100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net + [private faucet]

[winspiral]

So far the first investors have got back 20%

For me all is clear,but perhaps not yet for visitors and investors.

The graphics help to understand better.
The profit is till low,but it is interesting for those who have their bitcoin sleeping.

The adventure last maximum 100 days.
As we can see most of investors have already done 20% of the road.
The graphics show us that the startup is giving more and more profit.

Next graphic will show us about the profit made.
if you have suggestions...they are welcome...
principle will not change for the actual investors.
if something changes it will be for new ones.

[nickaizoku]

Got payment by today
Thanks you!

[winspiral]

Got payment by today
Thanks you!

So far it's just a part of your investment paid back.
You will only get the dividend with the last payment.
Last payment ends also your investment plan.
Last payment will be paid a little  after 95 days and before 100 days.
But in the meantime your dividends makes dividends.


Edition:
You can now follow a graphic about number of dividends paid.
It's not only funny but as well interesting.
If the phaphic is flat,it is not very good for the investors.
Of course it is the relation (NB of dividends X dividend) who is important.

[winspiral]

Now i belive it is only a question of trust and own bitcoin use.
If one does not trust the question is answered.
If one does trust then:
One does invest if one has sleeping bitcoins.

It is not more complicated than this.

Ok the profit is very very very small...but bigger then nothing and on your wallet you have not to calculate...it is nothing.

Just one warning...if you have btc network transaction fees...
Set your transaction fees on low...no need to send your satoshi in high priority.
Best is to chose a wallet fees free...like Xapo or perhaps other ones.
Xapo gives you 5000 satoshi if you open an account.
if you are my referral by xapo i can give more dividends.
of course if I get referrals who are not investors...it does not change the story...investor will benefit any way.

After a polemick I continuous here

I hate to derail this thread as neither you personally nor your "start up" are the topic here, you are just an example. I will however take the time and answer to your post. If you want argue this further you should create a topic in the appropriate section.

If anyone wanted an example of someone doing the things I have written in OP that is promoting ponzi in their signature here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492957

Winspiral isn't a scammer nor his website is a scam website. I know him since he was a member on another forum and he asks to invest cents (not even dollars). We shouldn't assume ALL investment websites as scam websites.

thanks
I have forgotten who you are...perhaps had you an other nickname...

The only bad thing in this story is that an innocent has now negative trust points for a wrong thing.

I keep up saying loudly that my system is not a ponzi,unfortunately i cannot prove it.

Can you explain it? Can you explain why the information you present on your site do not match the data on the blockchain?

In the other hand you cannot prove that it is a ponzi.
You prefer give negative points to an innocent without proof than letting a probably scammer steal people.

Giving a negative rating in hindsight is the only way to have proof of a scam. Thus it could never prevent a possible scam. Consider it my personal - slightly amplified - opinion based on the above findings. I encourage you to answer to what I found and explain it.

Without knowing that the guilty are you...Among you and me...I'm right and you are wrong.
Of course for you negative points for an innocent is not a shame...
You believe that you have done your duty.

I was put in a positions where my warnings matter more than that of others. I have never asked for it, nor worked towards it. I will still make the best of it. If thats what you consider "my duty", yes.

I keep up saying that it is not a ponzi and that after 100 days all will be given back with profit.

How?

Have a nice day...
and thanks again "erikalui" for your trust.

You too.

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Can you explain it? Can you explain why the information you present on your site do not match the data on the blockchain?

Yes I can.
The first investment was sent with a payout from a poker site.
I have taken the adress on the blockchain...ofcourse the official sender was the poker casino.
The real sender explained it me by contact link.
So I changed the adress for a new one.
No problem with the second investment address...
Unfortunately the 3rd investor did a mistake and sent satoshi to the second investor(i do not know the second investor)
After the 3rd investor sent me satoshi.you should seen it on blockchain.
After it asked me to change the addresses for xapo addresses for saving the transfer fees...
I did...so you cannot see it on blockchain because internal transfer from xapo is not on blockchain.
After we have a perfect game member...you can compare the address if you are currious with the addresses on the perfect game.

I'm over 20 years already on the net and propose little systems to make cash for the fun.
My fun is programming the systems.
When i stop a site it is why I'm in the onligation to do it(exemple Liberty reserve story) or because it is not worth to continuous it.in this case i have always paid out my members.
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I keep up saying that it is not a ponzi and that after 100 days all will be given back with profit.

