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August 31, 2015, 04:32:16 AM
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Part of the forum's mission is to support the Bitcoin ecosystem as a whole. To this end, I'm happy to announce that the forum is a sponsor of the Montreal Scaling Bitcoin Conference, which will discuss Bitcoin's max block size issues from an academic and technical point of view. The first conference is focused on requirements: what we want Bitcoin to do, what is necessary for Bitcoin to continue functioning, etc. Specific proposals will not be considered at this conference, but will be considered at the later Hong Kong conference. This event will not be a debate, no decisions will be made, and it will not be political: it'll be entirely technology-focused.

Since the forum is a sponsor, I received two free tickets. I can't attend, so I'll probably give these tickets away to forum users. You still have to pay for your own travel and lodging, so this is really just a $200 discount to a much larger expense. If you're interested in these tickets, please explain in this thread why you would be useful at the conference. (Don't PM me.) I might decide not to give these tickets to anyone in this thread, though.

If you have a relevant academic background, the Conference might cover your expenses partially or completely. You should contact them about that.

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September 02, 2015, 04:38:24 AM
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Part of the forum's mission is to support the Bitcoin ecosystem as a whole. To this end, I'm happy to announce that the forum is a sponsor of the Montreal Scaling Bitcoin Conference, which will discuss Bitcoin's max block size issues from an academic and technical point of view. The first conference is focused on requirements: what we want Bitcoin to do, what is necessary for Bitcoin to continue functioning, etc. Specific proposals will not be considered at this conference, but will be considered at the later Hong Kong conference. This event will not be a debate, no decisions will be made, and it will not be political: it'll be entirely technology-focused.

Since the forum is a sponsor, I received two free tickets. I can't attend, so I'll probably give these tickets away to forum users. You still have to pay for your own travel and lodging, so this is really just a $150 discount to a much larger expense. If you're interested in these tickets, please explain in this thread why you would be useful at the conference. (Don't PM me.) I might decide not to give these tickets to anyone in this thread, though.

If you have a relevant academic background, the Conference might cover your expenses partially or completely. You should contact them about that.

Thank you for the opportunity!

I am currently on the fence about showing up but a chance to avoid ticket expense would be a huge incentive to make it work. (especially seeing as prices are set to increase tomorrow)

I have been pretty vocal about the block size issue in the threads here on btctalk, reddit and twitter as they are really my only way to vent and air out my opinion on this subject. I live 2 hours away from Montreal in my part of town is.. inexistent. I was very curious about the event when it got announced but undecided on my ability to make it. I've never had the chance to meet fellow "bitcoiners"  and I do consider I could bring some valuable thoughts to the table.

My background is not technical, I am not a developer. My interest in Bitcoin spawns mainly from its socio-economic aspect and especially its sound economic principles. Despite that my general interest and curiosity have, I believe, allowed me to shape a clear picture of the incentives and different dynamics at stakes in the block size debate.

I have been a loud opponent of XT & BIP101, not for their poor technological design and assumptions but for the political grounds they hail from. Fortunately I am happy to read the intent of the conference is to serve a productive outcome and that the boogeyman of "governance" should largely be ignored.

To ask ourselves what we'd like Bitcoin to do is indeed a challenge given the crowd of people each claiming their own use case. I think it should be important during this conference that we observe and consider what Bitcoin does well, not what we'd like it to be. When Satoshi described Bitcoin as internet "cash" what exactly did he have in mind? What is the true breakthrough from Bitcoin's white paper? How exactly have we gotten here and what were the driving forces? Of course these are very hard questions given the tendency for everyone to each interpret facts their own way according to their individual experience and history with Bitcoin.

If you ask me Bitcoin is about privacy and financial freedom. It promises to reinvent our economic lives and general human governance from the ground up. I am hoping we can build on top of its decentralized protocol an entirely new financial system by reducing trust as much as possible at the core and from there allow an ecosystem to grow around a whole decentralization spectrum. I don't believe it can achieve this in its current form and I am convinced that some of the tools and ideas I have seen shared by some of the very people that should be present at the workshop are key to enable the future I envision.

For this reason it would be an absolute pleasure to have a chance to discuss and develop together with the other participant our understanding of Bitcoin going forward.

You might've seen me being a loud mouth on twitter  Cheesy https://twitter.com/bergalex (but don't worry I can behave)

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September 08, 2015, 07:12:58 AM
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If anyone wants the last ticket, you'll need to tell me really soon, probably in the next 8 hours.

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September 08, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
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Was this the first time the forum sponsored a real world event? I've never seen bitcointalk sponsoring anything tbh. Good news! Sadly this post didn't receive much attention.














 

 

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September 08, 2015, 10:29:34 PM
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Was this the first time the forum sponsored a real world event? I've never seen bitcointalk sponsoring anything tbh. Good news! Sadly this post didn't receive much attention.

I'm gonna be there thanks to Theymos !  Grin

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September 08, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
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If anyone wants the last ticket, you'll need to tell me really soon, probably in the next 8 hours.

