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November 07, 2023, 07:42:35 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2023, 02:58:49 PM by tusandii
 #41561

To be honest I was not expecting to see this good performance from Bayern Munich in the game they against against Dortmund.
Dortmund had a good performance and got good results so far and they won many important games to make them race with the top team during this season but still, I think even in this season, Bayern Munich will be the first team in the Bundesliga and they will win the title.

Is very easy to predict yesterday's match because in terms of player quality Bayern Munich is far superior and in terms of performance Munich players are also stronger so I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern Munich were able to beat Dortmund and if we say about the Bundesliga title it seems too early because there is still Undefeated Leverkusen will be a strong challenger to Bayern Munich.
I was impressed to see Harry Kane's very good performance, being able to score 3 goals in 1 match and at first I doubted whether this player could appear strong because this was Harry Kane's first meeting with Dortmund but it turned out that the results were very satisfying and I was also impressed with Manuel Neuer who at that time saved the ball was kicked towards him.
I hope Dortmund's performance will be stable like this to immediately replace Leverkusen.

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November 07, 2023, 09:23:25 PM
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I still feel optimistic that VfB will improve again in future matches, the consecutive defeats in two matches against Hoffenheim and Heidenheim must be quickly forgotten. They still haven't lost their place in the top four of the standings, and I don't think their two defeats are the end of their positive trend this season.

I was quite impressed with VfB this season, because it started its campaign in a very different way to last season. We know that VfB ended the season in 16th position in the standings, which means one level above the relegation zone last season, so if you look at the consistency of their current performance, they deserve appreciation. Yes, I agree that it will be very difficult to win the Bundesliga trophy, the most realistic thing that is their target is to finish in the top four of the standings.
But it will indeed be more complicated for Stuttgart in the current state because after all seeing from what happened with 2 consecutive defeats now will clearly destabilize the team. In addition, for the next 5 matches it will also be complicated for them because there are Dortmund, Frankfurt, Werder, Leverkusen and Bayern who are ready to tackle Stuttgart to get points.
Next week's match there is Dortmund who definitely wants something better as well as retaliation after losing the big match against Bayern. for Frankfurt and Werder this can still be Stuttgart maximize it's just that for Leverkusen and Bayern after this I think it's difficult.
If in the end Stuttgart is unable to get out of this zone then it will definitely be complicated for them in consistency of performance.
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November 07, 2023, 09:34:11 PM
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But it will indeed be more complicated for Stuttgart in the current state because after all seeing from what happened with 2 consecutive defeats now will clearly destabilize the team. In addition, for the next 5 matches it will also be complicated for them because there are Dortmund, Frankfurt, Werder, Leverkusen and Bayern who are ready to tackle Stuttgart to get points.
Next week's match there is Dortmund who definitely wants something better as well as retaliation after losing the big match against Bayern. for Frankfurt and Werder this can still be Stuttgart maximize it's just that for Leverkusen and Bayern after this I think it's difficult.
If in the end Stuttgart is unable to get out of this zone then it will definitely be complicated for them in consistency of performance.
The problem with most of this rising clubs is consistency, they might try so hard to do well at the early stages of the league but fail to keep up when the league starts getting tougher, maybe due to Fatigue, injury crisis or bookings but in the case of Stuttgart they've suffered alot of injury crisis recently especially the one of their star player Guirassy that's really affected them so bad cause he's their goal getter.

 With the teams you listed I don't think they'll survive those matches cause they're not in a very good form currently and would be facing about 4 big teams that would really pressure them to the the 3 points, maybe they could survive Werder Bremen but I doubt if they'll survive  Borrussia Dortmund, Frankfurt,  Leverkusen and Bayern, especially Bayern and Leverkusen they could really drop to mid table.
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November 07, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
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Bayern Munich have always been the best side when it comes to comparison between Dortmund, they have dominated the league countless times and last weekend was proof of what they can do and not do.
It was such a great night  for Harry Kane for him to score three gold goals against a big club like Dortmund without minding  the humiliations he has set up on the Dortmund fans  He has to be the best player signed in that league and in the world he has scored more goals and gave more assist in Europe.
Xabi Alonso was one time Munich midfielder he should not have forgotten how it is when they chased the first position.  Since he has the experience I will like his club to support the manger so be can bring in players to hold the position till the end of the season.
Definitely I didn't expect any less from Bayern Munich because I knew they were in their very good form and were ready to gave Dortmund in that match, they did showed that they remained superior in the bundesliga this season as they have always done in previous season.

