[MUST READ] Need 10 BTC Loan... Need help, please read...

[gkv9]

Begging is not allowed bro.

You don't have any reputation and one of the two people vouching for you makes loans to himself

You are wasting your time here asking for any kind of loan. If you can't offer any valuable collateral then you should ask your bank for a signature loan.

Dooglus might be able to give you a loan

God Bless You friend, nothing else to say...

[zz11]

Your reputation isn't enough to build confidence for lenders to give you a 10BTC loan especially without collateral..

[tmfp]

The money would be for teh funeral??

Somewhat, I mean some funds will be used for ritual procedures and remaining for some months to be secured by my side for me to be able to show my mother that my dad's still there with us, and I am capable of handling every situation that we are facing currently...

What does that even mean?

I lost my father a while ago, a hugely traumatic experience. I am trying to understand how I would have been prompted, in my grief, to go on an internet forum and ask for a $2,500 loan.
And I can't.

Hilarious has nailed the situation imo.
If you have any self respect or respect for the memory of your father, you should seriously think about deleting this thread.

[gkv9]

Your reputation isn't enough to build confidence for lenders to give you a 10BTC loan especially without collateral..

I know and I can understand, but all I have to say is, I have no collateral, but I will repay anyhow...
It's all about help, if done through heart, will even fructify my life...
Else, if it's not from heart, I BEG You to please don't send anything, as my days ain't good & I don't want to make them any more worse in any means...

Don't want anyone's help who's having wrong intentions in mind...

[gkv9]

What does that even mean?

I lost my father a while ago, a hugely traumatic experience. I am trying to understand how I would have been prompted, in my grief, to go on an internet forum and ask for a $2,500 loan.
And I can't.

Hilarious has nailed the situation imo.
If you have any self respect or respect for the memory of your father, you should seriously think about deleting this thread.

Thought I should ask community as I felt they are my family, but I guess I was wrong...
Anyways, don't teach me about respect, I have a lot for my father which is why I didn't beg for tips and went for loan, that too upon the suggestion of some highly reputed members...

Anyways, when it comes to self-respect, I am locking this thread and now I SERIOUSLY BEG EVERYONE TO PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY BTC TO MY ADDRESS, I WILL MANAGE ANYTHING ANYHOW FROM ANYWHERE...

You know what guys, it hurts... And I will always pray that God won't show you days I am suffering from...

God bless everyone...

[gkv9]

One more thing Mods, please delete this thread as now it's getting more harsh on me to even take it...
Now, it's about respect... Some people think I have no respect for my dad, so please delete this thread as it's not just about my reputation, it's about my Dad now...

I am not at all interested in getting anything from anyone here now...
Thanks a lot for all the insults you all did to me...
Will always remember this...

MODS, PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD...

[hilariousandco]

How is this any different from any other begging with a sob story? Why should anyone believe it? Do you have any reasonable proof of what you're claiming? It's silly to offer future signature payments over two years because signature campaigns could get banned long before that then what? How much do you normally earn from signature payments each month? Lets face it, it's not very likely you would repay 10btc if you got it, but you wont. At most you might get one or two people feeling sorry for you but no where near the amount of ten btc and trying to get smaller amounts from 100 users isn't going to work.

Ain't begging, but asking for help as this ain't just another story, but this is real life and I lost him in real life... I know what I am facing...

Your original request of my dad's just died, send me donations was begging whether you want to admit it or not. I've lost count of how many times people have a similar story. Granted, they usually make no offer to pay it back but even an offer is hollow until you do pay it back and many newbs who try get loans always promise to do so but we know they very likely wont.

ID as in death certificate? I think if you wanted to be taken seriously this would be a good idea but I still think you're wasting your time.

Not just death certificate, but even my and my father's identity proof such as election card & PAN card, and also electricity bill... As soon as I get the death certificate from Panchayat (Legal Government Authorities), I will upload it... Until then, I am ready to upload the certificate what Doctor wrote...

Well that will certainly add merit to your claims but I still don't think you're likely to get anywhere near the amount you are requesting if any at all.

