Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

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To anticipate a more rapid decline in performance, De Rossi dismissal is considered appropriate, although it will pose other risks. New manager Ivan Juric will clearly need time to adapt to implement his strategy, as will some players who are already comfortable with the pattern that was built previously. This will certainly be a challenge for the new manager, how he will work around the current difficult situation and then change it.

Every change of coach will definitely require a good adaptation for the coach and the players. And this will not be easy. At least because the season has started, we can see how the next few months will be, whether there will be any changes from AS Roma or not. Because after all, in the past, de Rossi was initially only contracted for a few months. And this time, Ivan Juric was contracted for this season. Their first match was against Udinese, the current leader of the standings. This is not good enough for Ivan Juric's start. But if they can win or at least draw, then this will be a good start for Ivan Juric to start his career at AS Roma.


Source: Atalanta’s Matteo Retegui apologises for penalty miss against Arsenal

Oh yes, from the 5 Serie A representative clubs, 1 lost (AC Milan), 1 won (Juventus), and 3 drew. And the latest is Atalanta's quite good in holding Arsenal , a top club from EPL, to a draw. But, a fact, Atalanta had at least 2 crucial conditions to score a goal, but it failed. especially when Matteo Retegui missed the penalty kick.

Atalanta, the Serie A representative who was very powerful in last night's match against the EPL representative, but unfortunately the goal that could be said to be the victory failed to be executed properly by the Atalanta players which made the score end with a score of 0-0. This shows that Gesperini is very good at processing young players and making them stronger than I thought, in the first half they played equally getting opportunities but advancing to the second half Atalanta dominated the match quite a bit but the opportunities they got could still be blocked by Raya as Arsenal's goalkeeper.

This draw is of course good for Atalanta in terms of their development, in my opinion here it can be seen that they are quite strong when compared to AC Milan, and most likely Atalanta will be a mediocre team in the Champions League which is currently shining this season.

[tusandii]

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.

Roma sacking De Rossi after just four games shows how serious they're ready for this season. He hasn't done well and deserved to leave the club. He can't take over a club and not give them good results when it was bad results that made the last manager to get sacked. Drawing against Genoa was his last game and he didn't win that one. Those individuals saying he should have been given some time, why waste the manager time when he'll still be sacked later. It's better he gets sacked early so the team can get a new manager that they can work well with the rest team for the rest of the season and start to get results before it gets too late to catch up with other teams.

Well I agree with you maybe Roma's decision was too hasty in firing De Rossi but I think it was the right decision because this is just the beginning of the season and the new manager will take over to fix Roma's wrong performance rather than waiting too long if the results do not improve Roma will be even more depressed and it will be even more difficult for the new coach to handle it so the management is just trying the best for their team I'm sure they have considered carefully before giving De Rossi a chance this season because the results are not as they want they don't want to waste a lot of time.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I would say the main reason Milan lost was their poor match strategy. Milan took the lead after only 3 minutes in this match. And after taking the lead, Milan started playing in a completely defensive strategy. Milan probably thought that they would be able to resist the Liverpool team if they played a defensive strategy. But after Milan played a defensive strategy, naturally Liverpool increased their attacking speed. And before the end of the first half, the Liverpool team got a lead of 2-1.

The match would have been more competitive had Milan not played defensively. Milan's squad was also strong. In this match we could see goals from both teams. But because of Milan's defensive strategy, Liverpool's players got a chance to dominate the match. And this is why AC Milan lost the match.

That is clear because the defeat was caused by the team's lack of ability in dealing with the opponent's strategy so that even though they were ahead first they would still lose. But what is most highlighted is how the defense line became so weak and they were unable to keep up. Playing defensively against an aggressive team will be difficult because Milan gives Liverpool space to attack.

When Milan plays more defensively, it will make Liverpool more free to hold the ball so that Milan is made so troubled. If Milan plays openly, the match will be more interesting and Milan can also make Liverpool's defense a little troubled in dealing with their attacks.

