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December 13, 2023, 06:48:42 AM
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So, in the end it looks like the Bundesliga will have a new winner this season, although there is still plenty of opportunity for Bayern Munich to get better. But still, if at the same time that Bayer Leverkusen also manages to maintain this kind of good quality until the end of the season, then surely Bayer Leverkusen will not be overtaken.

That's the hope but on the other hand, we must also realise that this is the Bundesliga where the hope of a new champion here will be very difficult.
Indeed, at the moment Leverkusen are still very good and can still maintain their position at the top of the table but don't forget Bayern who can even do everything in the Bundesliga even last season when we were sure Dortmund could take over Bayern's reign that had lasted for the last decade could be overthrown in their last match so it is not impossible this season is also like that.

There is still a long way to go and we are only midway through the season now so anything can still happen including Bayern and Leverkusen's performance in the end.

Many of us are expecting another champion in Bundesliga but it did not happen for many years. Before, we have seen Bayern with a sluggish start but then came back and finished strong. So what is happening at present is not new to Bayern, they know it and they will make vital changes when required.

Bayer Leverkusen has to continue its degree of play. Because its rivals will also find ways to do better. Bayern also has one match behind so there is the opportunity to minimize the lead by a single point.

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December 13, 2023, 06:55:17 AM
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There weren't many goals in this match even though both teams seemed to play aggressively, the defense was equally good, they took lots of shots, only resulting in 1 goal and managed to draw 1:1. Stuttgart took the lead in the first half and after halftime and the second half started, Leverkusen immediately launched an attack and managed to equalize in the 47th minute, at least both teams must be satisfied with the results of sharing these points and no one suffered defeat.

A draw is not a bad result for Leverkusen because this club has not experienced defeat in the Bundesliga, Leverkusen is the only club that has not been defeated in all competitions and this is an extraordinary achievement. I did not think that Xabi Alonso could make Leverkusen at an unbeatable level even though the club has played many matches, namely 22 matches, Xabi Alonso is truly an extraordinary coach.
Leverkusen's last game ended in a draw, although not a good result for them but it wasn't still a bad result either, their opponent's main aim was to avoid a defeat which they in turn kept up the game to a draw. Leverkusen were also the visiting team and so their chances weren't as concrete as it'd have been if they were playing at home. At the same time Stuttgart is a good team who are also in the top chart of the league.

 Asides the outcome of the game, the team has had a good track record this season and they've been able to ensure that every opposing team knows that they're in for a tough game with them. Alonso is good on his part of managing the team and ensuring the tactical success of their games and the teams are relentless in their efforts to ensuring weekly wins and it's very much what every team should strive towards. So not to condemn them, they're a good team generally.
Yes, at least with this result they didn't suffer a defeat because both teams played a draw and their performance was almost the same, at least Leverkusen has proven that away matches are not an obstacle to showing their best Stuttgart is not an easy opponent.
therefore this result is not a result which is bad for Leverkusen and can bring home 1 point to increase their points tally, currently Leverkusen has collected 36 points with a difference of 4 points from Bayern Munich.

Leverkusen and Stuttgart have performed well this season and are the teams that are challenging Dortmund and Bayern Munich in the top 3 of the standings. I admit that Sebastian Hoeness and Xabi Alonso are truly extraordinary coaches and they deserve appreciation for their hard work in building the club.

Next week Stuttgart will face Bayern Munich. This match is an important match whether Stuttgart can break Bayern Munich's defense like Frankfurt did before, but this match will take place at Bayern Munich's home ground so this will be a very interesting match.
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December 13, 2023, 07:00:07 AM
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A draw is a pretty good step for Leverkusen so that it still adds points, even if it's only one point, rather than losing and not giving any points. It's not usual for Dortmund to be in the top five of the standings, because usually they also compete for first place. Meanwhile, Stuttgart is a new team that has entered the top three. This season's matches will be more exciting because there is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can win again this season because it looks like many people are fighting for first place at the top of the standings.
Bayer Leverkusen still stand top, despite facing a whole lot of difficult opponents, Xabi Alonso is cooking something for Leverkusen, can't wait to see them lifting the Bundesliga title. A draw points are for clubs that don't deserved winning and clearly fight for a draw. This was the moment for Borrusia Dortmund to win Bayer Leverkusen this season, they're suppose to be placed the first team to break the unbeaten run of Leverkusen this season. Dortmund messed their chances and allow Leverkusen to draw points with them, because they're in possession of the good qualities and odds of winning.
It would have been more wonderful if they could have won 3 points from the difficult match with Stuttgart, but even getting 1 point in the week where Bayern lost 3 points is valuable because there was a 1 point difference. Bayern has a very strong offensive line, but we saw in the last match that the defensive zone is still weak because they conceded 5 goals. Leverkusen needs to make good use of this year's opportunities.

