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December 14, 2023, 09:08:52 PM
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There is some downgrade in Leverkusen's performance lately but it is natural and there is still no problem also. I mean actually they are playing really effectively even in the matches they lose points. The recent matches in which they lost points were even challenging matches of the season - against Stuttgart and Dortmund.

Bayern Munich's losing by an embarrassing score against Frankfurt was a big help for Leverkusen to keep a decent point gap with them also.

I really want Bayern Munich's championship streak to end and it looks like the only team that really can do this is Leverkusen at the moment.

Currently, Bayern Munich is only 4 points different from Leverkusen. However, Bayern Munich has one match postponed and it will be useful for them to add points to reduce the gap from Leverkusen. Well, referring to what you said. I'm sure most of us want the Bundesliga to look different. At least, there is one team that can break Bayern's dominance for a decade. So far, Leverkusen is a team that is even able to top the standings and is 4 points ahead of Munich. Unfortunately, that is not a guarantee for Xavi Alonson's squad. The Bundesliga has only presented 14 matches, which means there are still many matches that must be played by all the teams competing in this League.

As for Bayern Munich's defeat against Frankfurt, no one could have denied that they even lost with a landslide score of 5-1. but don't get me wrong, if Bayern are able to get back on the right track with the squad they have. Moreover, I'm sure Tuchel will hunt for several players in the January transfer window. It could be that they will also target the goalkeeper if Neuer is unable to return to his previous form. Apart from that, it is very likely that Tuchel wants several defensive players who are established and have quality that they can rely on. Thus, it is possible that in the second half of the season, Bayern Munich will appear much stronger and more resilient.

On the other hand, a big challenge will also face Leverkusen. this week, Frankfurt will face Leverkusen at BayArena. if Frankfurt can overthrow Bayern, why not Leverkusen. which means, Frankfurt has a chance for that. So, the point is that Xabi Alonso must prepare his squad and maintain consistency, especially the fitness of his core players. If some of them are injured, it is possible that Leverkusen will experience a decline in performance. in fact, I've covered several times for both of these teams. but because there are still people discussing it, so I try to say it again from my point of view. In essence, we have to first determine how far Leverkusen has gone. and how skilled Xabi is at getting around his strategy to keep his squad on the right track. So, to be sure, let's just follow every match presented in this competition.

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December 14, 2023, 09:28:00 PM
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You are right, Union Berlin should focus on improving its performance in the Bundesliga rather than focusing too much on the Champions League. They failed in the Champions League by only winning 2 points from 2 draws. This should be considered fine as Union Berlin is also not doing well in the Bundesliga after 13 matches. Now that Union Berlin has more opportunities to focus on the league to improve their performance, they must avoid the relegation zone.

Bayern Munich, Dortmund and Leipzig are the 3 Bundesliga representatives who have qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League. Bayern Munich and Dortmund have a lot of chances to survive and compete until the quarter-finals, but I don't doubt Leipzig that much if the teams they will be facing are not too tough.
Union Berlin haven't been so good this season, they've been able to keep up with at least scoring goals in their recent games. Even if their victories aren't always coming forth. They've also been able to showcase their best at the UCL which still ended in a disqualification and has now given them ample time and strength to focus more on Bundesliga.

 Now they'd be onto the domestic league race and on the standings, they're just a point out of the relegation zone and they've got work to do in ensuring that they don't decline in performance or points too. For the top teams in the same league that's advanced to the next stage of the European contest, they've got what it takes to keep up with the contest no doubt and hopefully they'll get to the final stage, it won't although be an easy ride.
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December 14, 2023, 10:29:39 PM
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If Union Berlin has been eliminated in the UCL, it is time for them to apply better concentration in the Bundesliga to achieve a better improvement in position. Because for this season there is no more trophy that Union Berlin needs to hope for other than to stay in the Bundesliga and start next season better and more consistently from the start. This season, Union Berlin is really very different from last season, where currently Union Berlin is fighting not to be relegated at the end of the season.

The team that the previous season was able to penetrate the top 4 in the Bundesliga but now they have to fight to escape the relegation zone. This was completely below my expectations. It's very sad that they have performed so poorly this season. I don't know if it was because they were competing in the Lica Champions that it caused them to be in lower performance in the Bundesliga because the players were tired. But it seems like that can't be the reason. But if I look back a few seasons, is this the first time Union Berlin has played in the Champions League?