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Cagliari vs Empoli

Cagliari starting lineup:
Scuffet; Zappa, Mina, Luperto; Zortea, Marin, Deiola, Augello; Gaetano, Luvumbo; Piccoli

Empoli starting lineup:
Vasquez; Goglichidze, Ismajli, Viti; Gyasi, Henderson, Grassi, Pezzella; Maleh, Esposito; Colombo

Compared to last season certainly Empoli performance is very impressive because Empoli still able to managed their unbeated records until week 4 and they also has good progress because Empoli can beat AS Roma and the latest is Empoli can able to playing draw from strong team Juventus so i am sure Empoli players in the good of motivation to facing this match

For Cagliari their performance is not so different just like last season they even still unable to win from 4 latest matches in Serie A so that's why i highly doubt they can able to gets their first winning in Serie A today because just like i said above Empoli condition is more good than them but Cagliari also not too weak because in the last 5 meeting from Empoli they can gets 3 draw and for this match too there is possibility will ended to draw again and the odds for draw is quite high to bets @3.30

[Sg4j1n3ll0]

I would say the main reason Milan lost was their poor match strategy. Milan took the lead after only 3 minutes in this match. And after taking the lead, Milan started playing in a completely defensive strategy. Milan probably thought that they would be able to resist the Liverpool team if they played a defensive strategy. But after Milan played a defensive strategy, naturally Liverpool increased their attacking speed. And before the end of the first half, the Liverpool team got a lead of 2-1.

The match would have been more competitive had Milan not played defensively. Milan's squad was also strong. In this match we could see goals from both teams. But because of Milan's defensive strategy, Liverpool's players got a chance to dominate the match. And this is why AC Milan lost the match.

That is clear because the defeat was caused by the team's lack of ability in dealing with the opponent's strategy so that even though they were ahead first they would still lose. But what is most highlighted is how the defense line became so weak and they were unable to keep up. Playing defensively against an aggressive team will be difficult because Milan gives Liverpool space to attack.

When Milan plays more defensively, it will make Liverpool more free to hold the ball so that Milan is made so troubled. If Milan plays openly, the match will be more interesting and Milan can also make Liverpool's defense a little troubled in dealing with their attacks.

I completely agree with both of you. Playing defensively after taking the lead so early in the match was a strategic blunder. It allowed Liverpool to control the pace of the game, and put immense pressure on Milan's defense. The inability of AC Milan to adapt their strategy mid-game proved crucial and led to their defeat. They should have tried to apply pressure on Liverpool instead of hoping to retain a slim lead. The key to victory in football is not only about taking an early lead, but also how you react and adapt once that lead is achieved.

[barisbilgili]

That is clear because the defeat was caused by the team's lack of ability in dealing with the opponent's strategy so that even though they were ahead first they would still lose. But what is most highlighted is how the defense line became so weak and they were unable to keep up. Playing defensively against an aggressive team will be difficult because Milan gives Liverpool space to attack.

When Milan plays more defensively, it will make Liverpool more free to hold the ball so that Milan is made so troubled. If Milan plays openly, the match will be more interesting and Milan can also make Liverpool's defense a little troubled in dealing with their attacks.

Fatigue is not an excuse, basically Milan's performance is very bad even though they were ahead first but Liverpool was able to turn things around and overall AC Milan's performance at the beginning of this season has not found its top performance and this is still a job for their new coach.

Paulo Fonseca still needs time to adapt to be able to improve the quality of AC Milan's performance, we can't just look at a few matches but overall AC Milan's performance at the beginning of this season is indeed very bad and their defeat against Liverpool I think is quite reasonable.

[Velvet78]

Now it is time to go back to the Serie A games. Checking this week's games, it looks like we are going to have lots of fun in the league. 

The most attention getting ones are obviously Juventus - Napoli and Inter - Milan. I won't talk about the latter very much. Because I think the possible result is quite clear. Milan have started the season really poorly. The Venezia win seemed like some hope but they were destroyed by Liverpool at San Siro in the Champions League later on. Just as Inter have been dominant in head-to-heads recently, I expect another win against Milan. 



But when it comes to the Juventus - Napoli one, it is tough to predict... Both sides started strong. Juventus didn't even concede a single goal in 4 games so far. I think they won't lose. And maybe I might give under 2.5 goals a chance.

Because there are so many games between them ending up with 2 goals the most in Turin. I don't like to bet on under but sometimes I give it a chance.

[Gallar]

There are still many improvements that Fonseca must make for AC Milan this season. Because he started the season badly in Serie A and also immediately suffered a crushing defeat in the UCL by Liverpool. It will really be quite a blow for AC Milan this season. I'm curious about Fonseca's fate there. Will AC Milan continue to give Fonseca the opportunity this season to continue coaching AC Milan? Or AC Milan will act quickly like AS Roma who have currently fired De Rossi. but we know that AC Milan is always patient enough to wait for the process from the coach they bring in. So Fonseca's dismissal may not be as quick as De Rossi's at AS Roma.

