Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Chilwell]

Yes, Leverkusen did record a history of being undefeated in a full season when winning the Bundesliga title, but Bayern Munich also recorded a history of winning the Bundesliga title for more than a decade from the 2012/13 season to 2022/23, so which do you think is greater?

We don't need to judge which team is better. We will look at the team's performance in each season. At least, that's the perspective of a bettor. History can be a reference, but the team's current performance will be considered more. 
We know Munich's dominance, and in fact, that makes the Bundesliga not good enough. Other teams are not competitive and consistent enough as Munich's challengers.

You are absolutely right that is why we don't get enough joy when it comes to Bundesliga, there's no competition at all which was why I normally refer to the league as a league for Bayern Munich because they always it. The only competition that they have consistently is Borussia Dortmund and even them are not up to the stage again that is why bayern Munich win bundesliga title without any challenges.

Bayer Leverkusen just finished their one time season and they could not be able to come back again after that particular season. I know the only advantage Bayern Munich is having over others is because they have money to compete with the other leagues when it comes to buying players, while others cannot afford it that is why they stand the chance to be winning every season.

[W Jr.]

This is the exact reason the German bundesliga is not as exciting as other top five european leagues because even in their worst form, they will still manages to win the league because they have no rivals. And if any team spring up to challenge them this season, the team will be severely weakened the following season, because Bayern munich and other top teams will start signing their best players, this is why I can not take the German bundesliga as serious as the Spanish laliga or the English premier league.

If you say the Bundesliga isn't as exciting as the other top five European leagues, does that include the French Ligue 1 too? Personally, I think the Bundesliga is way better than Ligue 1, which just gets dominated by the exact same team every single year. To me, Bundesliga is still much more interesting. Of course, neither of them can match La Liga or the Premier League, but there is a clear reason for that other clubs in Germany and France simply don't have the financial muscle to sign tons of top tier talent. Bayern Munich and PSG always have the money to bring in world class players, so it makes perfect sense that they always dominate. Even when a random club steps up to challenge them, it’s never something they can sustain year after year.

I agree, the Bundesliga is a more exciting and competitive league. Although there's more competition in France this year, I generally think Germany offers more enjoyable football. Except for Bayern Munich's matches, I observe that the competition is at a higher level. To be honest, apart from Bayern Munich, the other teams' goals at the start of the season are usually second place. If they win the championship, it's a historic victory, as in the case of Bayer Leverkusen.

[$weetne$$]

Before Bayern will have a strong opponent in Bundesliga, it's going to take a lot of time, even Leverkusen that goes hard on them last two season knows what they went through but now they are nowhere to be found. The person that even made it possible has left. However, as they are doing better I want them to reposition their place in the Champions League, they always go far only to be removed by a team that they could have won with ease.

Currently Bayern Munich is better funded, has got better players and a very solid depth as compared to that of any team in the Bundesliga currently, so it is very true and possible that all other teams may get to find it difficult to become a strong opposition enough against Bayern Munich. They may attempt it just like Leverkusen did but the difference will always be in their consistency, they may eventually not be consistent enough to maintain it and Bayern Munich been consistent will take over again like they did few seasons back after Leverkusen won the title.

[GiftedMAN]

Otherwise they would also have a really strong squad now. They have sold many talents so far just like Dortmund have done. This is keeping Bayern Munich comfortable in their domination of the Bundesliga.

It seems as if other teams in the Bundesliga are frustrated and reluctant to compete for titles, preferring to focus on developing talented players and then selling them to make money. 

So, mentality is also a factor here. As a team that has never won the Bundesliga, they often lack a strong plan to compete for the title, instead pursuing titles in other competitions.

Teams like Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen are the two teams that is fond of building players and then selling them off instead of using them to challenge Bayern Munich and then compete with for the title. Dortmund was known as a team that usually has good numbers of stars but ever since they decided to be selling their players instead of keeping them in the team, it's difficult for them to compete for the title again same thing goes to Bayer Leverkusen, they had the opportunity of keeping their players when they won the league but since they sold the players, they will need to replace them before winning the league again.

[dezoel]

Bayern Munich really has a very great dominance in this season of Bundesliga which makes them more efficient. And Bayern Munich give tough time to all the other teams in the Bundesliga and no team is proven themselves as the great opponent of the Bayern Munich. And this dominance of the Bayern Munich was not only in this season in fact they were dominating Bundesliga consecutively from some years. But if we talk about Bayern Leverkusen they were good in the Bundesliga under the supervision of xabi Alonso and this is also said over here that  Bayern Leverkusen still holds their great record of not losing even a single match in his certain year of winning and Bayern not break this record despite having a heavy influence on all the teams in Bundesliga.

