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June 27, 2021, 11:58:37 PM
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the Bundesliga really lacks leadership diversity. Bayern is of course a cult club, but I do not understand what is the reason that they have won the national cup for many years in a row. After all, the financial component between Bavaria and Leipzig / Borussia is only 200 million, (not to mention the fact that on average Bayern players are two years older than the players of the above mentioned clubs).
The reality is that when a team has money, and makes good financial decisions, that usually ends up with them making even more money. Bayern did exactly that, look at Barcelona for example, a decade ago Barcelona was the most feared team and they once won sextupe, that is 6 cups in a season, nobody I can remember did that anytime recently, league, national cup, national super cup, champions league, uefa super cup and the worldwide thing cup, they won it all.
Look at how they are financially, they are nowhere near where they suppose to be, why? Because they made horrible financial decisions that led them here. Which is why I keep saying that we should not be looking into Bayern as just a good club or a cult, we should look at them as how they managed to keep that financial flow going for so long because that is the hard part that other teams fail at.
Bayern is famous not only for the ability to spend money correctly, but also for correctly eliminating Bundesliga competitors by buying their leaders Grin However, there is no denying that the club's structure works like clockwork and the money earned really brings even more money. Another question is that when you operate with large amounts, the price of mistakes increases and no club is immune from this, which we are seeing at the moment, including the example of Barcelona. It's just that the situation with the pandemic played the role of a perfect storm, which exposed the problems of those clubs that drove them deep away from the eyes of outsiders at normal times.
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The reality is that when a team has money, and makes good financial decisions, that usually ends up with them making even more money. Bayern did exactly that, look at Barcelona for example, a decade ago Barcelona was the most feared team and they once won sextupe, that is 6 cups in a season, nobody I can remember did that anytime recently, league, national cup, national super cup, champions league, uefa super cup and the worldwide thing cup, they won it all.
Look at how they are financially, they are nowhere near where they suppose to be, why? Because they made horrible financial decisions that led them here. Which is why I keep saying that we should not be looking into Bayern as just a good club or a cult, we should look at them as how they managed to keep that financial flow going for so long because that is the hard part that other teams fail at.
Bayern is famous not only for the ability to spend money correctly, but also for correctly eliminating Bundesliga competitors by buying their leaders Grin However, there is no denying that the club's structure works like clockwork and the money earned really brings even more money. Another question is that when you operate with large amounts, the price of mistakes increases and no club is immune from this, which we are seeing at the moment, including the example of Barcelona. It's just that the situation with the pandemic played the role of a perfect storm, which exposed the problems of those clubs that drove them deep away from the eyes of outsiders at normal times.

I agree that Bayern's success in the Bundesliga is partly because every financial policy that Bayern has made is always right. This means
that a successful club does not only rely on star players and a lot of money, the most important thing is how to manage finances well.
One of the worst examples is what happened to Barcelona, how a team as big as Barcelona with a large income could experience
a financial crisis. But fortunately Bayern has always had good management, so financial management is very good, so there's no need
to experience what happened to Barcelona.

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June 28, 2021, 11:19:46 AM
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The reality is that when a team has money, and makes good financial decisions, that usually ends up with them making even more money. Bayern did exactly that, look at Barcelona for example, a decade ago Barcelona was the most feared team and they once won sextupe, that is 6 cups in a season, nobody I can remember did that anytime recently, league, national cup, national super cup, champions league, uefa super cup and the worldwide thing cup, they won it all.
Look at how they are financially, they are nowhere near where they suppose to be, why? Because they made horrible financial decisions that led them here. Which is why I keep saying that we should not be looking into Bayern as just a good club or a cult, we should look at them as how they managed to keep that financial flow going for so long because that is the hard part that other teams fail at.
Bayern is famous not only for the ability to spend money correctly, but also for correctly eliminating Bundesliga competitors by buying their leaders Grin However, there is no denying that the club's structure works like clockwork and the money earned really brings even more money. Another question is that when you operate with large amounts, the price of mistakes increases and no club is immune from this, which we are seeing at the moment, including the example of Barcelona. It's just that the situation with the pandemic played the role of a perfect storm, which exposed the problems of those clubs that drove them deep away from the eyes of outsiders at normal times.