How?

Because my start up makes money and a part of this money is for my investors...easy not?
I can held it because never somewhere i said how much i will give as profit.

I hope the  two wrong accusations about "winspiral run a ponzi and is a scammer" and the 2 negative trust points will be cancelled...

[shorena]

Now i belive it is only a question of trust and own bitcoin use.
If one does not trust the question is answered.
If one does trust then:
One does invest if one has sleeping bitcoins.

It is not more complicated than this.

Ok the profit is very very very small...but bigger then nothing and on your wallet you have not to calculate...it is nothing.

Just one warning...if you have btc network transaction fees...
Set your transaction fees on low...no need to send your satoshi in high priority.
Best is to chose a wallet fees free...like Xapo or perhaps other ones.
Xapo gives you 5000 satoshi if you open an account.
if you are my referral by xapo i can give more dividends.
of course if I get referrals who are not investors...it does not change the story...investor will benefit any way.

After a polemick I continuous here

I hate to derail this thread as neither you personally nor your "start up" are the topic here, you are just an example. I will however take the time and answer to your post. If you want argue this further you should create a topic in the appropriate section.

If anyone wanted an example of someone doing the things I have written in OP that is promoting ponzi in their signature here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492957

Winspiral isn't a scammer nor his website is a scam website. I know him since he was a member on another forum and he asks to invest cents (not even dollars). We shouldn't assume ALL investment websites as scam websites.

thanks
I have forgotten who you are...perhaps had you an other nickname...

The only bad thing in this story is that an innocent has now negative trust points for a wrong thing.

I keep up saying loudly that my system is not a ponzi,unfortunately i cannot prove it.

Can you explain it? Can you explain why the information you present on your site do not match the data on the blockchain?

In the other hand you cannot prove that it is a ponzi.
You prefer give negative points to an innocent without proof than letting a probably scammer steal people.

Giving a negative rating in hindsight is the only way to have proof of a scam. Thus it could never prevent a possible scam. Consider it my personal - slightly amplified - opinion based on the above findings. I encourage you to answer to what I found and explain it.

Without knowing that the guilty are you...Among you and me...I'm right and you are wrong.
Of course for you negative points for an innocent is not a shame...
You believe that you have done your duty.

I was put in a positions where my warnings matter more than that of others. I have never asked for it, nor worked towards it. I will still make the best of it. If thats what you consider "my duty", yes.

I keep up saying that it is not a ponzi and that after 100 days all will be given back with profit.

How?

Have a nice day...
and thanks again "erikalui" for your trust.

You too.

You didnt answer any questions and to bring the rest:

Their "proof of payment" is fake. Please explain to me how its not a scam or at least how they work.

I could only find this: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Bitcoinwinspiralnet-B-t499992.html

I dint find their proof of payment nor I am an investor of his/her website. I just know him from EMS forum that I was a part of.

Source: http://bitcoin.winspiral.net/

Code:

Id    Inv date    BTC address                         BTC sent      pending BTC     Next payout    BTC paid
5    150905    1QGgNKBft1T42Po2YUd2vWAcAuC47uBQsN    0.01000000    0.0071207410    0.00089500    0.00200000

TX to/"from" that address on the given date:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/d2257878f06daec86f1a90b7520fb4b3fd0fc5cca37f13479bb448d16fa0b40f
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/4e35d016a9a2315d12b05e130cda6348702fd63bc8915899c7861292e47491ad
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/be0f68f82d5d45eec9cc2892a0b8e75f84f081559063567a4e3c2f06e8b97feb

None of the given amounts match any of the inputs or outputs of any of the transactions. The site also does not explain how they work, but only states:

You invest minimum 0.001BTC
This system is not a ponzi because you will get back your investment.
If you invest less than 0.001BTC it is a donation.

as well as:

Your investment will be returned in less then 100 days.
Amount of returns are always more then 10000 satoshi(except the last return)

From the forum link as "explanation":

The principle is simple:
You invest in a start-up.

As usual...nothing is promised because we do not know the future.
Normaly your principal is given back,but we do not know when.

Minimum investment is 0.001 BTC.
Be carefull:if you send less it is a donation.

Send here;
3FpVS2KwmsVCpsz8EHzEEyrrtaDma9Lt4x

Dividends and parts of ptincipal will be returned to your wallet...it is why you have only to send from YOUR WALLET.

