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September 18, 2015, 07:19:42 AM
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September 19, 2015, 06:13:01 AM
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MTgox was crucial in the early stages of bitcoin. It was one of the only ways to buy bitcoins at low risk. Don't forget that. Ofcourse they fucked up, but they were very very crucial.

If not for MtGox, there would have been other exchanges which would have developed.
MtGox had the first mover advantage and made full use of it (before they screwed up).
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September 19, 2015, 06:28:58 AM
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If there was no Mtgox ... ?...


then there would be another exchange that would have done something similar.

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September 19, 2015, 06:31:11 AM
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MTgox was crucial in the early stages of bitcoin. It was one of the only ways to buy bitcoins at low risk. Don't forget that. Ofcourse they fucked up, but they were very very crucial.

If not for MtGox, there would have been other exchanges which would have developed.
MtGox had the first mover advantage and made full use of it (before they screwed up).

Very correct. It was a business like the others. With the specifique that has cheated with the money of the customers. And has the CEO in the prison for this.
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September 19, 2015, 06:50:02 AM
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If there was no Mtgox ... ?...


then there would be another exchange that would have done something similar.

exactly..


Whatever. And no you haven’t been in bitcoin since 2010. Plus if you really feel the way you do. Then sell. Have conviction. If not keep pounding sand.
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September 19, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
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If there was no mt gox I'm sure we would have moved closer towards mainstream adoption compared to its current state right now. As far as i can see, the loss of trust and reputation from the scandal actually affected the community badly

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September 20, 2015, 01:13:18 PM
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MtGox played a very minor role in the price run up to $1200 in late 2013. It was China that drove up the price. While btc price was rising in the other exchanges, MtGox price was plunging. Months prior, MtGox had not been sending OUT money to its customers. It was evident to intelligent people that they were becoming insolvent and was dying.

MtGox did NOT cause the last ATH. The last ATH caused the death of MtGox.
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September 21, 2015, 09:31:00 PM
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As much as Mt. Gox has helped Bitcoin with being the first early exchange and then later with the alleged willy bot, it has also pulled us down with the hack, bad news reports and bad reputation that still follows us.

I would say that at the end it all balanced itself, minus this bad reputation that really hunts us, even today and it will hunt us in the future as well. So I would say the Bitcoin price would be a bit higher if it wasn't for the Mt. Gox.
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September 21, 2015, 10:49:22 PM
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Mt. Gox might have had their situation, but the loss in reputation is not that bad. The price might be about 30 USD higher or something around that ballpark

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September 21, 2015, 11:30:07 PM
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Mt. Gox might have had their situation, but the loss in reputation is not that bad. The price might be about 30 USD higher or something around that ballpark

I think that the price today without MTgox would be $2-$120 range.

the willy bot made all the speculators jump in and send it to $1000. Since then slowly those that bought in at high prices have sold off at losses and got out. hence the price going down to $200-$300 where it is being held by a few big market players.

it would go a lot lower if they did not intervene every time it goes below $200.

I think the longer term is still good for bitcoin and while I see buying more bitcoins at $200-$300 is currently overpriced I see the price going up about 2.2 times per annum since the $2 bottom so in a year or two the price might well be more "naturally" in the $200-$300 range so longer term holders will do well. (assuming we do not have another crash to about $60 which is what I see is todays equivalent to the $2 bottom - if that happens in may be some years before we get back to $200-$300.

AS another poster said bitcoins big selling point is that it is "sound money". That takes several steps of understanding for the average person to get that as fiat (and for protection gold) work well for them. I read recently an article that listed uber, airb&B and bitcoin all together as "disruptive' technologies.

But that is misleading in a way as the first two are at their heart cheaper alternatives ( taxis and hotel rooms) so they are easily grasped by people and have taken off. Seeing the need to get some "sound money" is much more complex. It is sort of "insurance' in case the system starts to collapse. But you need to know how easily the system can collapse to be motivated enough to get some of your savings into bitcoin.

Its a long road but time is on bitcoins side - gold was not rushed to get where it is

 
 
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