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September 11, 2015, 06:58:06 PM
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Sorry if this was asked but I missed it or if its somehow obvious and I just dont get it, but what is keeping me from

#1 vote
#2 send coins to newly generated address
#3 vote again
#4 goto #1

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 11, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2015, 04:43:04 PM by coalitionfor8mb
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Bitcoin is a mathematical money system and voting isn't the way mathematicians achieve consensus.

There must be a better way to do this, like figuring out the definition of Bitcoin first and then seeing what proposals fit the idea of Bitcoin moving forward better than others.
Who are mathematicians? Why do you think they should decide which of proposals fit the idea?
Without a vote how do you know there is consensus achieved?

Mathematicians are the ones who dig for the truth.
Once they reach that layer, they simply know they are there.
Theoretically you can achieve consensus all on your own.
But the challenge then becomes to let others see it as well.

I'm not saying that Bitcoin can't step out of its way as a result of popular vote.
It sure can, but the true path of the original Bitcoin isn't ambiguous.
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September 11, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
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Sorry if this was asked but I missed it or if its somehow obvious and I just dont get it, but what is keeping me from

#1 vote
#2 send coins to newly generated address
#3 vote again
#4 goto #1

Vote weight is calculated proportional to current balance of the address associated with the vote. So if you move your coins the vote will be revoked.
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September 16, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
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I suggest the following message syntax for voting anywhere in the internet for any BIP published on https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

The syntax is:
Code:
#BITCOINVOTE {vote version} {bitcoin address} {+|-|=}{BIP id} {+|-|=}{BIP id} ...
{signature}

For example:
Code:
#BITCOINVOTE 201508251200 12WRTDrnLy7FMHj8b4kNWPJgnDfseTK6cX =BIP100 +BIP101 -BIP102
H1TmFhlXT8vPnbWsLWDPs2qbWRWA1htZIuCd/Avts/OzaVsWfWcIzfOCqO9w/FmnQEkjve8UU4kZtEtoIN1CpEg=

[...]
Current results

BIP101  +2600.00 / -122.87
BIP100  +22.87 / -0.00
BIP102  +0.00 / -121.00
BIP103  +0.00 / -121.00
BIP106  +0.00 / -2600.00
Don't know if it's because I'm particularly clueless, but where should that signed message be posted? I see there are already some results so there must be a way, only it seems well hidden....

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September 16, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
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Don't know if it's because I'm particularly clueless, but where should that signed message be posted? I see there are already some results so there must be a way, only it seems well hidden....
I plan to add an option to dump the votes so anyone can verify them. But currently it's not a priority, because only a few people wished to vote. I think that to the end of the year there will be more people who want to take part in voting. Now I am working at creating the system of voting with cold wallets without getting the private keys.

Temporarily you can find signatures here: http://coinarchy.com/results
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September 16, 2015, 05:46:48 PM
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Thanks, I got it now. I got confused because your interface at coinarchy.com doesn't allow copy/pasting the signed text without clicking some buttons first.  Grin
I hope many people vote: even if the decision isn't necessarily decided straight from the poll, that would at least help to have an overview of what the community prefers.

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September 16, 2015, 06:16:53 PM
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voted with 0.03BTC   Cheesy

cool beans

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Who should decide how the bitcoin protocol will be changed?
i voted devs, and then i have no option to choose what i think

altho i think devs should ultimately decide on protocol changes, i do think they should consider Holders opinions.

it would be nice if voting devs didn't lock me out of expressing my BIP preferences

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September 16, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2015, 05:44:31 AM by nLockTime
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i voted devs, and then i have no option to choose what i think

altho i think devs should ultimately decide on protocol changes, i do think they should consider Holders opinions.
Certainly devs will technically implement one or another solution. I think that decision will be legitimate if a majority of holders choose the same decision or delegate their votes to the developers.

it would be nice if voting devs didn't lock me out of expressing my BIP preferences
Ok, If nobody objects. I have disabled the lock.
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September 20, 2015, 01:33:38 PM
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September 24, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
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Sorry if this was asked but I missed it or if its somehow obvious and I just dont get it, but what is keeping me from

#1 vote
#2 send coins to newly generated address
#3 vote again
#4 goto #1

Vote weight is calculated proportional to current balance of the address associated with the vote. So if you move your coins the vote will be revoked.


TechCrunch published an article a couple of days expanding on the CryptoVoter voting proposal.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/21/a-solution-to-bitcoins-governance-problem/

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