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December 13, 2023, 09:14:08 AM
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A draw is a pretty good step for Leverkusen so that it still adds points, even if it's only one point, rather than losing and not giving any points. It's not usual for Dortmund to be in the top five of the standings, because usually they also compete for first place. Meanwhile, Stuttgart is a new team that has entered the top three. This season's matches will be more exciting because there is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can win again this season because it looks like many people are fighting for first place at the top of the standings.
Bayer Leverkusen still stand top, despite facing a whole lot of difficult opponents, Xabi Alonso is cooking something for Leverkusen, can't wait to see them lifting the Bundesliga title. A draw points are for clubs that don't deserved winning and clearly fight for a draw. This was the moment for Borrusia Dortmund to win Bayer Leverkusen this season, they're suppose to be placed the first team to break the unbeaten run of Leverkusen this season. Dortmund messed their chances and allow Leverkusen to draw points with them, because they're in possession of the good qualities and odds of winning.
It would have been more wonderful if they could have won 3 points from the difficult match with Stuttgart, but even getting 1 point in the week where Bayern lost 3 points is valuable because there was a 1 point difference. Bayern has a very strong offensive line, but we saw in the last match that the defensive zone is still weak because they conceded 5 goals. Leverkusen needs to make good use of this year's opportunities.
Stuttgart is also a strong team this season and a draw is quite fair for both teams I think, and Leverkusen is a team that is unbeaten up to now if they can continue to consistently maintain it by being able to achieve wins against lower level teams and try to keep up when competing with top teams I believe Leverkusen can continue to leave Bayern behind because so far the Bayern team has been very inconsistent even though they have strong strength and this could be exploited by Leverkusen to be able to break Bayern's dominance in the race for the Bundesliga title.

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December 13, 2023, 09:57:47 AM
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Maintaining such a convincing form throughout the season is undoubtedly a significant challenge, but as you rightly pointed out, that's where the real test lies. Bundesliga gives a hope for new champions this season where Leverkusen being the strongest team to break the curse of boring league. If Bayer Leverkusen can sustain this level of performance and teamwork, they stand a good chance of breaking the trend of title domination by just one or two teams. It will be exciting to see how the remainder of the season unfolds for Bayer Leverkusen. It seem Bayer Leverkusen have become a worldwide favorite team to stop Bayern's domination.
two teams I don`t think so, Bayern has been having league title for over a decade now and so dortmund should not be added here they are just too inconsistent even in bayern bad seasons they still were the better team. I bet bayern munich will have much to worry of this season and not like other seasons were their rival were so much consistent which was Dortmund because they are going against a team who has been able to keep up to this point without losing a game and that can`t be said about them
Borussia Dortmund are still so busy with their business of making a profit that they are not focused on becoming champions and from what they are doing, it seems like they are very satisfied with just finishing runners up for many years.
This season is a breath of fresh air to see a new team that will hopefully break the dominance that Bayern Munich has held for years. This is bad news for Bayern Munich supporters, but on the other hand this is good news for football lovers who really want to see this league more alive and not just dominated by one team.
That hope is now held by Leverkusen.

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December 13, 2023, 10:15:12 AM
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Leverkusen may have a chance to compete with Munich. but we can learn from last season where the battle for championship was also quite dramatic. Leverkusen may not be defeated, but they have to maintain this with the players' performance which I think could also be disrupted if they continue to play without rotation that supports the players' fitness.
However, Leverkusen has performed very well. and they just need to maintain it to prevent Munich from retaining the trophy. However, the league will be more interesting when there are clubs competing with each other. not just monopolized by one or two clubs.
Last season fighting for tittle raise quite dramatically with Dortmund success lead to the top position standings and last winning match automatically will celebrate as the winner but they loss and Bayern Munich success become the champion. For this season seems quit dramatic for Bayern Munich because top position standings still manage by Bayern Leverkusen with 4 points remaining but Bayern still have one match left.