Such as?

Marcotheminer & Muhammed Zakir are the two most reputable persons here who can vouch for me...

They can vouch for you in what way? They know that you're telling the truth and will pay the money back? Are they willing to stake their reputations on the line for this, or are you just saying you've previously borrowed and returned money from them so they can vouch for that?

They're pretty much all for gambling. I'm surprised you're even getting paid for those posts to be honest. What happens if your account gets banned for spamming? This really isn't a reasonable request at all.

Why do you think I am spamming??? I have been very honest by giving all my tips for free just like every other tipster who is doing the same thing & I know I have made many posts in gambling thread, but does that mean that I am a total gambler??? How can you judge me based on my posts???

I didn't say you were spamming but your posts are not exactly of the highest caliber either, but once you have a debt of 12btc you need to quickly pay back things will very likely change. You will be under immense pressure to make the required posts every month and I don't think the burden of that will be healthy for you. 12btc divided by 24 months is 0.5 a month. Have you been making 0.5 a month from your signature? That's 500 posts a month on your current campaign to keep up with repayments. If you did get banned or lose access to your account or whatever than you're essentially screwed. And judging people by their posting history is all we really have on here. I'm not saying you're a gambling addict or anything but as others have brought up it should be taken into consideration and skepticism is healthy in these types of situations. Also, briefly looking at your tips you don't seem to be having much luck. If you're betting on your own tips everyday and losing then that could be cause for concern. You wouldn't be the first person to take out loans on here under false pretenses and then lose the money gambling (again, not saying this is what will happen but it should be taken into consideration I think).

I don't think my account will ever get banned as I am contributing to the community...
And I am sure I will repay everyone in full, Sir...

When you're forcing yourself to make the required posts that might change. Also, what are you going to do if signature campaigns get banned or bitcoins value drops or skyrockets?

I ain't begging at all, just asking help, as begging doesn't include repayment, beggars don't repay but I am here to repay everyone...
Okay, if you think that all my posts in Gambling alone would let me get banned here, I promise everyone here that I will make 20 posts in different threads excluding Gambling section daily to complete those 100 posts (if the limits will be removed) and unless limits are there, I will make 50% of my total 100 posts in other sections during week's period...

Will that be fine???

Well those are terms prospective lenders will have to be fine with, but even if you have the bestest of intentions you're still going to struggle to keep up your end of the deal and I'd seriously reconsider what you're asking for here.

One more thing Mods, please delete this thread as now it's getting more harsh on me to even take it...
Now, it's about respect... Some people think I have no respect for my dad, so please delete this thread as it's not just about my reputation, it's about my Dad now...

I am not at all interested in getting anything from anyone here now...
Thanks a lot for all the insults you all did to me...
Will always remember this...

MODS, PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD...

You can lock it yourself at the bottom left if you wish.

[Quickseller]

Such as?

Marcotheminer & Muhammed Zakir are the two most reputable persons here who can vouch for me...

They can vouch for you in what way? They know that you're telling the truth and will pay the money back? Are they willing to stake their reputations on the line for this, or are you just saying you've previously borrowed and returned money from them so they can vouch for that?

The OP claims that he has taken loans from Marcotheminer and MZ. Marcotheminer claims that he has a 1+ BTC loan outstanding. I'm not sure why he was trusted with so much money.

OP claims he will use signature campaign earnings to repay the loan. Based on ~100 posts per week, it would take ~2 years just to repay principle. In that time lenders could earn nearly the same amount on bitfinex and would likely be able to withdraw almost on demand (there may be some delays if swaps are for more then 1 day).

I am not sure if the OP seriously thinks he will get this loan although he did ask me to fill the entire amount prior to him creating this thread.

[hilariousandco]

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

[Quickseller]

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Marco did try to vouch for him last night (I was proactively contacted about the OP by Marco). I haven't been able to verify the loan from MZ although I haven't looked into it.

One other thing I forgot to mention, the OP claims to have 4 hero accounts, also didn't try to look into it as 4 hero accounts are worth <2BTC.