Good luck.

I marked the typical ponzi bullshit for your concenience.

The rest is copy pasta from bitcoin.org.

https://istdasliberaloderkanndasweg.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

Dont be gullible just because you think you know someone.

[winspiral]

ouppsss you wrote after me during i have edited my post before yours...

[nickaizoku]

I believe im the only one investor in this forum with winspiral investment programme..
i have 3 active investment in there and he still paying me so far,doesnt have sign of scam?
And i believe this is not ponzi, the dividend is so small, it dont need to wait another deposit to make cashout or whatever related like ponzi.

[winspiral]

I believe im the only one investor in this forum with winspiral investment programme..
i have 3 active investment in there and he still paying me so far,doesnt have sign of scam?
And i believe this is not ponzi, the dividend is so small, it dont need to wait another deposit to make cashout or whatever related like ponzi.

no,i believe if my memory is good that an other member from this forun has invested...

you are right about your post.
You will be paidout if new investments are done or not.

I'm since over 20 years used to have wrong comments about my non usual systems...
This time it is a little different because" winspiral" has got for my honnest system negative points.

negative points for a scammer have "zero" effect...he scams...disappear and you will never seen it again with the same name...
For me it is not the same...
I'm on the net with the same nickname since ever.
No problem for the ones who know me well...
but the 1000ands other ones  or the new ones when they will see the negative points what will they think?
The "pain" is done (lol)...and it is impossible to stop a rumor...we all know that.
But on the other hand...yesterday was a good day for my investment system.
trying to "kill" me and my "invest in a start-up" he has provocated the opposit effect...
His "trying" has promote my system.
The problem will be when the "wrong information" will be know "out of contest".

It will not be a problem for me...i will continue to program systems for the fun...
the problem is that people could go away systems because i have got bad "reputation"...

Any way...
I believe that "people" are clever enough to analyse my system and take the good decision.
Be careful...
Good decision is not invest and invest...without analysing his own situation...
my investment need  compareason with other systems...and of course i advive you to take the best...(lol)
And once again...my system is not a "get fix% in 100 days" because nothing is promised because we cannot know how much the % will be.

 

[shorena]

All the fluffy words, yet you did not explain what you do in order to generate profit.

[winspiral]

All the fluffy words, yet you did not explain what you do in order to generate profit.

have you visited my site?
then you have certainy generated a part of the dividends for the investors...(lol)
Do you know Monsieur Jourdain from Molière?
Monsieur Jourdain spok in "prose" without knowing what "prose" were...
so you are...you are generating me cash and do you even know it not...
thanks for this...
no thanks for your bad negative points for a wrong thing.

But I will tell you a "confidence"...
i had a better "image" of Hero members"

i'm desapointed about you...
if you had analysed my start up (lol) you had seen that so far all turns around satoshi and you make a mountagn with it...
If you see so many scammers around you it does not mean that all people are scammers...
and you?
and you?
are you a scammer?
perhaps...one cannot know...
i'm sure if I search a little i can fing something where I could believe that you are perhaps a scammer or you have promote something which is perhaps a scam or could a day become a scam...
Are you sure you are clean?

I feel me clean even if sometimes i have promoted ponzis,but sorry,in this case my system and so my link in my signature is definitively not a ponzi.

[shorena]

All the fluffy words, yet you did not explain what you do in order to generate profit.

have you visited my site?

Yes.

then you have certainy generated a part of the dividends for the investors...(lol)

So its just ad revenue from investors checking your site?

Do you know Monsieur Jourdain from Molière?

Dont think so, should I?

Monsieur Jourdain spock in "prose" without knowing what "prose" were...
so you are...you are generating me cash and do you even know it not...
thanks for this...
no thanks for your bad negative points for a wrong thing.

Its very easy, just explain so I understand it without your mirrors and evasions and its gone.

Edit: to clearify:

#1 talk to me like Im 5, considering you claim 20 years of experience it should be no problem to break down your vast knowledge to a child.
#2 I need to understand how you make profit, how it is tied to the investors (as in: why do you need their money for this) and why you explain nothing in that regard on your site, but merely state "not a ponzi".

