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August 27, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
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No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexpedience traders can make money based on his predictions.




I will make sure to watch the documentary!

I've just read about his October prediction and I believe that there is a possibility for that. I don't know why he doesn't talk about China though.

I get that if Europe starts collapsing and Japan follows them, the money can start flowing to USA, but where is China in the picture?

He talks a lot about China, and so far everything is quite accurate what he said about China. Again, he is mainly talking about macro economic trends and not daily events. And he doesn't say that on the 1st October the Dow Jones will be down 1000 points, but he predicts trends. He says the confidence will be start deteriorating so much from October and that will be the start of the next bigger than ever crisis. This combined with the sovereign debt problem, Euro issues, immigration issues, etc. will change everything. The money will flow from China as well to the US, there is no other place for the big money than the US bond and then the equity market. But after (2020) the money goes back to China and from that China will be the leader, and that will be the decline of western societies and economics.
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August 27, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
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Assuming China can still contact the western world from beneath the permanent concrete smog across the land, the dead environment, the shattered culture, and the layers of policing across every human synapse.
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August 28, 2015, 12:24:14 AM
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The thing is i dont get how a WW would developed in this day an age. If the countries start dropping bombs no one will be left to enjoy earth's resources. It only takes a country to start a nuclear blast and we are all fucked.
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August 28, 2015, 12:58:28 AM
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The thing is i dont get how a WW would developed in this day an age. If the countries start dropping bombs no one will be left to enjoy earth's resources. It only takes a country to start a nuclear blast and we are all fucked.

Well, worst years of 1st WW and 2nd WW weren't first ones... check any history book and you'll see what were the causes of start of both, specially the world scenario before it happened.

They even don't know how it will finish or what they should do to won or what enemy exactly got, and I think we are on same situation. It's impossible know what will happen, but one thing is for sure: that will be very heavy.

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August 28, 2015, 02:58:30 AM
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Seems that week it will remain over 3000, there are good news but not enought... We'll see what happens this weekend off-Markets, specially on BTC prize.

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August 28, 2015, 03:13:41 AM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Seems that he also went to jail for lying to investors

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August 28, 2015, 06:42:25 AM
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I hope does not happen
if it really happens to be very many casualties  Sad
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August 28, 2015, 07:13:58 AM
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Economic crisis is not the question ..but will all the money flow into Bitcoin ??
governments would do everything to stop it becaue of anonymity and Loss of power.

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August 28, 2015, 07:22:24 AM
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3rd world war probably going to happen between Arabs/Russians/China-Europe/USA.

Now world economy going down, another world war is inevitable.

USA needs to sell guns, people need to fire bullets, best solution for the economic crisis.



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August 28, 2015, 07:35:24 AM
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Economic crisis is not the question ..but will all the money flow into Bitcoin ??
governments would do everything to stop it becaue of anonymity and Loss of power.

They can't get in the way of innovation. It's like stopping the internet.

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August 28, 2015, 11:05:47 AM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Seems that he also went to jail for lying to investors

If it seems to you that he was lying to investors then you are looking at something different what actually happened.

Armstrong was jailed for 7 years for contempt of court. Basically he has refused to hand over tape conversations with journalists (as well as the source code of his economic model) so Judge Owen - according to many in the US one of the most corrupt judges ever - put him in jail for that. Without trial and any jury verdicts. The 7 years imprisonment without trial and any jury verdicts is the longest in the history of US justice system. In the meantime the FBI was continuously trying to get their hand on the source code of his economic model. During this judge Owen - who is well known to assists all kind of court cases that benefits Goldman Sachs and the likes - appointed Alan Cohen to receiver in the case. Currently Alan Cohen is the director of Goldman Sachs. Finally, after 7 years imprisonment that again, was without any charges and any evidence presented against Armstrong, the government said they will seek a 135 years sentence in a lengthy and expensive trial or Armstrong could plead guilty in conspiring with Republic Bank officers. Armstrong, who was sometimes kept in solitary confinement and was a broken man by then given up and pleaded guilty and after 11 years get out. Again, no evidence was ever presented that he has cheated anyone (Republic Bank admitted wrongdoing, but no Armstrong), but after 7 years imprisonment without trial he has just given up and took the guilty deal from the prosecutors.
Now he is a free man, all his clients who made billions of dollars profit in the last three decades by following his analyses are back to him and - despite the Goldman Sachs and banks controlled mainstream media never mention him - he is more influential ever. Many of the largest and most influential fund managers rely on his advices and analyses just like before he was jailed.

