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September 04, 2015, 07:36:27 PM
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Neither party gets charged for family and friends that's free for both parties...
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September 04, 2015, 07:36:48 PM
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Okay, but the funds that were sent did not come from a card. As he said, it came from a friend of mine. So no way I could reverse that to a card could I?
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September 04, 2015, 07:37:36 PM
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Neither party gets charged for family and friends that's free for both parties...

I think it might depend on country, I was charged 1.44

See link below, free in US but not on international and my account falls under international thats why the intl in the emails

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/article/?solutionId=FAQ690&m=HTQ
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September 04, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
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Okay, but the funds that were sent did not come from a card. As he said, it came from a friend of mine. So no way I could reverse that to a card could I?
Not you but your friend could..
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September 04, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
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Neither party gets charged for family and friends that's free for both parties...

I think it might depend on country, I was charged 1.44
Correct but he would not be..
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September 04, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
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Neither party gets charged for family and friends that's free for both parties...
That's incorrect.  There is usually a fee depending on the country.

Was paypalbusters charged a fee as well?
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September 04, 2015, 07:41:41 PM
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Neither party gets charged for family and friends that's free for both parties...

I think it might depend on country, I was charged 1.44
Correct but he would not be..

See link below, free in US but not on international and my account falls under international thats why the intl in the emails

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/article/?solutionId=FAQ690&m=HTQ
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September 04, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
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Okay, but the funds that were sent did not come from a card. As he said, it came from a friend of mine. So no way I could reverse that to a card could I?
Not you but your friend could..
His friends transaction is still marked at completed as well.
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September 04, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
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Is PayPal buster from india?
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September 04, 2015, 07:46:31 PM
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Is PayPal buster from india?

No, he's in europe, his site is hosted in Germany i think
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September 04, 2015, 07:57:02 PM
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So there is multiple reason why they could lock his account. At this point three are so many variables but through reading you go have to except a payment but not friends to family. I would say for PayPal buster to send the btc to escrow until established what is going on. It could be held for up to 21 days.
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September 04, 2015, 08:00:08 PM
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So there is multiple reason why they could lock his account. At this point three are so many variables but through reading you go have to except a payment but not friends to family. I would say for PayPal buster to send the btc to escrow until established what is going on. It could be held for up to 21 days.

I'll accept that and I'll also remove the negative trust if he can show confirmation from Paypal that his account has in actual fact been frozen/deleted/vaporised or whatever.

It was definitely not me that had anything to do with his account problems as he accused me of. Not sure how I could hack into Paypal and delete his account.
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September 04, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
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So there is multiple reason why they could lock his account. At this point three are so many variables but through reading you go have to except a payment but not friends to family. I would say for PayPal buster to send the btc to escrow until established what is going on. It could be held for up to 21 days.
I don't think so though, he seems to have gone offline. Call me skeptical but this seems a bit too fishy to me.
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September 04, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
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***deleted**** I was being nasty  Angry
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September 04, 2015, 08:22:14 PM
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Is my part of the inquest now over....

Anything else we still need to check or is there anything else anybody still needs to have verified?
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September 04, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
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@paypalbusters  why would you email paypal instead of calling for a serious matter like account being deleted?

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September 04, 2015, 09:11:46 PM
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I just want to clarify some issues here quickly in regards to my dealings with some members today.

There are some that made offers today and they mentioned that I did not come across as 'trustworthy' or they were not feeling comfortable. I can understand this but please give me this opportunity to explain why this might have been the case.

One of the members who made an offer asked me to do the whole Skype thing with me showing my myself and my ID over the webcam. I told him that I did not have Skype installed and even if I did that it would not help as I have no webcam. I offered a copy of my id [which is properly certified]. So he ran for the hills. I eventually dug out one of my old laptops with a webcam and got Skype going on it but by that time he was miles away.

Another made an offer and we agreed on the price. I said I have 96.21 and I would send 94.00. Those on the international platform of Paypal can confirm that when you select a business transaction there is no fees. There is a small balloon that pops up saying 0 fees, receiver pays all. However, on friends/family transactions there is a small fee depending on the amount you send. This member asked me to send via friends/family, I checked, saw the fee was about 1.50 so said I will send 94.00. We then fixed the number of btc to send.

He then asked me to add a message to the invoice saying I received the goods, will not reverse etc.. and this is where it went tits up for this deal. I have had my Paypal account I think for around 4 or 5 years now. In that time I've done about 8 transactions with the last being about two years back. Modux can confirm this from the history. So its not like I was on Paypal each day, I've hardly ever used it. So when the member said INVOICE my head went straight to business i.e. it had to be a business transaction.

I then told him I will send the full balance of 96.21 and he pays the fee, as the international Paypal is setup for business transactions. The idea was to send everything so that he would still get out a little more than the 94.00 as agreed on. If less, then he could just drop the number of btc to send. But when I said this alarm bells went off in his head as to why I want to send the whole balance now and let him pay the fees and why change the amount etc. I was not aware of the fact that I could also include the message in the family/friends section [never checked, idiot]. So he also ran for the hills as he thought I was now trying my luck. So more matter of miscommunication than anything else.