Dortmund wasn't in their bad form either and I expected more from Dortmund but they happened to put up a weak resistance against Munich.  Before that game I had hoped that Dortmund was a strong team and wouldn't concede such amount of goals in a match against Munich. They had been performing well enough in the bundesliga. I think this has to be one of the toughest team Dortmund will have to fave this season in the bundesliga.

That's not right to expect more from Dortmund against a team like Bayern Munich however they could lose the game with a better result but I think considering the money they spent in Bayern Munich and the potential they have in this team, that's pretty much normal for us to see Bayern Munich winning this match against Dortmund.
Dortmund is a team that prefers to pay attention to earning more money from selling the players they have and I think achieving the Bundesliga title in not the first priority for them.

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November 07, 2023, 10:10:26 PM
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But it will indeed be more complicated for Stuttgart in the current state because after all seeing from what happened with 2 consecutive defeats now will clearly destabilize the team. In addition, for the next 5 matches it will also be complicated for them because there are Dortmund, Frankfurt, Werder, Leverkusen and Bayern who are ready to tackle Stuttgart to get points.
Next week's match there is Dortmund who definitely wants something better as well as retaliation after losing the big match against Bayern. for Frankfurt and Werder this can still be Stuttgart maximize it's just that for Leverkusen and Bayern after this I think it's difficult.
If in the end Stuttgart is unable to get out of this zone then it will definitely be complicated for them in consistency of performance.

I also believe this next five matches will actually test their confidence and how they are prepared to fight for that top four spot. If you look at the four out of the five clubs they are going to play against only Werder Bremen has actually failed to make a champions league appearance for a very long time, the rest are definitely regulars and will be looking to knock off Stuttgart for them to make their claim.

Few weeks ago I would have predicted Stuttgart to go head to head with any of this club including Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen but as things stands now i believe they will struggle in those matches and would only cough out a win against Werder Bremen but the rest will be a tussle. My reasons is once you’re struggling to score goals even wit the high number of chances created then it becomes difficult to win against an imposing opponent like the other four clubs. Guirassy would have been a huge weapon but they don’t him to use











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November 07, 2023, 10:13:29 PM
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]It is very easy to predict yesterday's match because in terms of player quality Bayern Munich is far superior and in terms of performance Munich players are also stronger so I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern Munich were able to beat Dortmund and if we say about the Bundesliga title it seems too early because there is still Undefeated Leverkusen will be a strong challenger to Bayern Munich.
I agree that Bayern Munich may be experiencing than Dortmund but I don't agree that they are more superior, Dortmund would have probably been superior than Munich at some point if not that they mostly sell their players and they haven't been poor this season in their performance.

They are not equal in strength with Munich at The moment but they are not to be considered that poor because so far they have really been in good form from the start of the season as they have never gone below top ten, they were just unlucky with Munich els they shouldn't be conceding such number of goals. I believe they will get better subsequently, I had wish they become so good they get to counted with Leverkusen to win the league title this season, we have been too used to Munich winning.

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November 07, 2023, 10:27:03 PM
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That's not right to expect more from Dortmund against a team like Bayern Munich however they could lose the game with a better result but I think considering the money they spent in Bayern Munich and the potential they have in this team, that's pretty much normal for us to see Bayern Munich winning this match against Dortmund.
Dortmund is a team that prefers to pay attention to earning more money from selling the players they have and I think achieving the Bundesliga title in not the first priority for them.