Anyway, Armstrong's economic model that predicts an inevitable crisis and possible military conflicts is very relevant to this thread, that's why I mentioned it here. Feel free to believe the Goldman Sachs mantra (you can see what the world became under their watch) - I believe in Armstrong's economic model which has been proven correct over and over in the last 30 years.


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August 28, 2015, 11:56:21 AM
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......

I'd have to strongly disgree.  To say that goes against what is currently happening.  US allowing/providing weapons to mexican drug cartels, syrian "moderate" rebels, all over africa...war and violence is increasing exponentially around the world.
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August 28, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......

Let's hope so but with people like Kim Jung Un in this world, you will never know what will happens.
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......

Let's hope so but with people like Kim Jung Un in this world, you will never know what will happens.

That is another good point, the leaders of the world in general are getting more power hungry, and more totalitarian.  Plus the nuclear arsenals are so spread that countries are talking about preemptive strikes, as if they can tell the future.

In addition, the citizens of the world are being dumbed down.  I mean hiliary is a candidate for president of the us?  are you kidding me?

I also think people are losing interest in world events/politics so much that they have no idea what is going on, even at their local level.
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Let's hope so but with people like Kim Jung Un in this world, you will never know what will happens.


People like that may appear to be nutters to us, but they're also very shrewd. He knows perfectly well he'd be squashed flat if he attempted to invade South Korea.

He gets what he wants from larger powers by agitating and threatening until someone appeases him.

Future warfare will become increasingly tribal, asymmetrical and by proxy. The eras of Big States facing off might be tailing off. Now it's all nipping at the edges.

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August 30, 2015, 10:42:37 PM
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I think this next finantial week (less than 3 hours to Shanghai Composite's opening) will be decisive for global economy.

If at end of week this Market is over 3500, my first post will be obsolet -but not false, I think is inevitable-; but if is under 3000, next movement -from China or US- will iniciate an economic collapse with all Markets making 'rollercoasting' very fast.

Using BTC value moving this weekend I think we are going on a good way, but never knows what should happen.

Keep an eye on it along this week, will be interesting to do.

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August 31, 2015, 09:15:17 PM
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......

Let's hope so but with people like Kim Jung Un in this world, you will never know what will happens.

That is another good point, the leaders of the world in general are getting more power hungry, and more totalitarian.  Plus the nuclear arsenals are so spread that countries are talking about preemptive strikes, as if they can tell the future.

In addition, the citizens of the world are being dumbed down.  I mean hiliary is a candidate for president of the us?  are you kidding me?

I also think people are losing interest in world events/politics so much that they have no idea what is going on, even at their local level.

North korea threats are empty though.

You see it every single time, and when a country is so poor and their citizens pretty much are half starved. Theres no way they have a reasonable military force.

Also we have the techology now that detects any nuclear threat before it happens w. our ships around south koreas water.
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August 31, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
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World War III never will happen because Human wisdom has upgraded ......

Let's hope so but with people like Kim Jung Un in this world, you will never know what will happens.

That is another good point, the leaders of the world in general are getting more power hungry, and more totalitarian.  Plus the nuclear arsenals are so spread that countries are talking about preemptive strikes, as if they can tell the future.

In addition, the citizens of the world are being dumbed down.  I mean hiliary is a candidate for president of the us?  are you kidding me?

I also think people are losing interest in world events/politics so much that they have no idea what is going on, even at their local level.

North korea threats are empty though.

You see it every single time, and when a country is so poor and their citizens pretty much are half starved. Theres no way they have a reasonable military force.

Also we have the techology now that detects any nuclear threat before it happens w. our ships around south koreas water.

I agree, I think they have enough power to strike fear into their own citizens, but know that they could not stand against larger countries that they try to provoke.

But, if he ever did go insane enough to strike another country, given how isolated they are from the rest of the world, I dont think they would last long in conflict.
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August 31, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
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This whole concept of world war 3, I really highly doubt.

We have an on-going war with "ISIS" that alone is costing us so much money. It just means we will settle it through inner deals what the presidents will do for each different country in exchange to avoid blood shed.

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