Sometimes, there is really nothing that you can do about it. Leverkusen tried it and did it once, got very lucky and won on a year Bayern did badly.

Not many people remember this, but on the year Leverkusen won, Bayern wasn't like some very close place second, not like Leverkusen barely won, we are talking about third place, and yes, Bayern became third place that year and was so far away from Leverkusen and had no chance.

You need a season like that for someone else to win and that's very rare.

[KTChampions]

Leipzig had a really decent season this time unlike their 7th finish in the previous season... They are actually not a broke team financially but they can't compete with teams like Bayern Munich in squad building. 

Otherwise they would also have a really strong squad now. They have sold many talents so far just like Dortmund have done. This is keeping Bayern Munich comfortable in their domination of the Bundesliga.

It was hard to imagine that Leipzig would finish the season in third place after the first round, wasn't it? Let me remind everyone who forgot that in the first round, Bayern beat Leipzig with a score of 6-0  Of course, there was no talk of any competition here, but it’s good that Leipzig wasn’t broken after that and had a good season. Next season they need to fight for the top 4 again and try to get as far as possible in the Champions League, each game brings good money (and by the way, rating points that could give a 5th ticket to the Bundesliga).

[Velvet78]

It was hard to imagine that Leipzig would finish the season in third place after the first round, wasn't it? Let me remind everyone who forgot that in the first round, Bayern beat Leipzig with a score of 6-0  Of course, there was no talk of any competition here, but it’s good that Leipzig wasn’t broken after that and had a good season. Next season they need to fight for the top 4 again and try to get as far as possible in the Champions League, each game brings good money (and by the way, rating points that could give a 5th ticket to the Bundesliga).

Yeah that was really strange.    I mean it was the season opener and Leipzig lost like that. But it is always better that it happened early in the season.

You have lots of time to make up for that. Competing Bayer Munich is a really tough work. Dortmund did much better but they also failed...

[Inwestour]

I agree, the Bundesliga is a more exciting and competitive league. Although there's more competition in France this year, I generally think Germany offers more enjoyable football. Except for Bayern Munich's matches, I observe that the competition is at a higher level. To be honest, apart from Bayern Munich, the other teams' goals at the start of the season are usually second place. If they win the championship, it's a historic victory, as in the case of Bayer Leverkusen.

It is difficult to compare leagues directly. The Bundesliga may be slightly more entertaining because it is generally a higher scoring championship. The more goals there are, the more enjoyable matches tend to be for most fans. In France, teams usually place a greater emphasis on defensive organization, but I would not say that the Bundesliga has stronger competition. If you look at Ligue 1 and even at how Lens tried to challenge PSG this season, I would argue that the level of competition was no worse than in Germany. As for the title race in the Bundesliga, I would say that it was virtually non existent.

[jakdanyel]

I don't expect a much different season than this next time. At least in terms of title race. There is literally no team to stop Bayern Munich while they are playing like this.

It is difficult to compare leagues directly. The Bundesliga may be slightly more entertaining because it is generally a higher scoring championship. The more goals there are, the more enjoyable matches tend to be for most fans. In France, teams usually place a greater emphasis on defensive organization, but I would not say that the Bundesliga has stronger competition. If you look at Ligue 1 and even at how Lens tried to challenge PSG this season, I would argue that the level of competition was no worse than in Germany. As for the title race in the Bundesliga, I would say that it was virtually non existent.

To me it's easy to compare leagues honestly.    The highest level of competition is in the PL. There are many championship favourites.

But do we see it in the Bundesliga? No, we don't. Bayern Munich dominate the league for so many years and rarely a different team surprise us.

[len01]

I don't expect a much different season than this next time. At least in terms of title race. There is literally no team to stop Bayern Munich while they are playing like this.

As long as Bayern's squad remains unchanged, Munich's dominance will remain. Unless Kane leaves Bayern in the next few seasons, and other key players, like Olise, also depart, other bundesliga teams will have a chance to break Bayern's dominance.

So the bundesliga will remain a farm league for the next few seasons.