Borrusia Dortmund might explore within range to compete with the English team in UCL this season. I'm unable to channel my sights to Germany league. Edin Terzic's performance in the Bundesliga is fairly unsatisfactory because they frequently lose points in the Bundesliga rather than the UEFA Champions League, where everyone takes their opponents seriously. Borrusia Dortmund lost 4 nil to Bayern Munich, which may seem unbelievable to some supporters, but this is football, and we must always be prepared to accept both bad and good results which triggered in every game.

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November 07, 2023, 11:12:25 PM
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I was surprised Dortmund lost 4 goals and couldn't make a goal. Even from the start I was sure that at least Dortmund could draw. I see the actual stats there is not much difference in ball possession. It's just that Bayern is more effective, 5 shots on goal 4 become goals. After losing in the DFB Pokal 1-3 to Saarbrucken, it seems Munich is not too influential. Harry Kane was also outstanding, three goals and that proves he is Munich's best transfer. He played so amazingly. Every game he is more and more integrated with the team.

But basically Dortmund didn't play very badly either this match because anyway, Dortmund only weak or didn't have a good shot on target this match. But for other statistics, at least Dortmund can still provide good resistance too. So ya, with statistics like that then Dortmund should not lose with such a big score and moreover, this match Dortmund played at home. But with this result, it is clear that Bayern Munich is really focused on maintaining its consistency in the Bundesliga, because Bayer Leverkusen is also still firmly at the top of the Bundesliga standings. Therefore, it is appropriate for Bayern Munich to be able to keep the points gap with Bayer Leverkusen not to widening.

Regarding Leverkusen, I think the performance Xabi Alonso had in this team was really good and now Leverkusen is in first place in the Bundesliga table while didn't spend too much money like Bayern Munich did this season with Tuchel and there is still a two-point gap between them and Leverkusen.
Also, the next game for Leverkusen in the Bundesliga is not hard because Union Berlin didn't start the season well and they had a disappointing performance so far.

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November 07, 2023, 11:55:40 PM
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But it will indeed be more complicated for Stuttgart in the current state because after all seeing from what happened with 2 consecutive defeats now will clearly destabilize the team. In addition, for the next 5 matches it will also be complicated for them because there are Dortmund, Frankfurt, Werder, Leverkusen and Bayern who are ready to tackle Stuttgart to get points.
Next week's match there is Dortmund who definitely wants something better as well as retaliation after losing the big match against Bayern. for Frankfurt and Werder this can still be Stuttgart maximize it's just that for Leverkusen and Bayern after this I think it's difficult.
If in the end Stuttgart is unable to get out of this zone then it will definitely be complicated for them in consistency of performance.

I also believe this next five matches will actually test their confidence and how they are prepared to fight for that top four spot. If you look at the four out of the five clubs they are going to play against only Werder Bremen has actually failed to make a champions league appearance for a very long time, the rest are definitely regulars and will be looking to knock off Stuttgart for them to make their claim.

Few weeks ago I would have predicted Stuttgart to go head to head with any of this club including Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen but as things stands now i believe they will struggle in those matches and would only cough out a win against Werder Bremen but the rest will be a tussle. My reasons is once you’re struggling to score goals even wit the high number of chances created then it becomes difficult to win against an imposing opponent like the other four clubs. Guirassy would have been a huge weapon but they don’t him to use
This will obviously affect Stuttgart's stability in the end, because after all, looking at the current situation for them, especially after 2 consecutive defeats and then will face several matches with clubs that are currently very good in terms of performance such as Dortmund, Bayern and Leverkusen, this will disrupt their condition from the consistency and mentality of the players.
Because for Frankfurt and Werder Bremen they will still be able to compete but honestly facing Dortmund, Leverkusen and Bayern I doubt the situation of Stuttgart even though they are still very impressive at the beginning of the season but facing a big club with tremendous improvement like Bayern or Leverkusen this will clearly be the difference.
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It is very easy to predict yesterday's match because in terms of player quality Bayern Munich is far superior and in terms of performance Munich players are also stronger so I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern Munich were able to beat Dortmund and if we say about the Bundesliga title it seems too early because there is still Undefeated Leverkusen will be a strong challenger to Bayern Munich.