In the next match, Milan has a strong city opponent, namely Inter Milan. And I doubt that AC Milan will be able to win this match. I think AC Milan will suffer another defeat in the match against Inter Milan.

Milan's defeat against Liverpool in the UCL will certainly make Milan even more devastated. The reason is that so far Milan has had a very bad record in Serie A. So you can be sure that Fonseca as Milan coach will definitely come under quite heavy pressure from Milan fans and also his management. However, I am sure Milan will definitely not act rashly like Roma did with De Rossi. Because as you said, Milan is quite patient in every process carried out by the coaches it has. Because, several coaches who have coached Milan have proven to always last quite a long time. So I am sure that Fonseca will not be fired, even though for example this season Fonseca was unable to bring Milan to success.

And talking about Milan's match against Inter, it is clear that Milan will definitely have difficulty keeping up with Inter if you look at Milan's current performance. So the best possibility that Milan can achieve in this match is probably a draw. Because if you look at Inter's performance this time it could be said to be better than Milan. So for this match I will bet on Inter, because Inter definitely has a bigger chance of winning than Milan. Because if you look at the head to head record between Milan and Inter, the results are clear that Inter is far superior to Milan. Because of the 5 meetings that have taken place between Milan and Inter, the result is that Inter won 5 those matches. So I have no hesitation in betting on Milan in this match.

[armanda90]

Actually, I also hope that De Rossi can stay at AS Roma longer. Because currently he doesn't have much time to build the AS Roma squad, which has just started this season. Even though the results are quite bad, it is still too early for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. Because changing coaches again at the start of the season may not necessarily make their team even better. Because Roma's new coach will definitely have to make some adjustments and re-adapt to the team and it will take time for Roma to really get maximum performance.

AS Roma's new coach is currently Ivan Juric. Ivan Juric will be AS Roma coach until the end of this season. Which means AS Roma is also not sure whether to trust this coach or not.

Its difficult waiting for any manager existing for longer time with AS Roma because their management have huge pressure bring Roma to the top position standings although can't balance yet with top players for signing every window transfer opening. Since sacking Jose Mourinho from his position although success winning UEFA Conference League but second season Roma have bad start in domestic league and make his position replacing by Daniele De Rossi.

The management of Roma have appointed Ivan Juric as new manager but he hadn't good reputation because most his career with mediocre teams than become top manager teams. I doubt will the same happening for Ivan Juric if Roma get underperformance and his position sack by management before end this season because Roma contract him one season only.

[Xcode7]

I completely agree with both of you. Playing defensively after taking the lead so early in the match was a strategic blunder. It allowed Liverpool to control the pace of the game, and put immense pressure on Milan's defense. The inability of AC Milan to adapt their strategy mid-game proved crucial and led to their defeat. They should have tried to apply pressure on Liverpool instead of hoping to retain a slim lead. The key to victory in football is not only about taking an early lead, but also how you react and adapt once that lead is achieved.

The tactics of Paulo Fonseca are indeed quite bad, when they were already ahead by 1 goal at the beginning of the match, AC Milan's game was not so calm and I even saw that their team's game was not well organized in all lines so that Liverpool was able to control the match so that they were able to turn things around.
Now the one responsible is Paulo Fonseca, he still has not been able to improve the performance of the AC Milan team and indeed not only when playing against Liverpool, the AC Milan team played badly but in the Serie A match, AC Milan's performance is still quite bad now.

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But when it comes to the Juventus - Napoli one, it is tough to predict... Both sides started strong. Juventus didn't even concede a single goal in 4 games so far. I think they won't lose. And maybe I might give under 2.5 goals a chance.

Are you going to bet under 2.5 on Juventus win or bet on the overall total? If you bet on under 2.5 on Juventus win, you will definitely get very small odds around @1.12. But if you bet on asian total under 2.5, you still get pretty big odds.