[letteredhub]

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Last season dembele cannot be denied because just as you said there is no any player that come close to him and honestly he make a very good record for Paris Saint-Germain. I doubt him this season unless if he can do more in the World Cup because checking throughout his performance this season he did not make serious impact. There are a lot of things that are happening currently when it comes to rewarding this award, in some past years they didn't pay on their own interest bringing silly excuse which is not necessary. So many people were disappointed during the era of Schweinsteiger because the all thoughts that they will for once do Justice follow their arts and do what they want awarded it to Messi.

In my opinion I still think that Dembele deserves the award again this season as he was still instrumental towards the PSG team's victory in their domestic league title and the UCL. Remember he called the equaliser goal that took the game in the finals to extra time before it headed to the penalty shootout. Though since the season has to coincide with that of the World Cup, players contributions  would also be a measure to reckon with in voting for who best deserves it but I still have Dembele on high esteem for it

[Crytohillss]

Yes, Leverkusen did record a history of being undefeated in a full season when winning the Bundesliga title, but Bayern Munich also recorded a history of winning the Bundesliga title for more than a decade from the 2012/13 season to 2022/23, so which do you think is greater?

Bayern Leverkusen unbeaten title run was incredible but sustaining that level is much harder than achieving it once Xabi Alonso Play a big role in their success and replacing that kind of influence is never easy, Bayern Leverkusen have always found a way to regain control of the Bundesliga which is why consistent challengers are bso rare as for the champion league Bayern Leverkusen definitely have the quality to go all the way but knockout football can be unpredictable.

[GiftedMAN]

I don't expect a much different season than this next time. At least in terms of title race. There is literally no team to stop Bayern Munich while they are playing like this.

As long as Bayern's squad remains unchanged, Munich's dominance will remain. Unless Kane leaves Bayern in the next few seasons, and other key players, like Olise, also depart, other bundesliga teams will have a chance to break Bayern's dominance.

So the bundesliga will remain a farm league for the next few seasons.

even if Bayern Munich decide to let Harry Kane leave the team this season they still have the best squad depth to win the league and continue to dominate the league next season. But if Kane and Olise leave next season without having a good replacement then it's going to be difficult for Bayern Munich to be very strong and other teams may stand a chance to battle them because they will not be the way they were when the two players were in the team.

[Slow death]

To me it's easy to compare leagues honestly.    The highest level of competition is in the PL. There are many championship favourites.

But do we see it in the Bundesliga? No, we don't. Bayern Munich dominate the league for so many years and rarely a different team surprise us.

In the case of the Bundesliga, in the years before 2010 the league was competitive, with other teams focusing heavily on winning the title. It's true that Bayern was strong at that time, but the other teams also fought for the title. However, in 2013, the focus of the other teams shifted to buying cheap players and then selling them for very high prices.

It's not because the other teams can't fight for the title; they simply lack the interest. So Bayern, which focuses more on the title, will continue to dominate the Bundesliga, while the remaining teams will continue to sell their good players. This is different from what happens in Ligue 1, where the other teams haven't even managed to sign good cheap players to sell them for a high price.


The Bayern president is determined to win more titles and conquer the European Champions League; he is not greedy for a large sum of money by selling Bayern players, as can be seen in this news article He didn't sell Michael Olise, and that was a very wise decision.

[CageMabok]

Currently Bayern Munich is better funded, has got better players and a very solid depth as compared to that of any team in the Bundesliga currently, so it is very true and possible that all other teams may get to find it difficult to become a strong opposition enough against Bayern Munich. They may attempt it just like Leverkusen did but the difference will always be in their consistency, they may eventually not be consistent enough to maintain it and Bayern Munich been consistent will take over again like they did few seasons back after Leverkusen won the title.

The problem lies in team consistency in the Bundesliga, which is driven by the quality of the players within the team. And what Bayern Munich has shown in recent seasons, including last season, is certainly a testament to the strength combined with a high level of consistency that has allowed Bayern Munich to win again and even be considered a favorite in last season's Champions League before being eliminated.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Currently Bayern Munich is better funded, has got better players and a very solid depth as compared to that of any team in the Bundesliga currently, so it is very true and possible that all other teams may get to find it difficult to become a strong opposition enough against Bayern Munich. They may attempt it just like Leverkusen did but the difference will always be in their consistency, they may eventually not be consistent enough to maintain it and Bayern Munich been consistent will take over again like they did few seasons back after Leverkusen won the title.

The problem lies in team consistency in the Bundesliga, which is driven by the quality of the players within the team. And what Bayern Munich has shown in recent seasons, including last season, is certainly a testament to the strength combined with a high level of consistency that has allowed Bayern Munich to win again and even be considered a favorite in last season's Champions League before being eliminated.