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December 14, 2023, 10:33:19 PM
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I think it is always good for teams to play several competitions because there is something to look forward to, but in the case of Union Berlin it might be good that there is the Bundesliga only now. They are out of the DFB Cup and now their Champions League adventure came to an end as well. The mission is set in stone now: avoid relegation into 2. Bundesliga. When you see them playing in the Champions League, it was quite good at times and they don't deserve that far down in the table. I think they will still climb a few ranks, but I don't expect big surprises from here on.
Not all teams have strengths that can be shared in several matches because sometimes they need a special team that is ready to be used to play attack and aim to win, and there are also teams that are used to defend because they may want to use all their attacks in the final round, but in the end In reality, Union Berlin is still unable to do that, so their strengths cannot be shared, and they have to remain focused on one competition.


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December 14, 2023, 10:41:26 PM
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If Union Berlin has been eliminated in the UCL, it is time for them to apply better concentration in the Bundesliga to achieve a better improvement in position. Because for this season there is no more trophy that Union Berlin needs to hope for other than to stay in the Bundesliga and start next season better and more consistently from the start. This season, Union Berlin is really very different from last season, where currently Union Berlin is fighting not to be relegated at the end of the season.
15th position on the table and I don't think they have any solid chance of qualifying for any significant positions on the table. The elimination of Union Berlin from UCL have proven to become more crucial. Union Berlin elimination from the UEFA Champions League also Nenad Bjelica might be relieved from his duties as headcoach of Union Berlin. Alot has changed for the club, Union Berlin are now fighting for a spot in bundesliga this season, very close to relegation zone and it will take the club divine grace to be able to pull through these phases.


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December 14, 2023, 11:58:08 PM
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If Union Berlin has been eliminated in the UCL, it is time for them to apply better concentration in the Bundesliga to achieve a better improvement in position. Because for this season there is no more trophy that Union Berlin needs to hope for other than to stay in the Bundesliga and start next season better and more consistently from the start. This season, Union Berlin is really very different from last season, where currently Union Berlin is fighting not to be relegated at the end of the season.
15th position on the table and I don't think they have any solid chance of qualifying for any significant positions on the table. The elimination of Union Berlin from UCL have proven to become more crucial. Union Berlin elimination from the UEFA Champions League also Nenad Bjelica might be relieved from his duties as headcoach of Union Berlin. Alot has changed for the club, Union Berlin are now fighting for a spot in bundesliga this season, very close to relegation zone and it will take the club divine grace to be able to pull through these phases.



I think being eliminated from the UEFA Champions League should make them focus more on the league. Even if they can find any position in the league, I believe they shouldn't relegate.

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December 15, 2023, 12:50:55 AM
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Im not feeling good with union berlin right now. The club is not yet fully recovering from the bad performance. We have not yet seen berlin to get win streak for the several matches in a row. The performance of berlin in UCL and bundesliga have proven that berlin is still in a bad shapes.
It has not made good progress. It was almost winning the game against madrid but since we do know that how strong madrid int he previous match and it can also give us a small insight if berlin has its main problem in the defensive line.
I can put some applauses for the attacking lines but the defensive line has become the main problem owned by berling right now. The club is not yet performing like what it used to be.
It's a setback for berling to go out from UCL this fast. Unacceptable result for all of berlin fans.
Last season, Union Berlin performed quite well in the Bundesliga and they could had the opportunity to compete in the UCL this season, but they did not show better progress but rather poor performance which meant that Berlin could not get single win in the UCL.
Union Berlin also cannot appear in the Europa League this season and can only play to focus on the Bundesliga, but the final hope in the Bundesliga is also not very good because during this season it started with 13 matches, getting 9 defeats with only 3 wins.
Meanwhile, Union Berlin standings are in 15th position with only 10 points, Berlin is experiencing really difficult problems this season.

There is no longer any hope for Union Berlin and they can only look forward to next season if they want to see them change and show good progress.
In the match against Real Madrid, they no almost win but almost held draw, but in the 89th minute Dani Ceballos managed to score a goal which made the situation change to Real Madrid lead 2 - 3.

In the attacking game, all players from midfielders and strikers can play competitively and it not that bad and the defense line really needs improvement so that in the future they can be stronger up front and also at the back.
The defense line is very important for football squad because really strong defense line can withstand or prevent defeat from occurring.

