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August 31, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
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We will start accepting donations for CryptoNight FPGA mining from cryptonote community. ( BCN, XMR, AEON, ONEEVILCOIN, REDWIND, TAVOS, INFINIUM8) - cryptonight

I spoke earlier to a fpga coder who is willing to do , so all we need is your support, no matter which cryptonote coin you support, all kinds of donations will be accepted and hold by the respective coin related member ( trusted person ).

All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's.


If you feel you are somehow associated with one of the above stated coins feel free to contact me.


Donation addresses will appear when we have trusted members.


Feel free to express your opinion on this matter.
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August 31, 2015, 08:10:47 AM
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I spoke earlier to an fpga coder who is willing to do you
In my mind this reads a bit funny.

All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's.
Wow, that's setting an high bar! You're not asking him to provide the source or anything like that, just a simple question!

Put the two things together.  Cheesy
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August 31, 2015, 08:12:45 AM
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I spoke earlier to an fpga coder who is willing to do you
In my mind this reads a bit funny.

All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's.
Wow, that's setting an high bar! You're not asking him to provide the source or anything like that, just a simple question!

Put the two things together.  Cheesy

1. I just corrected it before you replied.

2. Will be clarified later today.
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August 31, 2015, 09:36:04 AM
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We will start accepting donations for CryptoNight FPGA mining from cryptonote community. ( BCN, XMR, AEON, ONEEVILCOIN, REDWIND, TAVOS, INFINIUM8) - cryptonight

I spoke earlier to a fpga coder who is willing to do , so all we need is your support, no matter which cryptonote coin you support, all kinds of donations will be accepted and hold by the respective coin related member ( trusted person ).

All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's.


If you feel you are somehow associated with one of the above stated coins feel free to contact me.


Donation addresses will appear when we have trusted members.


Feel free to express your opinion on this matter.

I am an FPGA developer, please refer to the Vanillacoin project to see my work. For this to succeed the FPGA board would require extremely fast memory, at least a few megabytes. The most popular FPGA mining boards have ~0 megabytes of memory. FPGA boards that do have onboard memory is typically DDR2. As an HDL/Verilog programmer I can tell you that without a custom built board it is not possible to beat a CPU. However with a custom built board you have pipeline issues like any ASIC would have when processing this amount of memory.

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August 31, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
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The fpga dev i talked to is going to build a custom board,

good news for the cryptonote community


sup now john-connor  Grin

EDIT- i remember exactly what you said on #vanillacoin "even a shitty fpga would do it "

this seems a contradiction to me.
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August 31, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
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August 31, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

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August 31, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Cause i support cryptonight coins, thats the why.
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August 31, 2015, 03:07:14 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Cause i support cryptonight coins, thats the why.
Okay, I think the more obvious answer is because Cryptonight coins include Monero and the Monero bagholders would be more interested in sending coins to you than another group as it makes no sense. Why would someone who works on FPGA's give up profits over a stupid preference of coins.

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August 31, 2015, 04:43:21 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.

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August 31, 2015, 05:08:59 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

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August 31, 2015, 06:45:07 PM
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The fpga dev i talked to is going to build a custom board,

good news for the cryptonote community


sup now john-connor  Grin

EDIT- i remember exactly what you said on #vanillacoin "even a shitty fpga would do it "

this seems a contradiction to me.

I've a feeling "john-connor" is multiple people - i.e. a team.

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August 31, 2015, 09:15:46 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
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August 31, 2015, 09:19:03 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
Listen if it was easily done it would have been done, were talking money now and when there is money to be made people are paying attention. The same people who made the FPGA's back for bitcoin before asic I am sure looked at it but I also am sure they looked at X11 more. When a coin has enough cap and people to want to buy FPGA's constantly they will be made that is why Litecoin led to Asics and if Dash stays up or picks up a larger market cap we will see an X11 fpga or an asic. If any Cryptonight coin starts being huge and having a very large market cap then yeah we will see one then because it will be profitable to do so.

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August 31, 2015, 09:22:59 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
Listen if it was easily done it would have been done, were talking money now and when there is money to be made people are paying attention. The same people who made the FPGA's back for bitcoin before asic I am sure looked at it but I also am sure they looked at X11 more. When a coin has enough cap and people to want to buy FPGA's constantly they will be made that is why Litecoin led to Asics and if Dash stays up or picks up a larger market cap we will see an X11 fpga or an asic. If any Cryptonight coin starts being huge and having a very large market cap then yeah we will see one then because it will be profitable to do so.