IMO, the Juventus vs Napoli match is actually a bit difficult to predict because Juventus attack line is a bit weak and only relies on a strong defense. On the one hand, Napoli defense and attack line look inconsistent. Maybe I will take a big risk betting on over 2.5 to get odds @2.18

[Altryist]

The tactics of Paulo Fonseca are indeed quite bad, when they were already ahead by 1 goal at the beginning of the match, AC Milan's game was not so calm and I even saw that their team's game was not well organized in all lines so that Liverpool was able to control the match so that they were able to turn things around.
Now the one responsible is Paulo Fonseca, he still has not been able to improve the performance of the AC Milan team and indeed not only when playing against Liverpool, the AC Milan team played badly but in the Serie A match, AC Milan's performance is still quite bad now.

After Milan scored an early goal they decided that the best solution would be to try to hold on to the score, but Liverpool started to apply pressure and Milan couldn't even get away from their goal for long. Liverpool's superiority was too significant, and I don't want to rush to conclusions, but Milan's next match will be with Inter, in which they may well end up without points again, and their next match in the Champions League will be away from Bayer, if these matches turn out to be similarly disastrous for them, then everything may end badly for Fonseca.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

The first match of this week in the Italian Serie A League will be played between Cagliari and Empoli. Cagliari are one of the weakest teams in the league. They are yet to win this season. At home they drew with Roma and Como. But they are bad when it comes to scoring. On the other hand, Empoli have had a great start to the new season. Last season they stayed in the league with a win in the last game. This season they have turned into a better team. I see Empoli as the favorites in this match. There could be a surprise result. But Empoli will win this match. The odds for Empoli to win are also good. It's worth the risk.

[Frankolala]

The tactics of Paulo Fonseca are indeed quite bad, when they were already ahead by 1 goal at the beginning of the match, AC Milan's game was not so calm and I even saw that their team's game was not well organized in all lines so that Liverpool was able to control the match so that they were able to turn things around.
Now the one responsible is Paulo Fonseca, he still has not been able to improve the performance of the AC Milan team and indeed not only when playing against Liverpool, the AC Milan team played badly but in the Serie A match, AC Milan's performance is still quite bad now.

After Milan scored an early goal they decided that the best solution would be to try to hold on to the score, but Liverpool started to apply pressure and Milan couldn't even get away from their goal for long. Liverpool's superiority was too significant, and I don't want to rush to conclusions, but Milan's next match will be with Inter, in which they may well end up without points again, and their next match in the Champions League will be away from Bayer, if these matches turn out to be similarly disastrous for them, then everything may end badly for Fonseca.

Will I say that Milan is in their doom days if they don't fire Fonseca because I don't see any improvement from the club since they lack having a good and experienced coach. Milan wasn't like this last season and I'm wondering why the high level of poor performance this season to the point that they find it difficult to win matches.

Imagine Milan does not have hope of survival in tgeir UCL group because they lack creativity and good strategy. They scored first before Liverpool but Liverpool was able to make a come back and scored three goals from one goal down. It is a shame on Fonseca because I know that the players are very good but lack someone to manage them and bring out the best in them.

[Arenga pinnata]

Well I agree with you maybe Roma's decision was too hasty in firing De Rossi but I think it was the right decision because this is just the beginning of the season and the new manager will take over to fix Roma's wrong performance rather than waiting too long if the results do not improve Roma will be even more depressed and it will be even more difficult for the new coach to handle it so the management is just trying the best for their team I'm sure they have considered carefully before giving De Rossi a chance this season because the results are not as they want they don't want to waste a lot of time.

Maybe one of the reasons they were in a hurry to fire De Rossi was this. Namely they don't want to waste more time. Because it looks like Roma is very ambitious to get good results this season too. And Roma also seems to have made quite thorough preparations before firing De Rossi. Because after a while they fired De Rossi and it turned out they immediately made an agreement with their new coach, Ivan Juric. Which indicates that Roma already had plans to fire De Rossi even earlier. but the problem is that Roma seems to be biding their time until they are close to making a deal with Ivan Juric.

It's just that the problem here is that Roma also took a big risk by replacing De Rossi with Ivan Juric. Because we also never know whether Ivan Juric will be able to take Roma in a better direction. Or it could actually make Rome worse. But let's just see how it turns out. And maybe Ivan Juric's debut as Roma's new coach will take place this week against Udinese.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It is likely that the next coach to be sacked in Serie A is fonsesca and it seems inevitable after Milan failure in the Champions League match yesterday.