Yeah Bayern Munich has experience and tactical players no doubt about it but it takes consistency to achieve a trophy, Bayern Munich squad is almost as equal as Manchester city squad as the two clubs has extremely world class players that are ready to devour any team at sight but I just wish Bayern Leverkusen will continue in this good form so that that can end this Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga as the league is becoming boring since it looks like Bayern Munich is the owner of Bundesliga because they have been claiming the trophy year in year out so if other clubs doesn't rise to challenge bayern munich then am afraid the league may not longer be interesting again.











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November 08, 2023, 02:31:48 AM
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Regarding Leverkusen, I think the performance Xabi Alonso had in this team was really good and now Leverkusen is in first place in the Bundesliga table while didn't spend too much money like Bayern Munich did this season with Tuchel and there is still a two-point gap between them and Leverkusen.
Also, the next game for Leverkusen in the Bundesliga is not hard because Union Berlin didn't start the season well and they had a disappointing performance so far.

Bayern Leverkusen is one of Bundesliga teams after Bayern Munich keep unbeaten until playing 10 matches and managed top standings behind 2 points gap from second placed. Its looks amazing with Xavi Alonso success return Leverkusen to top performed although he hasn't spent much money for latest window transfer opening. Right now Bundesliga is not only Bayern Munich but also have Bayern Leverkusen and waiting until how many matches later consistency performance from Leverkusen, will give huge pressure until end season for leading top position or they will loss compete second half season above.

I am excited if Leverkusen can destroy Bundesliga as farmer league label with Bayern Munich only become the winner, most fantastic achievement in the end of this season Leverkusen become the champion of Bundesliga.

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Bayern Leverkusen is one of Bundesliga teams after Bayern Munich keep unbeaten until playing 10 matches and managed top standings behind 2 points gap from second placed. Its looks amazing with Xavi Alonso success return Leverkusen to top performed although he hasn't spent much money for latest window transfer opening. Right now Bundesliga is not only Bayern Munich but also have Bayern Leverkusen and waiting until how many matches later consistency performance from Leverkusen, will give huge pressure until end season for leading top position or they will loss compete second half season above.

I am excited if Leverkusen can destroy Bundesliga as farmer league label with Bayern Munich only become the winner, most fantastic achievement in the end of this season Leverkusen become the champion of Bundesliga.
Leverkusen's strength has been visible since last season when Xavi Alonso first arrived to handle this team and this season his performance has increased.
If we look at strength, of course Leverkusen is still slightly below Bayern Munich, but now we can see the team's consistency every week so that Leverkusen is superior in the standings.
If Leverkusen is consistent then I am sure they can break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title this season.

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November 08, 2023, 05:01:07 AM
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]It is very easy to predict yesterday's match because in terms of player quality Bayern Munich is far superior and in terms of performance Munich players are also stronger so I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern Munich were able to beat Dortmund and if we say about the Bundesliga title it seems too early because there is still Undefeated Leverkusen will be a strong challenger to Bayern Munich.
I agree that Bayern Munich may be experiencing than Dortmund but I don't agree that they are more superior, Dortmund would have probably been superior than Munich at some point if not that they mostly sell their players and they haven't been poor this season in their performance.

They are not equal in strength with Munich at The moment but they are not to be considered that poor because so far they have really been in good form from the start of the season as they have never gone below top ten, they were just unlucky with Munich els they shouldn't be conceding such number of goals. I believe they will get better subsequently, I had wish they become so good they get to counted with Leverkusen to win the league title this season, we have been too used to Munich winning.
If Dortmund didn't sell its talented players, maybe Dortmund could beat Bayern Munich and compete for the title in the Bundesliga, but unfortunately Dortmund is more concerned with their business than maintaining their strength to compete.
In contrast to Bayern Munich, which recruits players to strengthen their squad for matches in the Bundesliga and Champions League. Bayern Munich is more concerned with the quality of their players and less concerned with business interests.