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December 15, 2023, 01:21:31 AM
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I think being eliminated from the UEFA Champions League should make them focus more on the league. Even if they can find any position in the league, I believe they shouldn't relegate.

I'm not sure they will be a relegated team. But nothing is impossible if you look at their performance so far. I hope they experience bad results in the League because they don't have good squad depth so it will still be difficult to compete in 2 championships. I don't think they will be able to finish in the top 4 this season but at least they can ensure themselves to be safe from the relegation zone.

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December 15, 2023, 03:12:36 AM
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15th position on the table and I don't think they have any solid chance of qualifying for any significant positions on the table. The elimination of Union Berlin from UCL have proven to become more crucial. Union Berlin elimination from the UEFA Champions League also Nenad Bjelica might be relieved from his duties as headcoach of Union Berlin. Alot has changed for the club, Union Berlin are now fighting for a spot in bundesliga this season, very close to relegation zone and it will take the club divine grace to be able to pull through these phases.
Union Berlin just needs to focus in every match so as not to lose a lot of points like at the start of the season when they experienced consecutive defeats.
Union Berlin has experienced 9 defeats so far and looking at last season's statistics, the team in the European zone lost 12 times, so Union Berlin has a chance at least to get a place in the conference league but that is not an easy thing because it means they have to win a lot of matches and every one defeat will make the opportunity smaller and so on.
The Champions League doesn't seem like a competition that suits Union Berlin's strengths, maybe the European league or conference league would be better for them and could do more than the Champions League where they were only able to achieve two draws from six group stage matches.
However, improving your position in the Bundesliga will be very important as well as focusing on the next match against Bochum so as not to lose points.

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December 15, 2023, 04:12:22 AM
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I'm not sure they will be a relegated team. But nothing is impossible if you look at their performance so far. I hope they experience bad results in the League because they don't have good squad depth so it will still be difficult to compete in 2 championships. I don't think they will be able to finish in the top 4 this season but at least they can ensure themselves to be safe from the relegation zone.
Union Berlin will not make it to the top four this season, rather they will try to fight to remain in good position, I'm not even sure they surpassed 10th position on the table. In group C, there are more challenging matches to watch and I wouldn't be surprised if Union Berlin starts picking good form and winning upcoming matches in Bundesliga, they're no longer in UCL so the team's attention is not longer divided. They will channel full focused on becoming one of the competitive clubs in bundesliga and find a way to missed out on inconsistent stats, remember they're close to the relegation zone.


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December 15, 2023, 04:44:33 AM
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I think being eliminated from the UEFA Champions League should make them focus more on the league. Even if they can find any position in the league, I believe they shouldn't relegate.

I'm not sure they will be a relegated team. But nothing is impossible if you look at their performance so far. I hope they experience bad results in the League because they don't have good squad depth so it will still be difficult to compete in 2 championships. I don't think they will be able to finish in the top 4 this season but at least they can ensure themselves to be safe from the relegation zone.
In my opinion, it would be better for them to be eliminated from the Champions League so they can focus more on the Bundesliga to improve their position in the standings. Union Berlin is facing difficult times this season, after successfully finishing in the top four last season, they have actually fallen to 15th position in the standings. Now they can focus more on the domestic league to improve their position. Regarding relegation, I think a team like Union Berlin will fight to survive in the highest caste competition in the German League.

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If Union Berlin has been eliminated in the UCL, it is time for them to apply better concentration in the Bundesliga to achieve a better improvement in position. Because for this season there is no more trophy that Union Berlin needs to hope for other than to stay in the Bundesliga and start next season better and more consistently from the start. This season, Union Berlin is really very different from last season, where currently Union Berlin is fighting not to be relegated at the end of the season.
15th position on the table and I don't think they have any solid chance of qualifying for any significant positions on the table. The elimination of Union Berlin from UCL have proven to become more crucial. Union Berlin elimination from the UEFA Champions League also Nenad Bjelica might be relieved from his duties as headcoach of Union Berlin. Alot has changed for the club, Union Berlin are now fighting for a spot in bundesliga this season, very close to relegation zone and it will take the club divine grace to be able to pull through these phases.
In last 11 matches, they have only one win and now exit from Champions League without any win mean things are not good for them in this season even they are now out of the relegation jail but still they need to bring improvement if they want to have anything positive from this season their next game is against another struggling club Bochum which is having 2 wins and 7 draws in this season.