[winspiral]

Edit: to clearify:

#1 talk to me like Im 5, considering you claim 20 years of experience it should be no problem to break down your vast knowledge to a child.
#2 I need to understand how you make profit, how it is tied to the investors (as in: why do you need their money for this) and why you explain nothing in that regard on your site, but merely state "not a ponzi".

I do not explain on the site but i put links to where is talked about in forum or other directories.

i have already explained several times about the money i get from investors.

The money "I need" is just to fix the "at prorata"
if you do not understand this i cannot help you more...

I'm running faucets...are they scams or ponzi too?
Certainly in your mind...they are perhaps ponzi too...
for you all you do not understand is ponzi.

I will lose some time to explain you one thing...
ok i earn with ads...
but i repeat it because you have not read all i have already wrote:
each site and page of it is a part of the network.
eaven if it has not ads on it it has a power and is worth something...
it is whi you can sell links.
You follow me or are i too technical?
my site (the start-up will take value)
and the value if a part is sold will be used to pay my investors...easy...not?

put winspiral in google or other search engine...you will be astonished how much google know me...
put winspiral +other words and you are astonished too...
put your nickname...you will see the difference...
(i see a pretty girl) (lol)

[usman41]

Hai admin how i can withdrawn from day or 100day

[winspiral]

Hai admin how i can withdrawn from day or 100day

Sorry,
I do not understand you question.

[usman41]

im question payout how long to payout

[winspiral]

payouts aredone manually.
I payout if you have more than 10% or so in your "next payout" balance.
Dividends are paid out with the last payout after 95 and 100 days.

[shorena]

Edit: to clearify:

#1 talk to me like Im 5, considering you claim 20 years of experience it should be no problem to break down your vast knowledge to a child.
#2 I need to understand how you make profit, how it is tied to the investors (as in: why do you need their money for this) and why you explain nothing in that regard on your site, but merely state "not a ponzi".

I do not explain on the site but i put links to where is talked about in forum or other directories.

i have already explained several times about the money i get from investors.

The money "I need" is just to fix the "at prorata"
if you do not understand this i cannot help you more...

5 year old me say you hide behind fancy words again.

I'm running faucets...are they scams or ponzi too?

Is this related to the investors? Do they fund the faucets?

Certainly in your mind...they are perhaps ponzi too...
for you all you do not understand is ponzi.

Nope.

I will lose some time to explain you one thing...
ok i earn with ads...

That does not require investments.

but i repeat it because you have not read all i have already wrote:

I read your site and the single post you linked, none of this is explained there, why do I have to ask for this information? Why do you not inform your investors about the business they invest in?

each site and page of it is a part of the network.
eaven if it has not ads on it it has a power and is worth something...
it is whi you can sell links.
You follow me or are i too technical?

You failed to explain it for a 5 year old, but I have a basic understanding of SEO work and ad revenue, yes.

my site (the start-up will take value)
and the value if a part is sold will be used to pay my investors...easy...not?

No. Essentially you say: I give away coins from my income to investors which give me money I dont need. If you wanted to give away something for free why should people send you coins first?

put winspiral in google or other search engine...you will be astonished how much google know me...

Whatever thats supposed to say about you...

put winspiral +other words and you are astonished too...
put your nickname...you will see the difference...
(i see a pretty girl) (lol)

Nope, Im not famous, but Im not the topic here either. Maybe you can finally answer all questions instead of distracting.

#1 how you make profit (you say from ads)
#2 how it is tied to the investors (if its from ads, why do you need their money?)
#3 why you explain nothing in that regard on your site?

[usman41]

Ok admin i tes send 0.001btc https://blockchain.info/tx/037263dbb3386427b3f9e88dbec200b85ff5590b772f37363234e25ab2334bcf?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6917904670
My btc addres 18DUVbqKeYwv5jGu7gojS7drYQeAts5dFs

Please confirm

[winspiral]

have already explained several times about the money i get from investors.

The money "I need" is just to fix the "at prorata"
if you do not understand this i cannot help you more...

if you do not understand this...it is no need to tall about other things...
the "at prorata" is the heart of the system.

[winspiral]

Ok admin i tes send 0.001btc https://blockchain.info/tx/037263dbb3386427b3f9e88dbec200b85ff5590b772f37363234e25ab2334bcf?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6917904670
My btc addres 18DUVbqKeYwv5jGu7gojS7drYQeAts5dFs

Please confirm

I confirm
i will creat your account...