In this season Bayern Munich not the only one dominance teams become the winner, have Bayern Leverkusen and VfB Stuttgart keep pressure on the top position exactly Stuttgart success held draw top teams Leverkusen and next match can get second position standings if defeat Bayern Munich. Really interested with Bundesliga tittle race for this season, not dominance by one team only but have three until four teams with fewest points left on the table standings.

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December 13, 2023, 10:24:31 AM
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Borussia Dortmund are still so busy with their business of making a profit that they are not focused on becoming champions and from what they are doing, it seems like they are very satisfied with just finishing runners up for many years.
This season is a breath of fresh air to see a new team that will hopefully break the dominance that Bayern Munich has held for years. This is bad news for Bayern Munich supporters, but on the other hand this is good news for football lovers who really want to see this league more alive and not just dominated by one team.
That hope is now held by Leverkusen.


Dortmund are simply working for the foreign market while they are in the Champions League. for them this will be a more priority tournament. because that's where they can show off their players and find buyers for them. After finishing their run in the Champions League they will completely focus on the Bundesliga, every year they act the same way, it works best for them and they are not going to change anything.

 
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December 13, 2023, 10:50:59 AM
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Dortmund are simply working for the foreign market while they are in the Champions League. for them this will be a more priority tournament. because that's where they can show off their players and find buyers for them. After finishing their run in the Champions League they will completely focus on the Bundesliga, every year they act the same way, it works best for them and they are not going to change anything.
Maybe there is some truth in what you say because Dortmund almost always qualify from the group stage and this season they did it again. That's how they promote their best players and that's what they have to do if Dortmund is still a business club today. We know that they have produced so many players for big European teams and in the transfer market there are quite a few teams that are willing to spend large sums to be able to recruit their players. It is possible that Karim Adeyemi and Julian Brandt will be on the radar of several big teams and it seems like that is no longer an open secret.

Dortmund can always reach the quarter-finals and maybe after that ends they will return to their habitat again to secure a place in the top 4 and indeed they have not changed at all and will continue to target the same thing rather than having to bother competing to win the Bundesliga title.
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December 13, 2023, 12:32:58 PM
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That's right and the Dortmund team doesn't seem to be targeting champions so they just struggled at the start without thinking about maintaining consistency.
However, despite the target of the Dortmund team which only makes business with the star players they have, this team is still always considered a top European team even though every season they sell their star players, it is an extraordinary thing for Dortmund to do to maintain the stability of his team to remain at the top of the Bundesliga.
That has been the normal routine for Dortmund every season, they produce stars  for business purposes, if this team was able to retain the youngsters they produced they probably would've been one of the best team in Europe and might have ended the dominance of Bayern Munich a long time ago, about last season they almost won the league with Jude Bellingham as their star player, image if the likes of Sancho, Haaland and other stars they've produced where still in the team, they would've given Bayern Munich a very tough challenge.

 But one thing i love about Dortmund is that whenever they let go of a rising star, they end up finding replacements that would keep the team going,and also maintain top 4 position and qualify for the UCL, well apart from Bayern Munich, Dortmund is another big team in the Bundesliga and a very strong rival to Bayern Munich for years now.
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December 13, 2023, 12:45:52 PM
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After Frankfurt won in their last match 5:1 against Bayern Munic , the next game between Leverkusen and Frankfurt can be described as a top match. Leverkusen must continue to play as focussed as before in order not to reduce the gap to Bayern Munich.
This match will have kick off time two hours earlier than the Bayern Munich game. The Bayern Munich players will certainly have some opportunity to watch the game and motivate themselves.
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December 13, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
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the 1.fc.köln has to pay a fine of 595,000 euros for firing pyrotechnics . the match had to be interrupted for 8 minutes .
this is the highest fine imposed by the dfb so far. the 1.fc.köln has lodged a protest against this drastic fine  Wink
it looks really nice. but unfortunately it's also dangerous for the fans