I agree that Bayern's success in the Bundesliga is partly because every financial policy that Bayern has made is always right. This means
that a successful club does not only rely on star players and a lot of money, the most important thing is how to manage finances well.
One of the worst examples is what happened to Barcelona, how a team as big as Barcelona with a large income could experience
a financial crisis. But fortunately Bayern has always had good management, so financial management is very good, so there's no need
to experience what happened to Barcelona.

Bayern Munich's club management is very good. They know exactly how much money to spend in which place. Like PSG or Barcelona, they do not spend much money on certain players. Bayern Munich formed a stable team with low star players, coordinating well among all the players on the team. Which allows them to perform exceptionally well.

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June 28, 2021, 10:15:20 PM
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I do agree with all you guys said but that brings a bad football to the table, at least for me. I am not German so I am not fan of any specific team but when a team is champions for 100 years in a row that is just boring, we have seen Juventus streak ending this year, PSG streak ending as well, and I want to see Bayern streak ending as well. They can become champions right afterwards, 3-5 times a row again, but let us watch one season where Bayern becomes second or worse so that we can see another team becoming champions.

What is the fun in a team that just keeps winning every year? Why would I want to watch a league like that? There is really nothing entertaining about that. It is just my idea, some people like it when a team dominates a league and want to watch that as a whole dynasty thing which I understand as well but that is just not for me.

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June 30, 2021, 05:19:09 AM
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I do agree with all you guys said but that brings a bad football to the table, at least for me. I am not German so I am not fan of any specific team but when a team is champions for 100 years in a row that is just boring, we have seen Juventus streak ending this year, PSG streak ending as well, and I want to see Bayern streak ending as well. They can become champions right afterwards, 3-5 times a row again, but let us watch one season where Bayern becomes second or worse so that we can see another team becoming champions.
The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.

However the general things in Bundesliga are different than in Serie A, Lique I or Premier League. Bayern are too strong with their players and they have too dominant balance sheet that help them to buy any best player in Germany if they are interested in.

It does not happen in Premier League or Serie A when there are a few clubs in the championship competition.

You can compare Bundesliga with Lique I because they are dominated by only one team, Bayern in Bundesliga and PSG in Lique I. PSG lost the championship in last season but they will claim it back in a new season.

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June 30, 2021, 07:56:23 AM
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Bayern Munich's club management is very good. They know exactly how much money to spend in which place. Like PSG or Barcelona, they do not spend much money on certain players. Bayern Munich formed a stable team with low star players, coordinating well among all the players on the team. Which allows them to perform exceptionally well.

You are right. Clubs like Bayern Munich and Atalanta don’t spend too much money. But they form a stable team. They include medium quality players in their team. Yet at the end of the season their performances surprised everyone. We can look at the Lille team of Ligue 1 as an example. They lost to PSG and won the title.

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The schedule for the 2. Bundesliga war already published. The opening game will be held between Hamburger SC and Schalke 04. The second relegated team ,Werder Bremen, will play against Sportverein Hannover on Sunday. The first matchday is on 23 July.

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June 30, 2021, 12:39:13 PM
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The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.
When I spoke about my preferences, I only meant that the Bundesliga needed a shake-up ... I am absolutely sure that any hardcore fan would like Bayern to lose the lead for a while, just to spark the fan spark with renewed vigor. But as it was said above, it seems that the leadership of Bayern does not agree with this, since football is money, a lot of money.

I have heard some rumours like Dortmund want 170 million euros for Erling Haaland.
I think this is unlikely, since it cannot be that 1 player of the team would cost 30% of the entire transfer link of Borussia. But even so, if that happens, it will be their best deal, which will not only cover all their debts but will add fresh blood to the team.