You are just stating an theoretical evolution which might not be wrong at all, have you seen bytecoin marketcap?
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August 31, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
Listen if it was easily done it would have been done, were talking money now and when there is money to be made people are paying attention. The same people who made the FPGA's back for bitcoin before asic I am sure looked at it but I also am sure they looked at X11 more. When a coin has enough cap and people to want to buy FPGA's constantly they will be made that is why Litecoin led to Asics and if Dash stays up or picks up a larger market cap we will see an X11 fpga or an asic. If any Cryptonight coin starts being huge and having a very large market cap then yeah we will see one then because it will be profitable to do so.

You are just stating an theoretical evolution which might not be wrong at all, have you seen bytecoin marketcap?
Yeah and look at litecoin the lowest cap that has an asic, right around 120million, so Bytecoin has 8% of the total value of litecoin. When it hits 50 million then I would expect some custom hardware coming out for it.

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August 31, 2015, 09:29:20 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
Listen if it was easily done it would have been done, were talking money now and when there is money to be made people are paying attention. The same people who made the FPGA's back for bitcoin before asic I am sure looked at it but I also am sure they looked at X11 more. When a coin has enough cap and people to want to buy FPGA's constantly they will be made that is why Litecoin led to Asics and if Dash stays up or picks up a larger market cap we will see an X11 fpga or an asic. If any Cryptonight coin starts being huge and having a very large market cap then yeah we will see one then because it will be profitable to do so.

You are just stating an theoretical evolution which might not be wrong at all, have you seen bytecoin marketcap?
Yeah and look at litecoin the lowest cap that has an asic, right around 120million, so Bytecoin has 8% of the total value of litecoin. When it hits 50 million then I would expect some custom hardware coming out for it.

People make the evolution, its not directly related to the marketcap. If its profitable why not?
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August 31, 2015, 09:30:37 PM
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Why would he make a FPGA for that algorithm? It would be a lot more profitable to do it for X11 and mine dash if he can get these FPGA to be efficient enough. I think i am smelling scam on this one.

Also I can't imagine custom built FPGA miners to be cheap enough for a decent enough ROI timeframe. If the guy could build custom FPGAs and mining software which would be profitable on XMR or whatever cryptonote fork is the most profitable he would have done it already and sold it for private investors.

Vanillacoin has FPGA mining because the developer did it by himself (some community members took part in the dev process) to support the project.
Exactly if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now and we would have seen it on the more profitable algorithms first.

VanillaCoin has nothing to do with this besides having fpga mining.

Maybe no one tried to build custom fpgas yet, or maybe the "botnets" are fpgas or asics.

Also "if it could be done profitably it would have already been done by now " this argument isnt really valid, did you ever imagine something like bitcoin in 2000?
Listen if it was easily done it would have been done, were talking money now and when there is money to be made people are paying attention. The same people who made the FPGA's back for bitcoin before asic I am sure looked at it but I also am sure they looked at X11 more. When a coin has enough cap and people to want to buy FPGA's constantly they will be made that is why Litecoin led to Asics and if Dash stays up or picks up a larger market cap we will see an X11 fpga or an asic. If any Cryptonight coin starts being huge and having a very large market cap then yeah we will see one then because it will be profitable to do so.

You are just stating an theoretical evolution which might not be wrong at all, have you seen bytecoin marketcap?
Yeah and look at litecoin the lowest cap that has an asic, right around 120million, so Bytecoin has 8% of the total value of litecoin. When it hits 50 million then I would expect some custom hardware coming out for it.

People make the evolution, its not directly related to the marketcap. If its profitable why not?
Because it isn't profitable yet, the coins need to be worth more and the time, materials, labor all need to add up to be worth making and selling at a cost that miners would be willing to pay.

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August 31, 2015, 09:32:50 PM
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People can have the option of mining at non profitability and profit later...anyways

"All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's."

If it can be done, why not? Would be the same as a gpu/cpu. ( at least)
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August 31, 2015, 09:36:13 PM
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People can have the option of mining at non profitability and profit later...anyways

"All we are asking from the coder is the hashrate/ price of the fpga is equal or better than the gpu's / cpu's."

If it can be done, why not? Would be the same as a gpu/cpu. ( at least)
Because it isn't as simple as you are making it out to be, the coder will need dev boards, time and money to make it work. Dev boards are very expensive when they are one of a kind and when you throw 8 bitcoins at this project and he does get a code and set up worthwhile who is going to fabricate them? Who is going to purchase the MOQ to actually have the fabrication worthwhile?


The idea of these donations going anywhere but inside someone's pocket is extremely small.

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