I think it's not about how consistency happens but because the financial difference is quite massive here and Bayern are benefiting from their dynasty when the Bundesliga always applies different rules for club owners where 50+1 which makes their financial situation look very far and the difference in player quality is certainly the starting point for the current Bayern dynasty.
Bayern are also very smart by implementing a strategy of buying players from rival clubs because not a few clubs that have higher opportunities actually have to return to the first step because some of their players move to Bayern. We can see Bayern's steps in the last decade how many players from Dortmund, Leipzig and even Leverkusen have moved which will indirectly make them stronger and rival clubs weaker.

[Adams0001]

Bayern Leverkusen unbeaten title run was incredible but sustaining that level is much harder than achieving it once Xabi Alonso Play a big role in their success and replacing that kind of influence is never easy, Bayern Leverkusen have always found a way to regain control of the Bundesliga which is why consistent challengers are bso rare as for the champion league Bayern Leverkusen definitely have the quality to go all the way but knockout football can be unpredictable.

Bayer Leverkusen have a good coach at that moment that is why they are doing very good and even get the opportunity to win the Bundesliga title and they let him leave to Real Madrid and they have not get a better coach like xabi Alonso anymore and that is why Leverkusen are just performing very poor in the league competition and not really doing well. Bayern Munich have take over the competition and he will be very difficult for any club to get  the chance to perform like them in the league competition. Doutmund are just the club that always challenge Bayern Munich but this days I see they are not doing well anymore.

[$weetne$$]

Bayern Leverkusen unbeaten title run was incredible but sustaining that level is much harder than achieving it once Xabi Alonso Play a big role in their success and replacing that kind of influence is never easy, Bayern Leverkusen have always found a way to regain control of the Bundesliga which is why consistent challengers are bso rare as for the champion league Bayern Leverkusen definitely have the quality to go all the way but knockout football can be unpredictable.

Attaining a particular height can often seem easier than maintaining the height and that is  exactly the experience Leverkusen seem to be having already, even when xabi stayed for the second season, he could not achieve such height the second  time because the real struggle is in the maintenance of such positions after attaining them just like Bayern Munich has been doing for the longest of time. It will take some really long time for Munich to finally get an actual top contender against them in the league.

[wakier]

Bayern Leverkusen unbeaten title run was incredible but sustaining that level is much harder than achieving it once Xabi Alonso Play a big role in their success and replacing that kind of influence is never easy, Bayern Leverkusen have always found a way to regain control of the Bundesliga which is why consistent challengers are bso rare as for the champion league Bayern Leverkusen definitely have the quality to go all the way but knockout football can be unpredictable.

Attaining a particular height can often seem easier than maintaining the height and that is  exactly the experience Leverkusen seem to be having already, even when xabi stayed for the second season, he could not achieve such height the second  time because the real struggle is in the maintenance of such positions after attaining them just like Bayern Munich has been doing for the longest of time. It will take some really long time for Munich to finally get an actual top contender against them in the league.

If Leverkusen still retained its good players, there was still a possibility that Leverkusen could defend the title while still being coached by Xabi Alonso, unfortunately Leverkusen sold some of its great players and replaced them with players whose abilities were not the same while Bayern Munich actually increased their strength so they could take over the Bundesliga title again, it was clearly Leverkusen fault for acting too rashly, it is not surprising that Leverkusen was unable to defend the Bundesliga title in the second season.

[free-bit.co.in]

If Leverkusen still retained its good players, there was still a possibility that Leverkusen could defend the title while still being coached by Xabi Alonso, unfortunately Leverkusen sold some of its great players and replaced them with players whose abilities were not the same while Bayern Munich actually increased their strength so they could take over the Bundesliga title again, it was clearly Leverkusen fault for acting too rashly, it is not surprising that Leverkusen was unable to defend the Bundesliga title in the second season.

Leverkusen sold the most important players in their squad. Naturally, it is impossible to make a suitable replacement for these players so quickly, at the same time finding new  replacements is also quite difficult, and requires a lot of money. Leverkusen is not a rich club that they can spend a large amount of money to buy players. They mainly sold players to  make money. Also, bayern munich was desperate to regain the bundesliga after  losing its dominance. They spent a  lot of money to build the squad. As a result, it was no longer possible for leverkusen to compete for the bundesliga title.