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June 30, 2021, 12:59:22 PM
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The schedule for the 2. Bundesliga war already published. The opening game will be held between Hamburger SC and Schalke 04. The second relegated team ,Werder Bremen, will play against Sportverein Hannover on Sunday. The first matchday is on 23 July.
Well, hopefully Schalke can get a win in their first match but Hamburger SV is also not a team that can be underestimated, we can see last season that Hamburger SV can finish in 4th place and that can be a trigger to be better next season. But speaking of the schedule, in fact the Bundesliga schedule has also been published which will start in the middle of August and the first match will start between Monchengladbach - Bayern Munich.

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June 30, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
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The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.

However the general things in Bundesliga are different than in Serie A, Lique I or Premier League. Bayern are too strong with their players and they have too dominant balance sheet that help them to buy any best player in Germany if they are interested in.

It does not happen in Premier League or Serie A when there are a few clubs in the championship competition.

You can compare Bundesliga with Lique I because they are dominated by only one team, Bayern in Bundesliga and PSG in Lique I. PSG lost the championship in last season but they will claim it back in a new season.
PSG is one thing, I remember the days when Lyon actually dominated ligue 1 as well, it was really just one team dominating to other team dominating. However Bundesliga is not looking like that, Bayern is just managed way too good and they do not even need some super wealthy person to buy amazing players, they can buy whoever they need all by themselves.

Long story short we are in a situation where Bayern needs to lose but they won't, so that means someone else needs to win. Red Bull is putting a ton of pressure in sports world, we all know their racing in formula one, and with Leipzig they have made that team into a giant, maybe soon they will actually spend some more and make that team win it, kinda like how it wasn't PSG that lost, it was Lille that won the league, we need something like that because if we keep waiting on Bayern to lose, that is not going to happen.

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July 01, 2021, 04:03:49 AM
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PSG is one thing, I remember the days when Lyon actually dominated ligue 1 as well, it was really just one team dominating to other team dominating.
The past domination of Lyon even bigger than PSG. They won 7 seasons from 2001 to 2008 that is a little shorter streak than Juventus in Serie A. Juniho is their captain in that period and Lyon in those golden time, are very competitive in Champions League.
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However Bundesliga is not looking like that, Bayern is just managed way too good and they do not even need some super wealthy person to buy amazing players, they can buy whoever they need all by themselves.

Long story short we are in a situation where Bayern needs to lose but they won't, so that means someone else needs to win. Red Bull is putting a ton of pressure in sports world, we all know their racing in formula one, and with Leipzig they have made that team into a giant, maybe soon they will actually spend some more and make that team win it.
Bayern will lose, in a very few seasons but they come back very quickly. It is not because they always have best players in Bundesliga. They lose in some seasons when they don't have best players in the league but quickly after that failed season, they buy best players from the championship opponent and come back shortly after 1 or 2 seasons.

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July 01, 2021, 12:10:00 PM
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I do agree with all you guys said but that brings a bad football to the table, at least for me. I am not German so I am not fan of any specific team but when a team is champions for 100 years in a row that is just boring, we have seen Juventus streak ending this year, PSG streak ending as well, and I want to see Bayern streak ending as well. They can become champions right afterwards, 3-5 times a row again, but let us watch one season where Bayern becomes second or worse so that we can see another team becoming champions.
The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.

However the general things in Bundesliga are different than in Serie A, Lique I or Premier League. Bayern are too strong with their players and they have too dominant balance sheet that help them to buy any best player in Germany if they are interested in.

It does not happen in Premier League or Serie A when there are a few clubs in the championship competition.

You can compare Bundesliga with Lique I because they are dominated by only one team, Bayern in Bundesliga and PSG in Lique I. PSG lost the championship in last season but they will claim it back in a new season.