Now we are having rumours about few changes in coming transfer window which is essential for the improvement otherwise we can have more troubles for them in coming weeks even most chances now they will stay in bottom clubs but still they need to be stable if they want to have another season here in Bundesliga.

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December 15, 2023, 06:57:04 AM
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I think being eliminated from the UEFA Champions League should make them focus more on the league. Even if they can find any position in the league, I believe they shouldn't relegate.

I'm not sure they will be a relegated team. But nothing is impossible if you look at their performance so far. I hope they experience bad results in the League because they don't have good squad depth so it will still be difficult to compete in 2 championships. I don't think they will be able to finish in the top 4 this season but at least they can ensure themselves to be safe from the relegation zone.
In my opinion, it would be better for them to be eliminated from the Champions League so they can focus more on the Bundesliga to improve their position in the standings. Union Berlin is facing difficult times this season, after successfully finishing in the top four last season, they have actually fallen to 15th position in the standings. Now they can focus more on the domestic league to improve their position. Regarding relegation, I think a team like Union Berlin will fight to survive in the highest caste competition in the German League.
In fact, their elimination from the European stage is not a good thing, but on the contrary, it certainly affects the mentality and self-confidence of this team, especially the Union Berlin team, which is very, very worse this season when compared to last season.
Now Union Berlin only needs to focus on improving its position in the Bundesliga standings, but primarily they must first improve this team to be able to improve its performance.
With the many changes that have occurred this season making Union Berlin even worse, maybe the only way they have to do is bring in lots of new players in the January transfer market to be able to improve their team.

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December 15, 2023, 07:33:40 AM
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I think being eliminated from the UEFA Champions League should make them focus more on the league. Even if they can find any position in the league, I believe they shouldn't relegate.

I'm not sure they will be a relegated team. But nothing is impossible if you look at their performance so far. I hope they experience bad results in the League because they don't have good squad depth so it will still be difficult to compete in 2 championships. I don't think they will be able to finish in the top 4 this season but at least they can ensure themselves to be safe from the relegation zone.
In my opinion, it would be better for them to be eliminated from the Champions League so they can focus more on the Bundesliga to improve their position in the standings. Union Berlin is facing difficult times this season, after successfully finishing in the top four last season, they have actually fallen to 15th position in the standings. Now they can focus more on the domestic league to improve their position. Regarding relegation, I think a team like Union Berlin will fight to survive in the highest caste competition in the German League.
Yes being knocked out of the Champions League allows them to focus more on the Bundesliga, I know they are disappointed about that, but they also have to look at the positives because in the Bundesliga they are still struggling and now they are only one level above the relegation zone. Union Berlin have shown a very deep decline and it shows after the start of the new season, because if we look at last season, their performance was quite good and even at the beginning of the season they were able to provide very tough competition.
It is not easy for them to rise quickly and even so they must slowly improve their rankings, not necessarily quickly, at least they can take advantage of the second round later.

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December 15, 2023, 07:41:50 AM
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Leverkusen is definitely going to do something great this season in the bundesliga and aswell in other leagues where they are participating along side. Bayern Leverkusen seem to be aiming to get multiple trophies by the end of this season because they just keep staying at the top of almost every league where they are participating in this season.

Currently in the Europa, they are putting out a really good performance tonight and are leading by a very good number of goal of which they are definitely going to get complete points by the end of the match, so far they stand unbeaten aswell and are definitely aiming to win the league, even the team that seemed like they would have looked like their biggest contender in the Europa (Liverpool) is appearing weak so the chances of Leverkusen seem to further increase, hopefully they will be able to get two or more trophies by the end of this season.
The Europa League is tough but becomes very easy for clubs that knows what they're doing. Leverkusen can fight for survival but they can't lack the mentality to win their oppositions this season. Bayer Leverkusen is currently stationed as the best club in the world  of Bundesliga football, they're unbeaten in 14 games played this season, incredible performance from the club. Xabi Alonso is doing a nice job by implementing outstanding performance for the club, they're currently doing their best to maintain unbeaten run and becomes very very aggresive in matches this season.
Bayer Leverkusen is having 14 matches unbeaten streak in Bundesliga and their streak in this season is 6 matches winning streak in Europa League as well which making them special under Xabi Alonso and best German club in this season as well with this performance things are looking impressive, and they clearly have chance for the double as well which could be the biggest gift for their fans as well after years they will be able to celebrate massive success.