Dortmund is not too bad because Dortmund has only experienced 1 defeat from Bayern Munich in the currently 10 matches so it can be interpreted that Dortmund is still strongst enough to be in the top 5 at the moments
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November 08, 2023, 05:39:09 AM
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Yeah Bayern Munich has experience and tactical players no doubt about it but it takes consistency to achieve a trophy, Bayern Munich squad is almost as equal as Manchester city squad as the two clubs has extremely world class players that are ready to devour any team at sight but I just wish Bayern Leverkusen will continue in this good form so that that can end this Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga as the league is becoming boring since it looks like Bayern Munich is the owner of Bundesliga because they have been claiming the trophy year in year out so if other clubs doesn't rise to challenge bayern munich then am afraid the league may not longer be interesting again.
I also hope that this season another team will be able to win the Bundesliga, although I also don't doubt Bayern Munich's ability in that regard. Because so far Bayern Munich is still quite good and the team has also proven their abilities in every season in the Bundesliga by winning successive trophies. However, if this season there is another team like Bayer Leverkusen who is able to break Bayern Munich's dominance by becoming champion, it will be new history for the team that is able to win the trophy this season. So Bayer Leverkusen must be able to maintain its consistency this season if it wants to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

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November 08, 2023, 06:15:03 AM
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If you follow team quotes, you should know that 1.25 is a fairly generous odds for Bayern. Usually, even if they are temporarily not in the lead or even in a full-fledged crisis like last season, their quotes do not deviate much from 1.06 if we are talking about a long distance. I think this is the last opportunity this season to place a bet with such good odds on Bayern.

I gave your considerations some thought and you are probably right. I can't tell if it usually was around 1.06 as you said, was it? Do you mean in the middle of the season when Bayern was already ahead a few points?

But 1.25 is quite high because Leverkusen going to have some weak games soon isn't unlikely. But I guess this is still the but that the bookies include in their calculations. What if Leverkusen plays the best season in their club history? I think it is the consistency that the bookies integrate in their calculations here.

Almost the entire first half of the season, even when Bayern was slipping and lagging behind the leaders, its quotes did not change - they were favorites with a +- that coefficient. I remember this well because I wrote all the time that it was unfair and even disrespectful to other clubs.
If this is the best season in Bayer's history and Xabi Alonso really leads the club to the title, it will be legendary. Dortmund, by the way, was close to this last year, because before the World Cup break they were already excluded from the race, but then they were able to become leaders.

I see, I haven't really been paying attention to their odds as I usually never consider them for bets, but this seems to be a bet that could be built into a multi bet or something although for a multi bet there is always the time factor. I guess only high stakes players would be willing to wait for a 1.25 to be paid at out at the end of the season.

But I agree that Bayern is probably going to win this again as it is as simple as what likelihood tells us. When last season isn't enough to bring forward a new title winner, then what kind of season do we need to see a winner different from Bayern Munich? ...

And yes, it would require a legendary Leverkusen season to see a new title winner, but legendary doesn't only mean gather more points than ever before, but stay ahead of Bayern Munich and that could become very difficult if Bayern now finds their rhythm.

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November 08, 2023, 06:18:22 AM
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Bayern Leverkusen is one of Bundesliga teams after Bayern Munich keep unbeaten until playing 10 matches and managed top standings behind 2 points gap from second placed. Its looks amazing with Xavi Alonso success return Leverkusen to top performed although he hasn't spent much money for latest window transfer opening. Right now Bundesliga is not only Bayern Munich but also have Bayern Leverkusen and waiting until how many matches later consistency performance from Leverkusen, will give huge pressure until end season for leading top position or they will loss compete second half season above.

I am excited if Leverkusen can destroy Bundesliga as farmer league label with Bayern Munich only become the winner, most fantastic achievement in the end of this season Leverkusen become the champion of Bundesliga.
Leverkusen's strength has been visible since last season when Xavi Alonso first arrived to handle this team and this season his performance has increased.
If we look at strength, of course Leverkusen is still slightly below Bayern Munich, but now we can see the team's consistency every week so that Leverkusen is superior in the standings.
If Leverkusen is consistent then I am sure they can break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title this season.
It is true that Leverkusen strength has increased significantly this season because of Xabi Alonso, who has made many changes from his playing style the composition of his players to the strategy he uses in each match which can be very effective in dominating the game to win.