Bayern Munich is always on the top level,other teams such as Dortmund or Leipzig dont take their chances when Bayern goes into a bad form and that always happen once in the season. Lille took that chance and won the league because PSG was more on champions league they wanted that trophy and made a few mistakes that costed them . Will Bayern makes a few mistakes but no one takes that and thats why they win every season

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July 01, 2021, 02:58:36 PM
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I do agree with all you guys said but that brings a bad football to the table, at least for me. I am not German so I am not fan of any specific team but when a team is champions for 100 years in a row that is just boring, we have seen Juventus streak ending this year, PSG streak ending as well, and I want to see Bayern streak ending as well. They can become champions right afterwards, 3-5 times a row again, but let us watch one season where Bayern becomes second or worse so that we can see another team becoming champions.
The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.

However the general things in Bundesliga are different than in Serie A, Lique I or Premier League. Bayern are too strong with their players and they have too dominant balance sheet that help them to buy any best player in Germany if they are interested in.

It does not happen in Premier League or Serie A when there are a few clubs in the championship competition.

You can compare Bundesliga with Lique I because they are dominated by only one team, Bayern in Bundesliga and PSG in Lique I. PSG lost the championship in last season but they will claim it back in a new season.

Bayern Munich is always on the top level,other teams such as Dortmund or Leipzig dont take their chances when Bayern goes into a bad form and that always happen once in the season. Lille took that chance and won the league because PSG was more on champions league they wanted that trophy and made a few mistakes that costed them . Will Bayern makes a few mistakes but no one takes that and thats why they win every season

This is what Leipzig has done well this season. Bayern Munich is a good team. But if they can’t form a good squad next season, they won’t be able to fight Leipzig and Dortmund. The Leipzig team is much more stable. Leipzig will win the title if Bayern do not play well.

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July 02, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
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I do agree with all you guys said but that brings a bad football to the table, at least for me. I am not German so I am not fan of any specific team but when a team is champions for 100 years in a row that is just boring, we have seen Juventus streak ending this year, PSG streak ending as well, and I want to see Bayern streak ending as well. They can become champions right afterwards, 3-5 times a row again, but let us watch one season where Bayern becomes second or worse so that we can see another team becoming champions.
The championship streak of Bayern will be broken. Lyon, Juventus, PSG witnessed it and Bayern will not be able to win in all seasons.

However the general things in Bundesliga are different than in Serie A, Lique I or Premier League. Bayern are too strong with their players and they have too dominant balance sheet that help them to buy any best player in Germany if they are interested in.

It does not happen in Premier League or Serie A when there are a few clubs in the championship competition.

You can compare Bundesliga with Lique I because they are dominated by only one team, Bayern in Bundesliga and PSG in Lique I. PSG lost the championship in last season but they will claim it back in a new season.

Bayern Munich is always on the top level,other teams such as Dortmund or Leipzig dont take their chances when Bayern goes into a bad form and that always happen once in the season. Lille took that chance and won the league because PSG was more on champions league they wanted that trophy and made a few mistakes that costed them . Will Bayern makes a few mistakes but no one takes that and thats why they win every season

This is what Leipzig has done well this season. Bayern Munich is a good team. But if they can’t form a good squad next season, they won’t be able to fight Leipzig and Dortmund. The Leipzig team is much more stable. Leipzig will win the title if Bayern do not play well.

@Maidak you’ll are forgetting one very important point, that Bayern steals their local competitors player’s season after season and thus they make their competitors weaker. Furthermore no where in other leagues do local clubs sell to their biggest competitor (year after year), and till the clubs in Bundesliga continue to do business with them there’s no way they’ll be able to end Bayern dominance over winning the title.
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July 02, 2021, 10:28:20 AM
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you’ll are forgetting one very important point, that Bayern steals their local competitors player’s season after season and thus they make their competitors weaker. Furthermore no where in other leagues do local clubs sell to their biggest competitor (year after year), and till the clubs in Bundesliga continue to do business with them there’s no way they’ll be able to end Bayern dominance over winning the title.

They not only doing this in the German League the last years , they also doing it international also with other big teams.
But there are now a few teams they have also good and nice players in there team and this are the teams that have the chance to beat them.
And it will come at some stage that they geat beaten by a other team for the Champion.