[gkv9]

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Can understand that my loan's outstanding, but already had conversation with Marco regarding the same and for repayment too...
Anyways, I don't want anything from here anymore, I will try and manage everything from somewhere else...
It's about my dad's respect now, and so I don't want anyone's help here...
People don't even think before saying anything that what someone's suffering from...
And that's totally fine, I can understand that there are scammers out everywhere...
But that doesn't mean that everyone out here is the same so-called scammer...

[hilariousandco]

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Marco did try to vouch for him last night (I was proactively contacted about the OP by Marco). I haven't been able to verify the loan from MZ although I haven't looked into it.

One other thing I forgot to mention, the OP claims to have 4 hero accounts, also didn't try to look into it as 4 hero accounts are worth <2BTC.

Where did he claim this? PM? Not sure why Marco would vouch for him, and if he was surely he could just lend a big chunk of the money to him? According to Marco's thread there seems to be two active loans for slightly over 1btc but the repayment dates seem to have long passed so not sure if they're still relevant:

ACTIVE

User	Collateral	Amount Loaned	To Repay	Repayment By
gkv9	-	0.40BTC	0.45 0.60BTC	January 28
sickler (xChg)	Collateral	0.50BTC	0.60BTC	February 28
equinoxx	-	0.69BTC	0.75BTC	March 17
John Barnes	Collateral	0.70BTC	0.90BTC	March 18
arklan	-	4.05BTC	4.23BTC	June 1 Info
gkv9	-	0.50BTC	0.55BTC	July 3
John Barnes	-	1.45BTC	-BTC	August
John Barnes	-	0.80BTC	-BTC	August

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Can understand that my loan's outstanding, but already had conversation with Marco regarding the same and for repayment too...
Anyways, I don't want anything from here anymore, I will try and manage everything from somewhere else...
It's about my dad's respect now, and so I don't want anyone's help here...
People don't even think before saying anything that what someone's suffering from...
And that's totally fine, I can understand that there are scammers out everywhere...
But that doesn't mean that everyone out here is the same so-called scammer...

We're not saying you're a scammer, we're just being skeptical. You might have every intention of paying this back but you could still run into trouble paying it back for numerous reasons. How much do you currently have loaned out? Is the post above from Marco's thread correct?

[gkv9]

Marco did try to vouch for him last night (I was proactively contacted about the OP by Marco). I haven't been able to verify the loan from MZ although I haven't looked into it.

One other thing I forgot to mention, the OP claims to have 4 hero accounts, also didn't try to look into it as 4 hero accounts are worth <2BTC.

I guess this had to be between us which is why I told this to you in private...

[Quickseller]

Where did he claim this? PM? Not sure why Marco would vouch for him, and if he was surely he could just lend a big chunk of the money to him? According to Marco's thread there seems to be two active loans for slightly over 1btc but the repayment dates seem to have long passed so not sure if they're still relevant:

ACTIVE

User	Collateral	Amount Loaned	To Repay	Repayment By
gkv9	-	0.40BTC	0.45 0.60BTC	January 28
sickler (xChg)	Collateral	0.50BTC	0.60BTC	February 28
equinoxx	-	0.69BTC	0.75BTC	March 17
John Barnes	Collateral	0.70BTC	0.90BTC	March 18
arklan	-	4.05BTC	4.23BTC	June 1 Info
gkv9	-	0.50BTC	0.55BTC	July 3
John Barnes	-	1.45BTC	-BTC	August
John Barnes	-	0.80BTC	-BTC	August

He contacted me on Skype to let me know that the OP has the ability to repay from posting (and that the OP has ~1BTC loan with him).

It is difficult to know if the OP has repaid the loans he took out because of such heavy reuse of his address.