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December 13, 2023, 02:07:49 PM
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iam not believed this week
super team bayern munhen lost 5-1 meet Eintracht Frankfurt, and bayern munchen play wth full team include hary kane(leading top score bundesliga season 2023/2024 until now)

To be really honest, I didn't think it either until I went to check the score. This is too much for Bayern Munich to handle; imagine a 5-1 lead. Frankfurt is a small Bundesliga team, and while I understand that games can change, I believe that Bayern Munich didn't want to win. All of their strong players are on the pitch, and none of them can defeat Frankfurt. This is also an indication that Bayern Munich will not win the season title because of the way leverkusen are playing and the fact that they have more points than Bayern Munich. It seems like Bayern Munich has run out of things to do.

Leverkusen hasn't lost to any team yet this season because they always take each game seriously and that's why they maintain winning streaks. The team has a good coach and players communicate well with him. Last season, they were able to qualify for the Europa League, and this season, I believe they will win both the Bundesliga and qualify to the Champion League.

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December 13, 2023, 02:36:18 PM
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What interesting is that team that in the previous season were unable to dominate the Bundesliga are now competing at the top by increasing their wins to be able to get full points from every match that takes place.
Like Leverkusen and Stuttgart last season they were not team to be proud of but now they are at the top of the standings and in third place, this is why the competition is hot and the matches are interesting.
It looks like this season Bundesliga will have new champion.

For Leipzig, from the start they have been strong team and just look at every season they can dominate the Bundesliga and at the lowest level in these 5 seasons they have only been in the top 4 and have always been runners-up or in 3rd place.
In Dortmund uncertain condition like this, it is natural that Leipzig can beat them, after all, Leipzig is also team that can always put pressure on Dortmund every season.
Over the years, every season, we've seen certain teams leading the top chart of the Bundesliga and there's been some levels of consistency especially for Munich who's most of the time finished at the first position. Before now, Leverkusen and Stuttgart weren't even seen near the top four, it was always a Munich, Dortmund show but there's been much of a difference this season. Now there's a kinda rub shoulders between these teams, Leverkusen and Stuttgart who's been on the sidelines for seasons have now come up to be competitive for the trophy. Since the season began, they've been able to be threats to the trophy race, Munich now have to be extra cautious in their games too.

 They've lost twice in a row and it's kept the ints between them and Leverkusen. Also for Stuttgart who's been doing their best to keep their spot in the top 4 space. It's very much impression that this season took a different turn in the Bundesliga. Leipzig and Dortmund still have to strive to regain back their usual space on the table because currently, they're seemingly below the top 3, although with not much points difference which they still have a chance to meet up with.
In every season there are only two names, namely Bayern Munich and Dortmund, who always dominate every league, they are both team that always change in winning the title, especially for Bayern Munich which is the team with the most dominant title in the Bundesliga.
But it is true that only few team were able to match Bayern Munich and Dortmund in each previous season and now it has become new season for the Bundesliga because there are other teams trying to dominate the Bundesliga.
Leverkusen and Stuttgart are dangerous team and it is also possible that they will be difficult threat to Bayern Munich in winning the title this season, currently Leverkusen is still at the top and Stuttgart is in third place.
It is possible that one of them will become new candidate to win this season.

Apart from losing in row, Leipzig also had total of 4 matches which could not be used as matches that gave full points because three of them were defeats and one was draw.
Leipzig changes were really visible in term of the quality of their game, as they experienced delay in creating good enough game.
In each of their matches, nothing really stands out, but it is true that Leipzig and Dortmund are team that have found it difficult to achieve good results this season and they may have difficulty in the future in occupying better position.
There are strong teams at the top of the table that are putting pressure on Leipzig and Dortmund.