But for now if they meet in match, there is possibility that Leverkusen can beat Bayern Munich because their meeting in week four only ended in draw and now Leverkusen is much better than before.
Moreover, Xabi Alonso also wants title that he can achieve with Leverkusen and so there consistent playing performance that is always maintained to realize the achievement of winning the Bundesliga title this season.

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November 08, 2023, 06:28:39 AM
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To be honest I was not expecting to see this good performance from Bayern Munich in the game they against against Dortmund.
Dortmund had a good performance and got good results so far and they won many important games to make them race with the top team during this season but still, I think even in this season, Bayern Munich will be the first team in the Bundesliga and they will win the title.

It is very easy to predict yesterday's match because in terms of player quality Bayern Munich is far superior and in terms of performance Munich players are also stronger so I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern Munich were able to beat Dortmund and if we say about the Bundesliga title it seems too early because there is still Undefeated Leverkusen will be a strong challenger to Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich is one of the advantageous teams in the long league marathon. Leverkusen had a great start to the season with Xabi, but I don't know how long they can keep it up. Bayern Munich is the team with the highest chance of winning the championship in the long race. Also, there will be a UCL match against Galatasaray today. If they win this, they will be guaranteed to get out of the group.

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November 08, 2023, 07:26:34 AM
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Regarding Leverkusen, I think the performance Xabi Alonso had in this team was really good and now Leverkusen is in first place in the Bundesliga table while didn't spend too much money like Bayern Munich did this season with Tuchel and there is still a two-point gap between them and Leverkusen.
Also, the next game for Leverkusen in the Bundesliga is not hard because Union Berlin didn't start the season well and they had a disappointing performance so far.


I see some pretty great clubs last season at the moment not being able to compete much. Including Union Berlin, Mainz, Cologne. I don't look at what problems happen to the team. But I was quite surprised by Stuttgart they were able to play well and are still at the top of the temporary class.
Bayern Munich and Leverkusen were quite stable teams last season, so I understand they have good quality players. Indeed, Bayern Munich relies on money to buy players, but it is natural in football. Those two teams also have a record of never losing in the Bundesliga at the moment. So, now the challenge is the stability of the game until the end, those who are able to manage will be the Bundesliga champions. At the moment I am championing Bayern Munich, Dortmund and Leverkusen not with Stuttgart.

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November 08, 2023, 07:31:19 AM
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Leverkusen will gets easy match on week 11 Union Berlin and this season was very special for Union Berlin because finally they can able to playing at Champion league but i don't know why since Union Berlin playing at that competition they were unable to performing well for each matches and at Bundesliga Union Berlin last win was happened on August and since that month Union Berlin always be lose on champion league, DFB pokal and Bundesliga even against weak teams such as Heidenheim or Darmstadt they have to lose and in the last 5 matches in all competitions Union Berlin has poor records because they were unable to scores so these records makes me sure Leverkusen will be able to resumes their winning streak and possibly win with big scores from Union Berlin

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November 08, 2023, 08:11:24 AM
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Leverkusen will gets easy match on week 11 Union Berlin and this season was very special for Union Berlin because finally they can able to playing at Champion league but i don't know why since Union Berlin playing at that competition they were unable to performing well for each matches and at Bundesliga Union Berlin last win was happened on August and since that month Union Berlin always be lose on champion league, DFB pokal and Bundesliga even against weak teams such as Heidenheim or Darmstadt they have to lose and in the last 5 matches in all competitions Union Berlin has poor records because they were unable to scores so these records makes me sure Leverkusen will be able to resumes their winning streak and possibly win with big scores from Union Berlin

The reason at Union Berlin is relatively simple. They are no longer a team. They have bought experienced players like Gosens, Bonucci and Volland this season. They were allowed to play immediately. Previously, they had always bought players who were not so well-known or had not played much. They built them up slowly and integrated them into the team. That was their philosophy. But this time everything is different (probably because of the Champions League). It is no longer a unit that has grown.
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