[Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d

[notlist3d]

I wonder if you could zip tie two of the 2880w PSU's on each side of the miner to make it more tidy and neat.. seems like they can sit on their side right up against the s5+ side and if theres a way to affix them like that would be a good solution to loose psu's all over the place

I don't have the 2880 watt PSU.   So I cannot say on that one.  But on the Bitmain 1600 it is pretty small considering everything I'm sure it could be ziptied or fixed to something.   

Just with my current setup sitting on same shelf was my best option.  If i fixed it above it would be right under an S4.   With sitting beside for me they have a lot of room around the PSU.

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[OgNasty]

Have you done any efficiency testing at different frequencies?

[notlist3d]

Have you done any efficiency testing at different frequencies?

I have not.  It seems to be Bitmain is getting more strict on their warranty.   I decided I will wait the 90 day's most likely until I do.

Or if next gen comes out and I need to underclock.   

[Finksy]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

[notlist3d]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

[crazyearner]

Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

[notlist3d]

Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

I can tell it's pulling 15 amps worth of electricity from my PDU which put's it around spec area.   My standard kill-a-watt does not have the same plug as I used on the 240.   So cant use it.

I'm hoping in next couple of day's I can try to get PDU's networking to work and hopefully it tells a little more details.  But again it was second hand through ebay and I'm not sure the network plug works on it the PDU from initial test.

I have around 11k watts running in new mining area after this.  And a tad in old area.    But this miner will use every bit of the power the say on specs.  Bitmain say's you need 16 amp to run miner and I would agree with this.  You could do it from two 110's but I went with 240 volt 30 amp which I am very happy with currently.   Needless to say I think my electricity company loves me.

[crazyearner]

Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

I can tell it's pulling 15 amps worth of electricity from my PDU which put's it around spec area.   My standard kill-a-watt does not have the same plug as I used on the 240.   So cant use it.

I'm hoping in next couple of day's I can try to get PDU's networking to work and hopefully it tells a little more details.  But again it was second hand through ebay and I'm not sure the network plug works on it the PDU from initial test.

I have around 11k watts running in new mining area after this.  And a tad in old area.    But this miner will use every bit of the power the say on specs.  Bitmain say you need 16 amp to run miner and I would agree with this.  You could do it from two 110's but I went with 240 volt 30 amp which I am very happy with currently.   Needless to say I think my electricity company loves me.

wow at 11k of energy being used and indeed no doubt your energy company is loving you no doubt about that. Hat to see your energy bills at the end of the year what put into it. Just hope you got a good rate off them and are succeeding in paying energy and making some coin at the end of the day too. Would love to have more equipment but stopped mining since the days of S1 and gave up. Maybe if the new miners such as the S5+ come down in price and BTC price go up ill be in with a chance at owning one. Till that happens am sticking to trading or buying coins and maybe look into cloud mining in the future. Loving the work put into what your doing sure does give everyone an insight as to what look like and whats what with them

[notlist3d]

Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

I can tell it's pulling 15 amps worth of electricity from my PDU which put's it around spec area.   My standard kill-a-watt does not have the same plug as I used on the 240.   So cant use it.

I'm hoping in next couple of day's I can try to get PDU's networking to work and hopefully it tells a little more details.  But again it was second hand through ebay and I'm not sure the network plug works on it the PDU from initial test.

I have around 11k watts running in new mining area after this.  And a tad in old area.    But this miner will use every bit of the power the say on specs.  Bitmain say you need 16 amp to run miner and I would agree with this.  You could do it from two 110's but I went with 240 volt 30 amp which I am very happy with currently.   Needless to say I think my electricity company loves me.

wow at 11k of energy being used and indeed no doubt your energy company is loving you no doubt about that. Hat to see your energy bills at the end of the year what put into it. Just hope you got a good rate off them and are succeeding in paying energy and making some coin at the end of the day too. Would love to have more equipment but stopped mining since the days of S1 and gave up. Maybe if the new miners such as the S5+ come down in price and BTC price go up ill be in with a chance at owning one. Till that happens am sticking to trading or buying coins and maybe look into cloud mining in the future. Loving the work put into what your doing sure does give everyone an insight as to what look like and whats what with them

Thank you for the kind words.  I enjoy tinkering with electronics and computers.  And really enjoy documenting and playing with miners.

Even with one miner down currently I'm hitting around 13.4K total between two areas.  Eventually I will part with some of them and sell a few miners, but I have not reached that point yet.   I am lucky that I live on a true farm (like crop and cattle) and power company is use to seeing jumps.   