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July 02, 2021, 03:44:22 PM
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you’ll are forgetting one very important point, that Bayern steals their local competitors player’s season after season and thus they make their competitors weaker. Furthermore no where in other leagues do local clubs sell to their biggest competitor (year after year), and till the clubs in Bundesliga continue to do business with them there’s no way they’ll be able to end Bayern dominance over winning the title.

They not only doing this in the German League the last years , they also doing it international also with other big teams.
But there are now a few teams they have also good and nice players in there team and this are the teams that have the chance to beat them.
And it will come at some stage that they geat beaten by a other team for the Champion.
But I agree with that statement, in other big leagues it is very rare for a team to let their best player go to their toughest competitor. In the Bundesliga, the best team is Bayern Munich and of course Dortmund is the toughest competitor, the concern is about the best player born in Dortmund but in the end the player was brought to Bayern Munich. This case has happened a lot in both teams and I think it's a shame, where players are improving their performance and then moving to rival teams and even, some of them return to their previous team (Dortmund) because or after their performance has decreased. Therefore, it is possible that Bayern Munich will bring Haaland in the next transfer market. Shocked

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July 02, 2021, 05:34:31 PM
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you’ll are forgetting one very important point, that Bayern steals their local competitors player’s season after season and thus they make their competitors weaker. Furthermore no where in other leagues do local clubs sell to their biggest competitor (year after year), and till the clubs in Bundesliga continue to do business with them there’s no way they’ll be able to end Bayern dominance over winning the title.

If we look at the last few years the Bundesliga is not a competitive competition, we can see how Bayern Munich, which does have financial strength, always tries to weaken their competitors by buying core players from the rival club, although it is a natural thing but it shows if the power of money is an important factor for a club that wants to win, and for me personally it is not surprising that Bayern Munich won the 2019/20 season and maybe even Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the Bundesliga in the next few seasons.

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July 02, 2021, 07:49:51 PM
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you’ll are forgetting one very important point, that Bayern steals their local competitors player’s season after season and thus they make their competitors weaker. Furthermore no where in other leagues do local clubs sell to their biggest competitor (year after year), and till the clubs in Bundesliga continue to do business with them there’s no way they’ll be able to end Bayern dominance over winning the title.

If we look at the last few years the Bundesliga is not a competitive competition, we can see how Bayern Munich, which does have financial strength, always tries to weaken their competitors by buying core players from the rival club, although it is a natural thing but it shows if the power of money is an important factor for a club that wants to win, and for me personally it is not surprising that Bayern Munich won the 2019/20 season and maybe even Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the Bundesliga in the next few seasons.
Bayern Munich's domination is as a result of their financial prowess,and besides,German bundesliga is not as competitive as English premier league.In England no top rival will sell their their best player to their bitterest rival like how Dortmund do to Bayern.If the system remains like that,there is every possibility that Bayern will always dominate the German bundesliga.
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July 03, 2021, 12:17:21 PM
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Bayern Munich's domination is as a result of their financial prowess,and besides,German bundesliga is not as competitive as English premier league.In England no top rival will sell their their best player to their bitterest rival like how Dortmund do to Bayern.If the system remains like that,there is every possibility that Bayern will always dominate the German bundesliga.
It is a cycle of success, domination, financial income.

Win Bundesliga, have ticket to join Champions League, have more income.
Have more income, are able to buy best players in Bundesliga, and destroy opponents
Win titles again, the cycle repeats.

It is exactly what Bayern do in Bundesliga and they don't need to rely on Middle East billionaires or corporations to survive and grow.

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July 03, 2021, 01:02:30 PM
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Robert Lewandowski was voted FC Bayern München's player of the season 2020/2021 by a large margin. More than 75% of the Bayern fans voted for him:



Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1411295443137576961/photo/1

Absolutely deserved. After breaking Gerd Müller's legendary goal record with 41 goals, he will be remembered forever with last season. I am curious to see whether he can continue his outstanding performances next season. He will be 33 in August, but I still think he can deliver top performances for another two to three seasons. He is an absolute top athlete.

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