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December 13, 2023, 02:55:06 PM
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It would have been more wonderful if they could have won 3 points from the difficult match with Stuttgart, but even getting 1 point in the week where Bayern lost 3 points is valuable because there was a 1 point difference. Bayern has a very strong offensive line, but we saw in the last match that the defensive zone is still weak because they conceded 5 goals. Leverkusen needs to make good use of this year's opportunities.
It would be great if it was like that but on the other hand VFB is also not an easy opponent at the moment especially at the beginning of the season they were quite troublesome for some big clubs and 1 point is actually very good in the match that Leverkusen did for their away match if you look at the statistics and the game that was done I think it was very good for Leverkusen because VFB played very well in the match they did.
That can't be changed now and all they have to focus on now is how they do their best for the upcoming matches.
They still have Frankfurt to face later on and that's bound to be a bit of a problem too so now before the bundesliga goes off for a while they're still struggling for form because apart from the bundesliga they also have to prepare for the last Europa League game although that doesn't bother them in terms of points because whatever the result they'll still be top of the table.

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December 13, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
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the 1.fc.köln has to pay a fine of 595,000 euros for firing pyrotechnics . the match had to be interrupted for 8 minutes .
this is the highest fine imposed by the dfb so far. the 1.fc.köln has lodged a protest against this drastic fine  Wink
it looks really nice. but unfortunately it's also dangerous for the fans

That is a huge amount.
But it was clear that the DFB would increase the fines. Because the clubs have not managed to stop such actions so far. Again and again, these so-called fans manage it to smuggle in so much pyrotechnics. I know that there is always a discussion for and against it. But as you have already written, it is dangerous for the fans.
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After Frankfurt won in their last match 5:1 against Bayern Munic , the next game between Leverkusen and Frankfurt can be described as a top match. Leverkusen must continue to play as focussed as before in order not to reduce the gap to Bayern Munich.
This match will have kick off time two hours earlier than the Bayern Munich game. The Bayern Munich players will certainly have some opportunity to watch the game and motivate themselves.

Although in the previous match Eintracht Frankfurt managed to beat Bayern Munich with a big score of 5-1 but ya, I personally will remain confident that Eintracht Frankfurt cannot do the same surprise for the match against Bayer Leverkusen later. Indeed, at least Eintracht Frankfurt also has pretty good results for home and away matches so far in the Bundesliga but even so, I think it will still be very difficult for Eintracht Frankfurt to beat Bayer Leverkusen.

Because ya, at least at this moment I assume that Bayer Leverkusen is still a better team than Bayern Munich at the moment. Therefore, it I dont care about Eintracht Frankfurt beating Bayern Munich because after all, Bayer Leverkusen also has a very good record so far this season for home and away matches. Therefore, I personally will remain confident that Bayer Leverkusen will still succeed in defeating Eintracht Frankfurt in the next match.

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December 13, 2023, 03:46:13 PM
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the 1.fc.köln has to pay a fine of 595,000 euros for firing pyrotechnics . the match had to be interrupted for 8 minutes .
this is the highest fine imposed by the dfb so far. the 1.fc.köln has lodged a protest against this drastic fine  Wink
it looks really nice. but unfortunately it's also dangerous for the fans

That is a huge amount.
But it was clear that the DFB would increase the fines. Because the clubs have not managed to stop such actions so far. Again and again, these so-called fans manage it to smuggle in so much pyrotechnics. I know that there is always a discussion for and against it. But as you have already written, it is dangerous for the fans.

Never realized Germans were so deep into pyro in their football culture. It's not even a new thing to them. And they are talking about legal and illegal fireworks for fans.
In my opinion any playing of fire from the fans should be outright banned. It's absurd to let fans of competing teams allowed in with things that could easily be weaponized. And German fans are already considered one of the largest hooligans in Europe. If allowed to continue, they could bring more severe incidents in the future. A disaster in the making.
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December 13, 2023, 03:52:51 PM
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To be really honest, I didn't think it either until I went to check the score. This is too much for Bayern Munich to handle; imagine a 5-1 lead. Frankfurt is a small Bundesliga team, and while I understand that games can change, I believe that Bayern Munich didn't want to win. All of their strong players are on the pitch, and none of them can defeat Frankfurt. This is also an indication that Bayern Munich will not win the season title because of the way leverkusen are playing and the fact that they have more points than Bayern Munich. It seems like Bayern Munich has run out of things to do.