[gkv9]

ACTIVE

User	Collateral	Amount Loaned	To Repay	Repayment By
gkv9	-	0.40BTC	0.45 0.60BTC	January 28
sickler (xChg)	Collateral	0.50BTC	0.60BTC	February 28
equinoxx	-	0.69BTC	0.75BTC	March 17
John Barnes	Collateral	0.70BTC	0.90BTC	March 18
arklan	-	4.05BTC	4.23BTC	June 1 Info
gkv9	-	0.50BTC	0.55BTC	July 3
John Barnes	-	1.45BTC	-BTC	August
John Barnes	-	0.80BTC	-BTC	August

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Can understand that my loan's outstanding, but already had conversation with Marco regarding the same and for repayment too...
Anyways, I don't want anything from here anymore, I will try and manage everything from somewhere else...
It's about my dad's respect now, and so I don't want anyone's help here...
People don't even think before saying anything that what someone's suffering from...
And that's totally fine, I can understand that there are scammers out everywhere...
But that doesn't mean that everyone out here is the same so-called scammer...

We're not saying you're a scammer, we're just being skeptical. You might have every intention of paying this back but you could still run into trouble paying it back for numerous reasons. How much do you currently have loaned out? Is the post above from Marco's thread correct?

Yes, the post from Marco's thread is correct...
I am a very transparent person, and will always say truth whatever you will ask...

[Muhammed Zakir]

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

Marco did try to vouch for him last night (I was proactively contacted about the OP by Marco). I haven't been able to verify the loan from MZ although I haven't looked into it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958575.msg11407115#msg11407115

This also might be relevant -- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750507.msg11107506#msg11107506.

One other thing I forgot to mention, the OP claims to have 4 hero accounts, also didn't try to look into it as 4 hero accounts are worth <2BTC.

He told me too! TBH, he actually told me to post from any of his accounts(except gkv9) but I refused.

[Quickseller]

Did he ever repay you? I don't see that he has posted in your thread since he got the last 0.04, and your summary page says that the due date is "when he repays"

[Muhammed Zakir]

Did he ever repay you? I don't see that he has posted in your thread since he got the last 0.04,

We have been in communication before I loaned him and we still are. He has been in a hard time and now its worse. No, he has not repaid it but IIRC, he proposed his accounts(except gkv9) as collateral* but I did not accept it. I don't like to farm accounts and he needs more money to repay.

* There was some terms which I don't want to disclose.

and your summary page says that the due date is "when he repays"

You are right! I am giving him as much time as possible. It would have been faster because his father was getting a job. However, the death was unfortunate!

[hilariousandco]

Did you verify any of his stories? You do realise 'death in the family' is usually the first excuse people go to when they're having difficulties paying something back. He also seems to give the family/personal issues line for most of his previous loans. How much does he currently owe you and Marco?

[Quickseller]

Did you verify any of his stories? You do realise 'death in the family' is usually the first excuse people go to when they're having difficulties paying something back. He also seems to give the family/personal issues line for most of his previous loans. How much does he currently owe you and Marco?

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Date: 18th May, 2015
I am taking a loan of 0.04 BTC from you, MZ.
Please send the coins to:
18Lsy4DHTnUSp8CFh7DaxqN98FsCd2S5RQ
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
13CZj5mHbrh3mAyjBZ3yCfKKeFUsfsrDC9
Hz3pAsan/qDa9P1xciXIj2ir7j6tUhVui2Z6p4zNUFzLfVndqt+y8CLyrppcnysWyn1HVmGv+X0+UZSO6gkOPkE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

TXID: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/69eb113c6275094b069685917e752a2d9130c7c46866cb63efd02d5e963a879c

Total: 0.1BTC + 0.96BTC + 0.04BTC = 0.11 1.1BTC.

As talked on skype:

Loan required: BTC0.5
Repayment: BTC0.55
Duration: 1 month
Address: 13CZj5mHbrh3mAyjBZ3yCfKKeFUsfsrDC9

Received, thanks a lot Sir...

https://blockchain.info/tx/5a5a501d2b55c0773f7bb4b8992a5f269b19620b7d5b77352465a05cf3a2e796

Confirming that I sent this.

From the looks of it, he owes MZ 1.04 and marcotheminer.5 although marcotheminer told me that he is owed ~1 BTC, so there might be another private loan.

I think this is a very high amount for his reputation