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July 29, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
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Well, maybe someone 'external' can't link your identity to your exchange withdrawal address, but the exchanges themselves no doubt possess all the relevant information. The same goes for any mixers you might use. All depends on the amount of logs they keep, and with whom they share the info, whether it be knowingly or otherwise.

A solutions is to keep the coins moving, preferably into separate wallets. Basically this:
Once the coins start moving, they can't reliably know which addresses you send to are actually yours.
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July 29, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
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Use a different address each time and use change addresses. Don't connect your identity to any addresses and there you have pretty much enough privacy. It's like people said above, if they can track us, how many coins does each one of us has? Cheesy

If you have a business or even as a freelance that requires credentials to get paid, how are you going to not have your address linked to you?
Once the coins start moving, they can't reliably know which addresses you send to are actually yours.

And if you buy in a BTC-accepting business, how isn't the address you give them not going to be linked to your real name and data?
Even if it is, if you load that address with just the required amount, they won't know about the rest of your Bitcoin. The change will be hard to trace after a few transactions anyways.

it would be very easy to track any transactions back to the originating wallet. therefore, your company balance would be public. (although,most businesses needto share books in their yearly report anyway right?)
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July 29, 2015, 07:25:17 PM
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http://coinalytics.co/tools/tracker.html

enjoy!

RodeoX, at some point ( 2015-1-04) you maybe had ~25 btc, at which point I think you sent it to an exchange.

have you reported the income you made with bitcoin from here?

https://blockchain.info/address/13dh6dNZ3FcXSnJRG8tBCUTvaaRaxgx7rn


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July 29, 2015, 07:36:40 PM
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it would be very easy to track any transactions back to the originating wallet. therefore, your company balance would be public. (although,most businesses needto share books in their yearly report anyway right?)
But if the coins are moving, then they can't reliably know how much is held at present time. Sure they can all be traced, but that only tells you that at one point in time, the company had X amount.

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July 29, 2015, 07:48:45 PM
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This is why alt coins like Monero and dark coin are doing well.  But it depends on the consumer and what features people are after.  Not everyone is after being anonymous.  Some people just want a good deal and for some bitcoin is sort of like couponing to get a better deal.

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July 29, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
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http://coinalytics.co/tools/tracker.html

enjoy!

RodeoX, at some point ( 2015-1-04) you maybe had ~25 btc, at which point I think you sent it to an exchange.

have you reported the income you made with bitcoin from here?

https://blockchain.info/address/13dh6dNZ3FcXSnJRG8tBCUTvaaRaxgx7rn

Closer! That is one of my wallets. (I don't hide). But the total is off I think? And I'm not using exchanges much anymore. I don't think I used one this year. But yeah, that is some of my BTC. The best way to find out may be to get my tax return. I submit for purchases over $10K. So yes, I report my capitol gains, even though I never sell bitcoins.

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July 29, 2015, 08:43:48 PM
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I invite people to examine my BTC transactions as GingerAle did with the coinalytics tool (or other similar tools).

Because I am no expert, I am quite interested in having my BTC operations examined by skilled people here at bitcointalk.

I would also be interested in any suggestions as to improving my BTC security.

Thanks!


EDIT: Great thread, a much-needed discussion
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September 09, 2015, 10:14:10 AM
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Here's another tool

https://www.blockseer.com/


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September 09, 2015, 11:11:23 AM
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If it was wanted they could make a list, no? We have our real life labeled on exchanges. All the time we withdraw or deposit it gets on the list. Soon they could know most of the wallets connected by us and follow every bit we send?

if you don't want your identity be revealed and associated with your bitcoins using Mixers is one of the options, that is proven to work.
if you don't want that, you can buy bitcoin from someone close to you with cash so that there would not exist any record of you buying those coins and send them to a fresh bitcoin address that you have just created with no connection to other addresses.

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