Leverkusen hasn't lost to any team yet this season because they always take each game seriously and that's why they maintain winning streaks. The team has a good coach and players communicate well with him. Last season, they were able to qualify for the Europa League, and this season, I believe they will win both the Bundesliga and qualify to the Champion League.
Munich's last Bundesliga game against Frankfurt was a huge indictment on their status, they were believed to be a better side but one way or the other, Frankfurt was able to gain the 3points and also keep the goal margins too. Added to the fact that they were the visitors in the game, Bayern still would have strived to do better and get a tangible result, they really underestimated Frankfurt and they paid for it.

 Their loss however has cost them a reduction in points too and Leverkusen's draw helped them maintain point gaps too. Tuchel's team need to level up as the bait is no longer for the sluggish. Leverkusen has a target and from the beginning of the season till now, they've ensured that they maintain the competitiveness and fight to get the trophy. Although this is just the first half of the season, there's still time for Munich to get back on track and make corrections, their next game would be looked out for to mark either a progress or a decline in their race.
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December 13, 2023, 04:05:21 PM
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That's the hope but on the other hand, we must also realise that this is the Bundesliga where the hope of a new champion here will be very difficult.
Indeed, at the moment Leverkusen are still very good and can still maintain their position at the top of the table but don't forget Bayern who can even do everything in the Bundesliga even last season when we were sure Dortmund could take over Bayern's reign that had lasted for the last decade could be overthrown in their last match so it is not impossible this season is also like that.

There is still a long way to go and we are only midway through the season now so anything can still happen including Bayern and Leverkusen's performance in the end.

Many of us are expecting another champion in Bundesliga but it did not happen for many years. Before, we have seen Bayern with a sluggish start but then came back and finished strong. So what is happening at present is not new to Bayern, they know it and they will make vital changes when required.

Bayer Leverkusen has to continue its degree of play. Because its rivals will also find ways to do better. Bayern also has one match behind so there is the opportunity to minimize the lead by a single point.
As much as possible for Leverkusen right now is just to maintain their consistency so that it can continue to run well because after all with the current conditions that is what they need most.
Regardless of how intimidating from Bayern they always do in order to successfully stick tight in the end if Leverkusen still have good consistency then Bayern will be very difficult to overtake them.
But sometimes this kind of consistency won't come for a whole season because there will definitely be obstacles over time and that's where the role of Xabi must be emphasised.

As I said before. Last season even Dortmund were very comfortable at the top but slowly they were eroded by the many interventions from Bayern because in the end Bayern were always the main players in the Bundesliga so to beat such a situation inevitably Leverkusen must be required harder even though we know it's a very big burden.

 
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December 13, 2023, 05:23:26 PM
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the 1.fc.köln has to pay a fine of 595,000 euros for firing pyrotechnics . the match had to be interrupted for 8 minutes .
this is the highest fine imposed by the dfb so far. the 1.fc.köln has lodged a protest against this drastic fine  Wink
it looks really nice. but unfortunately it's also dangerous for the fans

That is a huge amount.
But it was clear that the DFB would increase the fines. Because the clubs have not managed to stop such actions so far. Again and again, these so-called fans manage it to smuggle in so much pyrotechnics. I know that there is always a discussion for and against it. But as you have already written, it is dangerous for the fans.

Never realized Germans were so deep into pyro in their football culture. It's not even a new thing to them. And they are talking about legal and illegal fireworks for fans.
In my opinion any playing of fire from the fans should be outright banned. It's absurd to let fans of competing teams allowed in with things that could easily be weaponized. And German fans are already considered one of the largest hooligans in Europe. If allowed to continue, they could bring more severe incidents in the future. A disaster in the making.

Bayern Munich's defeat is actually a normal thing, even in other leagues they also experience defeats like this because a football player is also a human being who feels tired when competing, so maybe I can still understand Bayern Munich's first defeat, but the problem here is not about the defeat but the one who defeated. the club that is ranked 7th should at least be able to draw but the fact that they lost with a score of 5-1 is something embarrassing for a giant club like Bayern Munich and this is what makes the fans feel very sorry to see the defeat with such a big score so it's not because of the defeat but the score. Frankfurt managed to score a big goal.
Yes, the match is still very long, even though this defeat was very embarrassing, this does not mean that Munich will experience the same thing in next match, but in the end, Bayern Munich will return to first place to dominate the Bundesliga.

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