Right now, they are having two draw matches streak with their next game is against Frankfurt which can bring them another three points and this could be enough for them to stay at the top of league table until match which is coming after break and this could be good psychological advantage against their toughest opponent Bayern Munich which is currently at the second spot with having one match in hand and difference is four points.

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Union Berlin have shown a very deep decline and it shows after the start of the new season, because if we look at last season, their performance was quite good and even at the beginning of the season they were able to provide very tough competition.

Apart from Union Berlin, if you look at the performance of Mainz and Koln, they have also experienced a very significant decline. I don't know why they have such difficulty competing with other teams, but what is clear is that this season they have to fight hard to at least not be relegated.
Union Berlin is the worst. Last season they were competing with Munich and Dortmund for Champions League spots, but now they are struggling at the bottom of the standings.

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December 15, 2023, 07:46:05 AM
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Dortmund have been really bad in the Bundesliga for many weeks. They were able to collect only four points in their last four league games. This caused them to fall behind the championship race very much as well. They are doing much better in the Champions League actually. That performance helped them even finish the group as the leader.  Smiley

However they had better start performing better than this in the Bundesliga. Even the fight for top 4 will be really challenging for them as it seems. Stuttgart and Leipzig both are going on much better than Dortmund in the league. Leipzig are also competing in the Champions League in the end but they are handling these two tournaments more effectively.

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December 15, 2023, 07:48:05 AM
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Yes being knocked out of the Champions League allows them to focus more on the Bundesliga, I know they are disappointed about that, but they also have to look at the positives because in the Bundesliga they are still struggling and now they are only one level above the relegation zone. Union Berlin have shown a very deep decline and it shows after the start of the new season, because if we look at last season, their performance was quite good and even at the beginning of the season they were able to provide very tough competition.
It is not easy for them to rise quickly and even so they must slowly improve their rankings, not necessarily quickly, at least they can take advantage of the second round later.
Union Berlin will focus only in domestic league after knock out from UEFA Champion League, its seems little benefit for Union Berlin keep focus in domestic league looking current their position standings left few points from relegated playoff round team. Little disappointed with Union Berlin performance in this season and become one of Bundesliga teams failed reach to 16 of round depend other three teams Bundesliga success raise to knock out round.
Union Berlin have improving their performance if won't relegated in this season because teams on relegated standings awhile have fewest points difference with Union Berlin, loss points on upcoming match will make Union Berlin have drop to relegation standings position.

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December 15, 2023, 07:52:31 AM
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Dortmund have been really bad in the Bundesliga for many weeks. They were able to collect only four points in their last four league games. This caused them to fall behind the championship race very much as well. They are doing much better in the Champions League actually. That performance helped them even finish the group as the leader.  Smiley

However they had better start performing better than this in the Bundesliga. Even the fight for top 4 will be really challenging for them as it seems. Stuttgart and Leipzig both are going on much better than Dortmund in the league. Leipzig are also competing in the Champions League in the end but they are handling these two tournaments more effectively.

@Velvet78 it’s clear that they need reinforcements and thus I wonder if they’ll get Sancho back on loan because it’s a deal that’ll help both the parties. Furthermore if they decide against strengthening in the January window then I feel that they’ll be taking a very big risk which could effect their season because I highly doubt that they can win the champions league this season.
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December 15, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
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The team that the previous season was able to penetrate the top 4 in the Bundesliga but now they have to fight to escape the relegation zone. This was completely below my expectations. It's very sad that they have performed so poorly this season. I don't know if it was because they were competing in the Lica Champions that it caused them to be in lower performance in the Bundesliga because the players were tired. But it seems like that can't be the reason. But if I look back a few seasons, is this the first time Union Berlin has played in the Champions League?
It seems yes, and because the lack of experience in the Champions League has also prevented Union Berlin from qualifying for the next round and considering the decline in performance they have experienced this season is also a major highlight for Union Berlin. So those who previously fought for the UCL zone like last season have had to fight again not to be relegated from the Bundesliga this season because their performance is getting worse. And I think Union Berlin needs to play their money again in the upcoming transfer market in order to get their true performance.

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