Went out and checked it is a mild day around 80 F.   The S5+ is still doing a much better job getting rid of heat then the regular S5.  So I'm calling it a sucess on dealing with heat compared to regular S5 since it has ran for around 20 hours at this point.  As far as noise my mining area is very noisy so not a issue for me.  But it is loud enough you would not want to put it in an area you want quiet.

[dogie]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

[notlist3d]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

[philipma1957]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

down the road you can try a 10 volt freq 200 underclock.

I will help you get to 10 volts to do it.

[notlist3d]

I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

down the road you can try a 10 volt freq 200 underclock.

I will help you get to 10 volts to do it.

Thank you!  Down the road I do plan on playing with it more.  But with paper/email it really seems bitmain is getting harder on warranty.  So I'm going to ride out the warranty in default specs.

The one thing I am surprised just going over my notes is that they did not sell a 1 module unit.   Each module is 100 percent the same.  The only difference is one of the three had the controller put on it.  So they easily could have don't like a S5+ one module, or three module with no additional cost other then more controller boards.

[philipma1957]

I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.

[alh]

I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.

I'll bet this was a "Marketing decision" and not a technical one. Who knows, after they have gotten all the folks that will pay for a 3-module version, they could start marketing a 1-module version . Of course the BM1385 and S7 might render that possibility moot. Just speculation on my part.

[dogie]

I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.

I'll bet this was a "Marketing decision" and not a technical one. Who knows, after they have gotten all the folks that will pay for a 3-module version, they could start marketing a 1-module version . Of course the BM1385 and S7 might render that possibility moot. Just speculation on my part.

If marketing includes market appetite then probably yeah. People that complain about a 10btc S5+ will complain harder about a 4btc S5++.

[Finksy]

Also put yourself in Bitmain's shoes. If you could sell (and in turn ship) 1000 units vs 3000 units at roughly the same margins, and you firmly believed that you would sell out either way, you choose the one with less logistics involved. It's hard to call any of their decisions poorly made when they sell out of pretty much everything they make, even if those decisions aren't 100% to our liking.

[notlist3d]

Also put yourself in Bitmain's shoes. If you could sell (and in turn ship) 1000 units vs 3000 units at roughly the same margins, and you firmly believed that you would sell out either way, you choose the one with less logistics involved. It's hard to call any of their decisions poorly made when they sell out of pretty much everything they make, even if those decisions aren't 100% to our liking.

I don't disagree it was a business decision.  They knew 3 worked good and in a very surprisingly small box approx 3 S5's.   And it allowed them to use a LOT of chips.

We don't know for sure this is likely the only production run of this mine, unless they have time to squeeze more before next gen.   But I hope next gen what ever it is has more design like the S5+ then the S5.  The metal casing and push/pull fans honestly are worth the extra cost.   

The miner has ran for over a day and ran perfect so far.

[Badr]

that's really nice review of S5+,
i'm expecting it by next Sunday and looking forward to ask you a few questions in order to make sure that i'm on the right track.

- do i need to make any hardware changes on it before i startup the miner ?
- what's the best option for the pool? setup 3 pools or choose the best one ( which is effective ?)
- do you think that S5+ is the best miner to start a mining farm or should i use S5 as a stable tested miner ?

Thanks.

[notlist3d]

that's really nice review of S5+,
i'm expecting it by next Sunday and looking forward to ask you a few questions in order to make sure that i'm on the right track.

- do i need to make any hardware changes on it before i startup the miner ?
- what's the best option for the pool? setup 3 pools or choose the best one ( which is effective ?)
- do you think that S5+ is the best miner to start a mining farm or should i use S5 as a stable tested miner ?

Thanks.

As far as hardware changes it depends on your setup.  You will need the proper amount of electricity to run it (16 Amps).  I personally did this with a 240 30 amp breaker connected to a PDU and then the recommended bitmain server PSU's being used.

All depends it is honestly personal preference.  Some will say support one of the smaller pools.  I personally have antpool as my main as PPS is lower rate then f2 pool.    But some like to miner other way's where luck has a factor in it.  So not really a wrong pool in most cases just a personal preference.

The S5+ is a great miner as far as small footprint and a lot of power it is also more efficient the the regular S5.  I would say it is easy to install if you have the electricity planned out.  Speaking as far as install it's same general GUI on S5+ or S5.  Either way as far as miner settings its really the same on setup from GUI.   Biggest difference is knowing your electricity setup, if you can do this yes very good for any one.