And then my send problems today. I know for many it may not make sense but just think of it. The account stood still for close on two years with $2 in it, almost a 100 arrive, I login for the first time in about two years and try to send the whole balance. Paypal stops me and tells me the account has a 'limited' status. I need to change my password and the security questions. I did that and I get a message that the 'limited' status has been removed. So all is fine and well.

However when I tried to send to Paypalbusters it refused to send. So I sent a mail of to support, they 'restored' the account and off the payment went without problems. So nothing funny really.

So if you were one of the people I dealt with today, sorry for the confusion. Its not like I try and buy bitcoin everyday with Paypal. This was my very first [and I think last]. So if I have shaken your trust sorry for that, it was definitely not done intentionally.

Please if there are still any questions that you think needs to be asked/clarified then please post them so we can deal with them and get them out of the way so we can move on.
 
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September 04, 2015, 09:45:34 PM
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Are you still buying? Would you like to do a smaller $20 exchange with me? $20 PP for $18 BTC @ Bitstamp USD Rate

Shoot me a PM if interested, I'm looking for small amounts of PP funds to buy themes and graphics with.

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September 04, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
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Are you still buying? Would you like to do a smaller $20 exchange with me? $20 PP for $18 BTC @ Bitstamp USD Rate

Shoot me a PM if interested, I'm looking for small amounts of PP funds to buy themes and graphics with.

Sorry no. I do not actually use Paypal at all. I received money on Paypal and had nowhere to send it or anything to do with it so thought I would exchange it for bitcoin. Now the wallet is empty as planned, pity the bitcoin wallet did not grow at the same time  Wink
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September 05, 2015, 07:32:13 AM
Last edit: September 05, 2015, 07:48:14 AM by RustyNomad
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I want to throw up a .1 bounty for solid proof that this was a scam. If you have solid proof I will give you .1 if this was not a scam I will provide OP with the .1 and my apologies but this is very sketchy. This is why I did not deal with him.

This bounty still up, you should offer it to Paypalbusters to open his side of the records. Tried to get hold of him today but I can assume that he has left, for good.

I read through this thread again this morning and one thing that everybody seems to miss is the fact that he has actually received the money on his end.

I received the payment from him and after that my paypal account was closed by paypal...can someone explain me what`s happening?
This problem is from paypal or is a new scam method? should i release him the bitcoins?

monbux what proof do i need to provide? i received the payment and i explained that but after that my account was deleted, not limited or other things like that, just deleted...what can i do now? i dont have the money and i dont have my paypal account anymore...
I still wait for the paypal support to answer to my email, i belive that this is a new scam trick but i need to be sure.


Everybody is looking at my Paypal as if I did not send the funds but he clearly admitted on several occasions that he has received it. I'm not sure what more proof anybody wants. Also, just read the quote above again and tell me you are not suspicious. He received funds then all of a sudden his Paypal just gets deleted from the servers of Paypal. Since when do Paypal 'delete' accounts? They might freeze it yes but not delete it.

He then says this is a new kind of scam and everybody jumps on the wagon with him accusing me of taking his money, putting up bounties and the like. But just read it again and look what he's actually saying.....He's saying that I sent him money, he received it, and then, I'm not sure how, I hacked Paypal and deleted his account and in the process got my money back and or stole it back....

So one thing that is clear is that he did receive the funds. That he admitted several times. That is unless I again hacked Paypal to make their servers show him a false payment on his side. What is not clear here is what happened to his Paypal account? Why did Paypal just delete his account? Anybody ever hear of anybody else that had their accounts deleted, not frozen or anything like that but completely wiped from the Paypal system?

We have no proof of this, just his word. Also think of what kind of proof has he provided up to this stage, he has shown us transaction records that showed what? That showed he received the funds, he has not shown anything to show that the payment was rejected, reversed or anything else to indicate that it was my payment that blew up his Paypal. He has not provided any kind of proof that his account was wiped from Paypals systems, no screenshot of failed login's or that no account exist, no emails to support or anything. We just have his word that his account went up in this air.

So what has he actually told us and provided proof of thus far? That he did receive the funds on his side.

EDIT: I forgot one very important aspect in all of this. Look at the image below and read the message very carefully:



What does it say? Does it say the account has been blocked, blown up, deleted....No it says the account was CLOSED. That only means one thing, he closed his own account. Paypal does not run around closing accounts. They do run around freezing and or blocking accounts but not closing account.

I tell you all now, I call total BS on Paypalbusters stories. He is nothing but a scammer and a liar and I will stand by this until he can provide proof of where his account was deleted and also provide proof of where he made contact with Paypal to have this resolved.

Without that his story holds no water and he is just nothing more but another scammer. End of story.
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