Well, based on these events, I don't know what to tell you, because obviously things are different when we deal with them very externally. The teams make their decisions, and if they are now going to choose to fire their coach and find others, for me this should have been done before the start of Serie A. Serie A always gives something to talk about and I think that is something very unpleasant, because now that implies a period of adaptation for both players and coaches, and that can obviously affect the performance of the teams, and this causes the level to drop and they lose points, of course that is my point of view.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Milan boss Paulo Fonseca: “Who did you coach?”

According to the details revealed by La Gazzetta dello Sport via Milan News, Milan’s club advisor Zlatan Ibrahimovic has shared a lukewarm relationship with new head coach Paulo Fonseca since the Portuguese manager’s appointment was confirmed.

The Swedish veteran questioned Fonseca’s achievements in the coaching sphere and asked him: “Who did you coach?”. This remark sparked an internal controversy amongst the Rossoneri headquarters and the slow start to the new season further deteriorated the relationship between the two.

Source:https://www.getfootballnewsitaly.com/2024/zlatan-ibrahimovic-to-milan-boss-paulo-fonseca-who-did-you-coach/

The fact that someone as iconic as Zlatan says this is quite Strong , Fonseca is a guy who must have a great armor to be Criticized so much.

[$anounimus$]

Will I say that Milan is in their doom days if they don't fire Fonseca because I don't see any improvement from the club since they lack having a good and experienced coach. Milan wasn't like this last season and I'm wondering why the high level of poor performance this season to the point that they find it difficult to win matches.

Imagine Milan does not have hope of survival in tgeir UCL group because they lack creativity and good strategy. They scored first before Liverpool but Liverpool was able to make a come back and scored three goals from one goal down. It is a shame on Fonseca because I know that the players are very good but lack someone to manage them and bring out the best in them.

Maybe Fonseca has been given an ultimatum and only given a chance in a few more matches. I am not sure if Milan will return to a better path, even I see the slump will get worse. The next match is against Inter and I think it is a very tough opponent for Milan, most likely the Rossoneri will lose points again making it difficult for them to compete for the top of the standings. In the last four matches Milan has only been able to collect one win, two draws and one loss and that is not an achievement for a team like Milan.

[Lidger]

Before the start of the season, we all thought that Inter Milan would be at the top of the points table from the beginning, but the team that was not discussed is occupying the number one position of the points table at the beginning of the season.  

We haven't seen Udinese perform very well all other seasons so naturally we don't have much room to discuss this team. It is easy to hold on to the top position of the points table by performing well in a few matches at the beginning of the season but it is very difficult to maintain the consistency of this performance. In the end it looks like Inter Milan will be champions of the Italian league again this season like last season.

[Arenga pinnata]

Before the start of the season, we all thought that Inter Milan would be at the top of the points table from the beginning, but the team that was not discussed is occupying the number one position of the points table at the beginning of the season.  

We haven't seen Udinese perform very well all other seasons so naturally we don't have much room to discuss this team. It is easy to hold on to the top position of the points table by performing well in a few matches at the beginning of the season but it is very difficult to maintain the consistency of this performance. In the end it looks like Inter Milan will be champions of the Italian league again this season like last season.

Indeed, unexpectedly, Udinese is still unbeaten in Serie A. And Udinese has a record of 3 wins and 1 draw which makes them have 10 points which makes them at the top of the Serie A standings at the moment. But the most difficult challenge is actually maintaining consistency in the results of the matches they will play throughout this season. because one defeat will cause Udinese to be thrown straight to 4th or 5th place. So at the start of the season no one is completely safe at the top. Because changes will continue to occur. But it would be very surprising if Udinese continued to be at the top of the standings by continuing to win every match they faced. This will immediately remind us of Napoli who have also done this.

[X-ray]

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.

Roma sacking De Rossi after just four games shows how serious they're ready for this season. He hasn't done well and deserved to leave the club. He can't take over a club and not give them good results when it was bad results that made the last manager to get sacked. Drawing against Genoa was his last game and he didn't win that one. Those individuals saying he should have been given some time, why waste the manager time when he'll still be sacked later. It's better he gets sacked early so the team can get a new manager that they can work well with the rest team for the rest of the season and start to get results before it gets too late to catch up with other teams.

The decision to sack Rossi shows that Roma is not a serious club. They renewed his contract 6 months ago. They spent over a hundred million to build his team in the last transfer window. They sacked him after a few losses. Then they got a middle-tier coach (which is a downgrade) to replace him. It's no way for them to be called a serious club.

Roma should have judged Rossi's performance at season's end. Sacking him now proves this club is terrible.