550W

... but the $975 price point might be right Smiley

Let's be realistic here, Bitmain is not going to sell a twice-as-efficient miner for LESS per TH/s than the S5. So if the S5 is now $380 (on Hashnest) that's $330 per TH/s. It's likely the S7 would be around $400-500 per TH/s, depending on the BTC exchange rate.

I think that they will aim at $700 or about as it shows 280 days until profitability at 600w, 2400Gh and $0.1/kwh electricity cost at current btc prices.
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August 24, 2015, 03:23:20 AM
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Just curious, but why are we Skipping S6?

Anyone know?? I see now, the number corresponds to the form factor.

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I bet its similar in design to the s5+ single unit and has 3 boards, 90 chips total, at 32.5 ghs thats 2,950 gh X .23 = @ just under 700 watts, you could still power 2 off of an APW3-12-1600.

Price will likely be between 1,050 and 1,200 competitive with SFARDS.

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August 24, 2015, 03:28:49 AM
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Just curious, but why are we Skipping S6?

Anyone know??
Because of Batman?
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August 24, 2015, 04:13:11 AM
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Just curious, but why are we Skipping S6?

Anyone know??
Because of Batman?

Not sure Dogie let us know long ago that we were going to do it.  (I could be wrong but I think he was first).   But it seems to be true and no one really knows when S7 will be released yet.

But the S5+ could have easily had a S6 sticker slapped on it.  But they choose to do the plus model instead.
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August 24, 2015, 04:26:20 AM
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I believe it will be powered by their new psu and will run around 6 Th at 1400w.  If not the S7 the S7+ or S8.  But eventually we will see another rack mount monstrosity.   Roll Eyes
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August 24, 2015, 06:38:53 AM
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I believe it will be powered by their new psu and will run around 6 Th at 1400w.  If not the S7 the S7+ or S8.  But eventually we will see another rack mount monstrosity.   Roll Eyes

Their new PSU? Are you referring to their 205V+ PSU? I don't see it being sold along with the S7. A tons of people can't use 240V PSU's. But if they came with some 115-240PSU like the S4, that would be nice. Of course assuming the PSU isint as terribad as the actual one from the S4.


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August 24, 2015, 06:46:20 AM
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S7: 3 blades x 350w each with 2 pci-e in each blade, total 1050w and a total of 4.60 Th/s, i think that's will be the new Bitmain's standard...

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August 24, 2015, 06:51:29 AM
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S7: 3 blades x 350w each with 2 pci-e in each blade, total 1050w and a total of 4.60 Th/s, i think that's will be the new Bitmain's standard...

Thats a pretty big unit, i'm thinking they will keep it under 690 watt as its the optimal power factor to fit on breakers. Ex; 115V*15A*0.8/2
It would fit nicely all the way from 115V to 240V grids.

Personally i'm hoping for Wifi support again. It really help the wire mess ^_^".


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August 24, 2015, 08:11:52 AM
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The price will be above 1000 usd

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August 24, 2015, 09:29:06 AM
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Just curious, but why are we Skipping S6?

Anyone know??
Because of Batman?

Not sure Dogie let us know long ago that we were going to do it.  (I could be wrong but I think he was first).   But it seems to be true and no one really knows when S7 will be released yet.

But the S5+ could have easily had a S6 sticker slapped on it.  But they choose to do the plus model instead.

S4+ was what would have fit into the S6 nomenclature but it was only a small performance increase, so they put a + on the end instead.

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I hope they don't waste the money on wifi. Not all that many folks that use it especially in a mining situation, as it's nowhere near as reliable as standard Ethernet (it's also slow, but that's not really a factor for a miner due to the low needed datarate).

 I doubt they'll go 3 boards or the 800+ watts a 3 board unit would need, that would have broken THEIR existing Hashnest setup and you can't reasonably run 2 such machines from those 1600 Watt PS they also sell and are likely using on their own farm hardware.
 For similar reasons *AND* lack of board space, I dount they'll put 3 strings on one board with the BM1385 - 54 chips would be a NIGHTMARE to keep the corner chips cool on their current board form factor.

 Price above $1000 is unlikely unless bitcoin pricing JUMPS soon.


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I believe it will be powered by their new psu and will run around 6 Th at 1400w.  If not the S7 the S7+ or S8.


 S7+/S8 (whichever they decide to go with for a "BIG" unit) will be a lot more TH - I'd guess ballpark 10.5 TH at 2400 watt ballpark in a S5+ form factor. It wouldn't make sense for their "new big miner" when they come up with it to be lower TH than the S5+


 S4+ would NOT have fit as an S6 - it was the BM1382 NOT the BM1384. S6 would have fit the S5+, though they may have decided that since it's not specifically a rack mount unit it wasn't really fitting for the S6 name.

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