I'd love to go.
brg444 and I have been discussing this issue at length on the forum, would be fun to be able to talk with him about it in person.  Grin
I'd be for a block size increase, but not in support of bitcoinXT, simply because of the way they went about overly stressing the urgency of the issue, so poeple would feel pressure to quickly switch to their version if Bitcoin, seemingly for the purpose of giving them more power over future bitcoin development, which they seemed to of abused from day one ( the blacklisting code ).
What i would bring to the discussion on block limit is not so much a proposal to fix the issue, more of a proposal  that would might help devs reach consensus on issues like changing the block size limit. you can see my thoughts about that here.  Bacily i think Everyone (miners, investors, and large bitcoin entities ) should express their willingness to upgrade to any potential change, and this data would help devs reach consensus, and avoid silly forks like XT from ever happening. I'm currently working a on website that tracks the miners voting on BIP100 vs BIP101, and will allow investors to vote (1BTC 1Vote) simply by verifying a signed message.
If you gave me the ticket i would forsure be able to make it, I live nearby, and i'd have a good time!


never mind just checked the dates and i can't make it this weekend  Cry
I could only make it to the Opening party September 11th @ 19:00

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September 09, 2015, 12:57:26 AM
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The deadline for me to give out tickets has passed, so you'll now need to buy a ticket if you want to go.

If you can't make it, the whole event will be livestreamed and everyone at the conference will have a computer in front of them connected to an IRC channel that the world will be able to join. (I will be participating via IRC.)

Was this the first time the forum sponsored a real world event? I've never seen bitcointalk sponsoring anything tbh.

Yes.

(The logo they have on their sponsors page was just something they whipped up -- bitcointalk.org doesn't have a proper logo.)

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September 09, 2015, 01:08:38 AM
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(The logo they have on their sponsors page was just something they whipped up -- bitcointalk.org doesn't have a proper logo.)

I was going to say, I noticed the battlefield font and was wondering what was up with that logo. Cool that you sponsored this event, I'll be watching the stream.

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September 09, 2015, 01:16:43 AM
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The deadline for me to give out tickets has passed, so you'll now need to buy a ticket if you want to go.

If you can't make it, the whole event will be livestreamed and everyone at the conference will have a computer in front of them connected to an IRC channel that the world will be able to join. (I will be participating via IRC.)

Was this the first time the forum sponsored a real world event? I've never seen bitcointalk sponsoring anything tbh.

Yes.

(The logo they have on their sponsors page was just something they whipped up -- bitcointalk.org doesn't have a proper logo.)

I do believe the event is now sold out.

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September 09, 2015, 01:32:57 AM
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The deadline for me to give out tickets has passed, so you'll now need to buy a ticket if you want to go.

If you can't make it, the whole event will be livestreamed and everyone at the conference will have a computer in front of them connected to an IRC channel that the world will be able to join. (I will be participating via IRC.)

Was this the first time the forum sponsored a real world event? I've never seen bitcointalk sponsoring anything tbh.

Yes.

(The logo they have on their sponsors page was just something they whipped up -- bitcointalk.org doesn't have a proper logo.)

I do believe the event is now sold out.

It is. I wish I would have seen this thread sooner. I live in Montreal but didn't want to pay the 150$ USD if I could just watch the live stream.

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September 09, 2015, 02:05:14 AM
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Theymos' posts are so damn good at going undercover. Think about that: Admin of the biggest bitcoin forum posts about giving away tickets worth 200$ and only one person replies to get one.














 

 

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September 09, 2015, 06:10:51 AM
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This is a good start for this forum to make a real difference. Open debate <formal or informal> would settle most differences on this subject. Everyone has been criticizing Theymos for banning XT people on Reddit \r\Bitcoin and he is now showing that he supports constructive discussion in a positive environment by sponsoring this event.

Let's just hope this event would settle this matter once and for all, and we can focus on growing Bitcoin, not Blockstream or Lightning networks or anything else.

A sold out event, is a good sign for the future of Bitcoin.  Grin

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September 09, 2015, 11:11:34 AM
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The problem that needs to be solved is this.

How not to stifle Bitcoin's growth that we have observed in the past, while at the same time
not to let the network shrink to the point, where consensus will be determined by a select few.

It's good that discussions are going to be technical, as that's where the solution can be found.

If you need a good example of communities that reach consensus regularly and consistently, look at mathematicians.
Do you, guys, think they pat each other on the back and then vote?

Haha, no! They dig the truth! Smiley


The current 1MB limit needs to show that blockchain validation costs can temporarily shrink before any decisions to raise it are made.
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September 09, 2015, 11:32:55 AM
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Theymos' posts are so damn good at going undercover. Think about that: Admin of the biggest bitcoin forum posts about giving away tickets worth 200$ and only one person replies to get one.

i don't know about the others, but my main reason about why i didn't ask about it yet is the $ and the long travel needed Wink


If you can't make it, the whole event will be livestreamed and everyone at the conference will have a computer in front of them connected to an IRC channel that the world will be able to join. (I will be participating via IRC.)

awesome, i will take a look at this thread and on "Montreal Scaling Bitcoin Conference" web when the moment comes, to see if link has been already posted.
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